Rolling 2006 US Charts Thread

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Rodney, having a big hit isn't much of a hit for such a massive popstar.

deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 29 June 2006 21:48 (eighteen years ago) link

also forgot mr. west (how could we?) -
slow jamz #1
through the wire #15
all falls down #7
jesus walks #11.

but the last group before PCD to accomplish 4 top 20 hits from their debut album was
HOOTIE AND THE BLOWFISH!
hold my hand #10
let her cry #9
only wanna be with you #6
time #14

maroon 5 did give them a good run for the money.

danzig (danzig), Thursday, 29 June 2006 21:50 (eighteen years ago) link

how'd we forget hootie!

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 29 June 2006 21:52 (eighteen years ago) link

Dero to thread.

deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 29 June 2006 21:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Haha, funny one. Meh.

It's Rodney, poised and rational! (R. J. Greene), Friday, 30 June 2006 03:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Two weeks for the Nellster, as challengers begin to circle - Gnarls are now #3, Cassie's #4... it'd be an awesome top 5 if Yung Joc and 'Hips Don't Lie' weren't rubbish, eh? 'Ain't No Other Man' is now #6, 'Snap Yo Fingers' fills in the number 9 slot ('Ms New Booty' is away), and Field Mob make their top 10 debut at #10.

Below that... Kath McPhee's take on 'Somewhere Over The Rainbow' (in this day and age? Good grief) debuts at #12, along with a sudden sense of dread that I'm going to have to put it in the Jukebox. Urgh. On a similar note - 'Shoulder Lean' is #31. Uck. Jessica Simpson's 'A Public Affair' debuts on the 100 at 39, and 'Sexy Love' is Ne-Yo's third hit this year at #50.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 6 July 2006 14:27 (seventeen years ago) link

India Arie @ #1 on albums

deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 6 July 2006 14:32 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah that india arie #1 surprised me at first - i had no idea her fanbase was that large really (she gets INSANE press in atlanta, so i can never gauge how well she's actually doing or if it's just sonia murray).

glancing at the chart - did 'why you wanna' really peak at 29? dixie chicks still hanging in there which surprises me a bit actually. pearl jam not haning in there - no surprise. interesting debut @ 34 on the albums chart.

yung joc + shakira >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gnarls barkley + nelly flirtado btw

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 6 July 2006 15:28 (seventeen years ago) link

yeah India Arie was performing yesterday in grant park and it was packed with people.

deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 6 July 2006 15:43 (seventeen years ago) link

i swear to god the first few times i heard that cherish single i thought it was a heavily heavily reworked 'oh' remix.

that reminds me - anyone know the name of that incredibly dramatic older 'wise' (role written for ron isley but isn't ron isley) male + younger cute aaliyah entrant female pro-abstinence r&b song? or the name of that eeny meany miny mo synth-kazoo hip-hop song?

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 6 July 2006 15:57 (seventeen years ago) link

I like that Cherish song, but probably because it sounds EXACTLY like Ciara's "Oh."
-- jaymc (jmcunnin...), June 1st, 2006 10:31 AM. (jaymc) (link)

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 6 July 2006 16:03 (seventeen years ago) link

BTW, blount, what's so surprising about the #34 album? That it's not higher? Or that it's so high? Promotion on it's been seemingly nonexistent, which is odd considering it's Hector "El Bambino" + Jay-Z (kinda).

Thomas Inskeep (submeat), Thursday, 6 July 2006 16:08 (seventeen years ago) link

I've done my best to search the Billboard site for this information, and I can't find it: What's the difference between a "digital track" and a "digital song"? The lists are nearly identical: Paris Hilton is at 10 as a track and at 13 as a song, both of which are higher than her showing on the main chart. Celebs tend to do better on download than on airplay, though I certainly think most of 'em these days deserve the airplay, incl. Paris; she's not quite made top 20 on the Mediabase mainstream and CHR/Pop airplay charts.

