was listening to the essential mix today and it seemed like he's a huge chick corea fan
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 09:30 (twelve years ago) link
I like rustie, for whatever reason I'm not angry when I listen to whatever shit of his I've heard, think he's kind of boring to me in an overall musician way but still it's not the worst
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 09:32 (twelve years ago) link
Apparently he's been approached to work with Justin Bieber and Shakira. He wisely said no. I can't see how that would have worked.
― And I have been called "The Appetite" (DL), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 11:03 (twelve years ago) link
Hudson Mohawke appears to be making that move
― Number None, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 11:06 (twelve years ago) link
hahahaha this is like the most predictable thing ever. can't wait for the bela fleck collabo.
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 11:08 (twelve years ago) link
people say a lot of ott things about how much is going on in rustie tracks
to me rustie basically sounds like hip hop jacking IDM of yore, except updated to reflect the cadences of 00s rap tunes and ukg / grime and really creative / cheesy / goofy synth textures
― the late great, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 14:22 (twelve years ago) link
i definitely agree with that. although i think those write-ups are mostly trying to call attention to his aesthetic/attitude, i.e. going big rather than creating an atmosphere.
― 40oz of tears (Jordan), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 14:34 (twelve years ago) link
yeah his music is kinda loud, those gloopy shiny synths really "fill up" the, uh, psychoacoustic space or whatever you want to call it.
i'm kinda referring to things like that quote from the pfork EM review where the writer says something like "five simultaneous melodies going on at once" ... uh, no. there's not five melodies going on at once, there's usually one melody with lots of pitchbending and fx (not much more intricate than a typical modern acid house track) and one bassline and some random embellishments (definitely not intricate compared to the DSP fuckery in most idm tracks)
― the late great, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 16:09 (twelve years ago) link
don't get me wrong i LOVE rustie and hudson mohawke it's just i think the praise they get is kinda ill-informed and misses what's great about them
fwiw i also think hudson mohawke's production and drum programming is much more "intricate" although definitely not "better" because of it
― the late great, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 16:10 (twelve years ago) link
apparently he's been approached to work with Justin Bieber and Shakira. He wisely said no. I can't see how that would have worked.
― And I have been called "The Appetite" (DL), Tuesday, April 24, 2012 7:03 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark
i don't see why someone wouldn't just try this. the worst that happens is that nothing good comes of it and that's that.
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 24 April 2012 16:27 (twelve years ago) link
he's holding out for lil wayne
― the late great, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 16:31 (twelve years ago) link
fwiw i also think hudson mohawke's production and drum programming is much more "intricate" although definitely not "better" because of it.
totally. i agree that rustie's thing isn't about a ton of sounds and parts, it's about huge sounds so that he can base a track around ONE part that still sounds pretty overwhelming.
― 40oz of tears (Jordan), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 16:33 (twelve years ago) link
sorry for repeating myself but this is all I could think of when listening to the essential mix
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDkqu7GPd0o
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 17:01 (twelve years ago) link
yup
Warp Record guest Rustie delves into the diversity of his own tastes with a special selection including: Boards of Canada, Allan Holdsworth, Yes, Return to Forever & Weather Report.
― 40oz of tears (Jordan), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 17:05 (twelve years ago) link
he should've totally taken bieber and shakira up ffs
― liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 17:06 (twelve years ago) link
i mean you can totally imagine shakira doing a vocal along the lines of nightwave's on "surph" and fleshing the song out a bit
please apologize for linking to a site w/ a picture of rustie
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 17:07 (twelve years ago) link
This was originally meant to go to Rihannahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrsaB0Uune8
― Number None, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 17:09 (twelve years ago) link
ha xp
return to forever is totally in these days, just look at that thundercat record.
― 40oz of tears (Jordan), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 17:18 (twelve years ago) link
wtf r u talking abt when was RTF ever not cool?
― the late great, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 17:22 (twelve years ago) link
rustie looks like he could be on wdyll
allan holdsworth is a pretty deep pick
― the late great, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 17:24 (twelve years ago) link
"nice keebaab?""it....it was a burrito actually"
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 17:27 (twelve years ago) link
ha i was obsessed with that stuff when i was a teenager, but you have to admit that they have the worst rep out of all the big fusion bands (for the usual jazz crimes - cheesy/overblown/soulless etc.).
― 40oz of tears (Jordan), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 17:27 (twelve years ago) link
i think this is my actual biggest problem with the record. most of the synth sounds he uses are just loud and shrill to me and drive me nuts
― hologram ned raggett (The Reverend), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 08:29 (twelve years ago) link
rustie is shrill
but he is also shrewd, and chill
― Ms Tum-Bla-Wi-Tee (nakhchivan), Tuesday, 1 May 2012 10:08 (twelve years ago) link
are people still into http://gigi.nullneuron.net/ultima/u6/items/glassswd.gif glass swords http://gigi.nullneuron.net/ultima/u6/items/glassswd.gif ?
― the late great, Thursday, 2 May 2013 18:40 (eleven years ago) link
Funny you should mention this. I was just listening to this today. I love this album (been listening to it since it came out, as well).