Ashlee's "Invisible" is invisible compared to Jessica's "A Public Affair" ("Invisible" is in the 50s on Mediabase's mainstream airplay chart and somewhere below 50 on the Billboard main chart); deservedly so, as "Invisible" is the first song Ashlee's released (at least in the U.S.) that she didn't write, and she's got 25 or so songs that are better, including several of the album rejects. Whereas "A Public Affair" is a really nice Madonna "Holiday" evocation. Hope it keeps rising.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 6 July 2006 18:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Hot Digital Tracks counts different versions of a song seperately, whereas Hot Digital Songs counts all versions of a song as one.

It's Rodney, chocolate-covered, freaky, and habit-forming! (R. J. Greene), Thursday, 6 July 2006 21:33 (seventeen years ago) link

I imagine that probably comes into play most with original vs. clean/radio edits, right?

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 6 July 2006 21:35 (seventeen years ago) link

Exactly, jaymc, though it's also for album versions vs. radio edits. Remixes, too.

Thomas Inskeep (submeat), Thursday, 6 July 2006 21:48 (seventeen years ago) link

"Promiscuous" hangs on for another week at #1. Not much action on the rest of the chart, though. Gnarls Barkley and Cassie both inch up one, as Shakira falls to #4. Otherwise, eh.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 13 July 2006 19:33 (seventeen years ago) link

The most noteworthy thing about this week's charts appears to be that the top 16 on the modern rock charts are the exact same as they were last week.

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Thursday, 13 July 2006 20:27 (seventeen years ago) link

is 'promiscuous' the most overrated 'no seriously i like pop music sometimes' hit since 'since u been gone'?

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 13 July 2006 20:40 (seventeen years ago) link

It's especially fucked considering "Promiscuous" was chosen as the single in America because the label decided "Maneater" was far too "pop" to break the US charts.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 13 July 2006 20:45 (seventeen years ago) link

Anyone who claims to like the song's motives must be suspect! All those people getting it to number one on the charts are obviously just pretending to like it for pop cred.

It's Rodney, currently unemployed! (R. J. Greene), Thursday, 13 July 2006 21:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Completely unchanged top 6 - PCD climb to 7, The Fray hold #10 after 23 weeks on the 100. New Lifehouse?

Bundle of minor climbers from 13 to 17, with Pants!, Cherish, Portrait Of the Artist As A Young Dro, Sean-eh and Kelis all inching towards the top 10. Rather more substantial climbs propel E-40 and Ne-Yo to 22 and 24 respectively, with John Cocking Mayer a new entry at #25. Erupting into the 50 - Chingy ft. Tyrese (#44) and The Wreckers (#48). NOW 22 is Bonnie Prince Album.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 20 July 2006 09:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Diana Reyes's album debuts at #4 on the Latin albums, #2 on Heatseekers! This is gonna be her year! She's really good.

In other news, Ronnie Milsap's album is way the hell down the Country albums, like in the 40s. Can they not release a single? I vote for "It's All Coming Back To Me Now" or "Time Keeps Ticking Away" or whatever that one's called.

dr. phil (josh langhoff), Thursday, 20 July 2006 14:18 (seventeen years ago) link

does the "Scotty Doesn't Know" that debuted at #80-something this week have anything to do with the song from Eurotrip? Seems like too strange a title for it to be a coincidence, but if so, why'd it take four years to break into the charts?

The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Thursday, 20 July 2006 17:26 (seventeen years ago) link

kinda surprised that milsap is so low, i've seen it like crazy on cmt (whichever one that's vaugely margaritaville and there's all these hot chix dancing around ronnie). eurotrip's been on cable for awhile too so i don't know why 'scotty doesn't know' popped up - just now available on itunes (this seems unlikely), concerted net effort by whoever the hell did 'scotty doesn't know's fanbase (cf. mr. yorke)?

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 20 July 2006 19:05 (seventeen years ago) link

it looks like the version on the charts is by the same band who did it on the Eurotrip soundtrack, Lustra, who just put out a new album with the song on it this year.

Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Thursday, 20 July 2006 19:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh yeah, "Local Girls" (Milsap), I forgot about that one, assuming that's it. That's a good one too. More CMT for me! Why, if CMT's lineup is better overall than any commercial country station, is the CMT Top 20 usually 75% ballads and sucky?

dr. phil (josh langhoff), Thursday, 20 July 2006 23:02 (seventeen years ago) link

(Not much) trouble at the top - Nel & Tim continue to lord it over Dangerlo and Cassie. 'Buttonz' climbs to 4 from 7, worryingly.

Pants! can practically taste the top 10 as they climb to 11, accompanied by slight upward edgings from Cherish (13) and Kelis (16). 'U And Dat' and 'Sexy Love' make their top 20 bows at 18 and 19 respectively. Reasonable climbs for John Cobblers Mayercamp (21), Bromsgrove Hilton (29), Simpson The Elder (30), Chingy (37) and The Wreckers (43).

NEU INS FUNFZIG: 'Janet' & 'Nelly' climb to 25 from 63. Ashlee Gon' Knock You Ahhht makes its debut on the Hot 100 at 28. Yung Joc's Difficult Second Single climbs to 42 from 66, and Rascal Flatts' 'Me & My Gang' gives them three singles in the top 50 at #50.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 27 July 2006 13:39 (seventeen years ago) link

Unchanged top 3, sixth week for Nelly Nell. Cassie's third week at #3 is commemorated by Billboard giving her a little picture next to her name, which is very nice of them. The big news comes right behind her though, as massive leaps for Beyonce (32 to 4) and Fergie (84 to 5 - second highest in chart history sez M. Fred de Fred) propel them into chart-topping contention.

Jessica Simpson makes large gains, as 'A Public Affair' climbs from 30 to 14. Pants! might have peaked just outside the top ten, slipping from 11 to 15.

Significant climbers outside the 20 - Ashlee's "I Think That Jessica And Me Are Both The Greatest, In Our Own Kind Of Ways" (#21), Chingy & Tyrese's "The Most Acceptable Compromise Of Both Worlds" (#26), Yung Joc (#30) and Roddernee Atkins (#36). New in the #50: Nickelback (#43), FUCKING SNOW PATROL (#47), Steve Holy (#49) and sodding Blue October (#50).

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Sunday, 6 August 2006 19:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Ronnie Milsap's album is way the hell down the Country albums, like in the 40s. Can they not release a single? I vote for "It's All Coming Back To Me Now" or "Time Keeps Ticking Away" or whatever that one's called.

I vote for "Something Dry," easily one of the best country tracks of the year.

xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 6 August 2006 19:52 (seventeen years ago) link

...even if it's actually called "SomeWHERE Dry" (duh)

xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 6 August 2006 19:54 (seventeen years ago) link

That Yung Joc is frighteningly unlistenable. Does Gnarls still have a shot at #1 or are they going to be leaped over by Beyonce and/or Fergie Ferg? I fear their momentum may be shot.

Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Monday, 7 August 2006 20:16 (seventeen years ago) link

i'm wondering if at this point it wouldn't've hit #1 under the old formula! shit definitely feels nearly 'hey ya' pervasive though locale might be a factor there.

j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 7 August 2006 21:10 (seventeen years ago) link

No, it only would have reached #10. (That's as high as it got on the airplay chart and sales of physical copies have a negligable impact.)

It's Rodney, assume the position! (R. J. Greene), Monday, 7 August 2006 23:02 (seventeen years ago) link