― c21m50nh3x460n, Friday, 3 May 2013 01:10 (eleven years ago) link
the best album of 2011 for me
"slasherr" from this year is decent as well
― monotony, Friday, 3 May 2013 03:04 (eleven years ago) link
yeah liked this record a lot, didn't even notice it was much taken notice of on ILM
― huun huurt 2 (Hurting 2), Friday, 3 May 2013 03:11 (eleven years ago) link
My favorite 2011 album that I didn't hear until 2012.
― jaymc, Friday, 3 May 2013 03:17 (eleven years ago) link
I kind of hear what Matt DC is saying about it not really being dance music - not that you 'can't' dance to it, but a lot of the songs never get going quite enough or sustain a beat long enough. I could see it lending itself really well to dance remixes/edits that wouldn't have to do a whole lot.
― huun huurt 2 (Hurting 2), Friday, 3 May 2013 04:14 (eleven years ago) link
sure it's still awesome
― i wouldn't mistake myself for anyone. (wolves lacan), Friday, 3 May 2013 16:09 (eleven years ago) link
that's part of what I like about it, all that tension that never quite releases
― huun huurt 2 (Hurting 2), Friday, 3 May 2013 16:14 (eleven years ago) link
dance prog. imo it's really more an update on instrumental funk from the 70s, that was as much an exercise in jamming, in a musicianly way, as it was "dance music".
― Dominique, Friday, 3 May 2013 16:57 (eleven years ago) link
really? it's got some fusion signifiers, but to my ears the forms/structures are very exacting and dance-based (and the most fun moments are when he's playing with listener expectations on the builds/drops).
― shit tie (Jordan), Friday, 3 May 2013 17:25 (eleven years ago) link
something that confused me about rustie was that he got so much more popular / acclaimed than hudson mohawke. their approaches, qualities and strengths seem very similar to me.
― the late great, Friday, 3 May 2013 17:30 (eleven years ago) link
i guess that's not true post-tnght but i always felt "butter" got a bad rap
I don't really mean it sounds like fusion, just that it reminds of what a lot of instrumental and fusion bands were doing in the 70s, making records of essentially "dance" music, but that were never really the same kind of dance music as, say, giorgio moroder or chic. Even tho really, if you listen to it, formwise, it's not arguably a different thing. See also a lot of instrumental hip-hop, post-dubstep stuff like zomby, or even squarepusher (who really does play the fusion card).
hudson mohawke seems to actively court dance/hip-hop appeal tho. Like, he makes tracks, and with tnght, that sound like their primary purpose is to woo a rapper to use them for production, and to make festival crowds jump up and down. Whereas rustie to my ears sounds too "impressive" in a muso way. It sounds amazing when I hear it at home, but maybe too busy in too short a time to work as "dance" music, as was suggested upthread. A fine line tho!
― Dominique, Friday, 3 May 2013 18:31 (eleven years ago) link
just listened to "glass swords" b2b w/ soul jazz's "deutsche elektronische musik" comp which is largely just prog as opposed to electronic music and it was a very smooth transition
there are moments of the rustie album that are straight-up prog imo
― the late great, Friday, 3 May 2013 18:36 (eleven years ago) link
New Rustie track, dang. My vote for most interesting/exciting producer working today, as far as post-dubstep and trap goes. Can't wait for new record.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b046ddlv
― Dominique, Saturday, 21 June 2014 20:06 (ten years ago) link
"Most exciting trap producer" = damned by faint praise!
― the late great, Saturday, 21 June 2014 20:11 (ten years ago) link
sort of, but most trap doesn't sound like Rustie/only wishes it sounded like Rustie.
― Dominique, Saturday, 21 June 2014 20:44 (ten years ago) link
I still don't think he ever topped the Jagz The Smack EP
― boxedjoy, Saturday, 21 June 2014 21:59 (ten years ago) link
LOLLLL u so crazy
― the late great, Saturday, 21 June 2014 22:35 (ten years ago) link
actually if i can interject some challops of my own i think zig zag is still his best track
― the late great, Saturday, 21 June 2014 22:37 (ten years ago) link
NEW SHIT
― the late great, Thursday, 21 August 2014 03:46 (ten years ago) link
Streamed this yesterday and it's nowhere near as buoyant or thrilling as Glass Swords, which is maybe my album of the decade so far.
― uxorious gazumping (monotony), Thursday, 21 August 2014 03:55 (ten years ago) link
not sure how i feel about the album as a whole, but the d double e and danny brown 1-2 punch in the middle is undeniable
― the late great, Thursday, 21 August 2014 03:57 (ten years ago) link
i'll have to give it some time but i hear what you're saying, first impression it's definitely not as good as glass swords, not sure what's missing
― the late great, Thursday, 21 August 2014 03:58 (ten years ago) link
I was confused as to why the vocalist on "Dream On" wasn't credited when all the others were. If the woman singing turns out to be Kelli-Leigh I would actually die.
― uxorious gazumping (monotony), Thursday, 21 August 2014 04:00 (ten years ago) link