Fergie, Gnarls, Nelly, Cassie, PCD. I can't complain.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 10 August 2006 20:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Ashlee obsessive's report: Jessica slipping a little, Ashlee slipping a lot, neither a surprise: Jessica's single is wonderful but not of the current style, Ashlee's is her sixth-best of her six singles and she didn't write it. Thing is, Jessica and Ashlee are both high on the downloads chart - that's where celebs score big - Jessica 7th after being 6th last week, and Ashlee 19th after being 7th last week. But where it gets interesting is in radio play: Jessica is in 19th place on Mediabase's Mainstream Top 40 chart with a respectable 3,134 plays over the last 7 days. Ashlee is down at #104 with a puny 64 plays. That's equivalent to a mere nine stations in the country playing her once a day. Or three top 40 stations giving her three plays a day. In the entire country. Radio Disney is giving her approximately three plays a day (23 plays in the last week, which adds up to 1,173 combining the 51 affiliates). But basically, outside her relatively weak showing on Disney, she gets no radio play. Her power base, if she has one, is TRL. Anyway, it's rare for there to be such a discrepancy between sales and airplay. Maybe Cowboy Troy and Shooter Jennings had it over on country, airplay running way behind sales. I don't think Ashlee's radio play ever recovered from SNL. "L.O.V.E." never made the Billboard Top 20 but did hang around for something like seven months, thanks to TRL and downloads. Of course, "L.O.V.E." is way better than "Invisible." But "Invisible" is catchy enough, for a pop-rock single.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 10 August 2006 21:52 (seventeen years ago) link

The Pack "Vans" is 51 on Mainstream Top 40 with 468 plays, 25 on CHR Rhythmic w/ 1,809 plays. This is weak for what I consider the great silly rap track of the year. What's also weak is that I couldn't get anyone at Poptimists to comment on the video.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 11 August 2006 03:30 (seventeen years ago) link

OK, to be ridiculously obsessively completist, Jessica's "Public Affair" is getting a paltry 300 plays on adult contemporary (51st place), and Ashlee's "Invisible" is getting a barely audible 24 (compare to "Pieces of Me" which is getting 218 on adult contemporary).

One of my favorite performers, Various Artists, is atop the album chart. Flyleaf has climbed back up to 67th, probably on the strength of opening for Korn on the Family Values tour. This is an album that's been selling 10 to 12 thousand copies a week for about six months with no let up, will probably keep its pace long enough to go gold.

I feel rather alone on this thread. Where's bloody Swygart? (Oh, I forgot, I still owe him an email.)

By the way, a question I have for you all. Why did Cascada's "Everytime We Touch" hit? I like the song fine, but there are plenty of others like it that hit in Europe and Asia and Canada and Mexico but never do anything in the U.S., so why did this one get airplay? Was there a movie or ad tie-in?

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Saturday, 12 August 2006 06:06 (seventeen years ago) link

Ah dude, I never knew you cared...

Anyway, yes, as stated upthread Ferg y Ferg tops the chart after a mere three weeks on. There's top 10 debuts for Sean Paul ft. Keyshia Cole (#7) and - yes! - P!ATD!, who finally make it to #10 after 23 weeks. Fuck all really happens in the rest of the top 20, 'Sexy Love''s climb to #14 being the only major ascent of note. Other large climbs include Nickelback (43 to 29), The Wreckers (42 to 34), Snow Patrol (35 to 47), and, er, 'SOS', which is back up from 48 to 36. Two songs debut inside the 50 - Five For Fighting's 'The Riddle' climbs from 86 to 40 in its third week on, and is fucking horrible. Breaking Benjamin's 'The Diary Of Jane' is up from 55 to 50, and isn't really that much better.

I'm pretty sure 'Knights Of Cydonia' being top 20 in Modern Rock is still the thing that makes me happiest in the US charts.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Saturday, 12 August 2006 14:11 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm pretty sure 'Knights Of Cydonia' being top 20 in Modern Rock is still the thing that makes me happiest in the US charts.

I don't get why they're not playing "Supermassive Black Hole." "Knights" is a very strange choice for a single. And it's kind of annoying.

billstevejim (billstevejim), Saturday, 12 August 2006 14:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes it's a shame that the brilliant "Supermassive Black Hole" isn't being played in the USA - I guess they think that the US doesn't 'get' pop - the same way "Maneater" is shafted for "Promiscuous."

danzig (danzig), Saturday, 12 August 2006 15:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey Frank, can you post the link(s) that you're getting your sales and spins info from? It's totally interesting, but I can't keep up...

xhuxk (xheddy), Saturday, 12 August 2006 16:22 (seventeen years ago) link

http://w2.mediabase.com/mmrweb/AllAccess/Charts.asp (If you put "site:" and this URL into Google and then a song or performer name you'll get all sorts of goodies.)

Now, here are specific charts (there are probably more if I can find out how to get 'em; I'm not sure Mediabase intends these full charts for the general public, since from their basic site they only link you to charts that list the highest 40 tracks):

country<

country w/ recurrents

mainstream top 40

mainstream top 40 w/ recurrents

Christian AC

Christian AC w/ recurrents

mainstream urban

mainstream urban w/ recurrents

alternative

alternative w/ recurrents

AC overall

AC overall w/ recurrents

CHR/pop(I think that this and the mainstream top 40 lists are now identical)

CHR/pop w/ recurrents(ditto)

CHR Rhythmic

CHR Rhythmic w/ recurrents

active rock

active rock w/ recurrents

Limitations of these numbers: Obviously, they only take into account stations that report to Mediabase, and they don't take into account size of listenership or what time of day a song is played.

The basic Mediabase URL is http://w2.mediabase.com/mmrweb/AllAccess.

For KDIS in Los Angeles, click on "7-Day Reports," click on "Station Playlists," tick "Station" rather than "Market," then type in "KDIS" and hit "Go," then click on "7-Day Playlist" on the right. Radio Disney has 51 affiliates, I think, so multiply each song's number by 51 to get national plays.

If you want to know whois playing a song, find it on some list and then click on the song. For instance, if you go to the "Rhythmic" list you see that the Pack's "Vans" is 25th with 1775 plays. If you click on "Vans," you get a list of the 20 stations in the genre ("Rhythmic") that are playing it the most. (Tops is WNHT-FM in Fort Wayne, with an incredible 121 plays. That's once every one-and-a-half hours.) Note that this won't list the stations in other formats (e.g., "Mainstream Urban" and "Mainstream Top 40") that are also playing it. If you go to the Mainstream Top 40 chart you'll see that "Vans" is 52nd with with 470 plays (up from 368 the week earlier). Also, for a song that's neither a "format leader" nor a "format starter" ("Vans" got played this week in Oklahoma City, Denver, San Antonio, and Seattle for the first time), you're out of luck unless you accidentally stumble on the station. Ebony Eyez "In Ya Face" got 5 plays on Mainstream Top 40 last week, but I can't get any info as to where.

(Checking further for Ashlee, I see that "Invisible" got the bulk of its airplay - 47 of its 63 plays - from two Wisconsin stations, one in Madison and one in Green Bay.)

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Saturday, 12 August 2006 17:54 (seventeen years ago) link

For the Flyleaf sales numbers, I extrapolated from an ad that Girlie Action forwarded saying that Flyleaf's Soundscan numbers for this week were 12,889; last week they were 10,788. (I find it irritating that Billboard doesn't list sales numbers for the charts that are strictly sales-based, though maybe Soundscan doesn't permit it.)

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Saturday, 12 August 2006 18:08 (seventeen years ago) link

(For Ashlee I mean the bulk of her play not counting Radio Disney.)

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Saturday, 12 August 2006 19:35 (seventeen years ago) link

thanks, frank, very helpful. though your If you put "site:" and this URL into Google and then a song or performer name you'll get all sorts of goodies doesn't seem to work unless I leave out the word "site," and your If you want to know who is playing a song, find it on some list and then click on the song doesn't seem to work; it just takes me back to the home page, for some reason. So I still have no idea which country station played Sammy Hagar's cover of "I Love This Bar," and which one played Trent Willmon's bondage-and-wifeswapping track "Surprise." Maybe I'll fiddle with it more...

xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 13 August 2006 02:01 (seventeen years ago) link

Oops, you actually explained that second predicament already I guess
(for a song that's neither a "format leader" nor a "format starter" you're out of luck unless you accidentally stumble on the station.) (I kept getting "no format leaders detected.")

xhuxk (xheddy), Sunday, 13 August 2006 02:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Xhuxk, did you remember the colon in "site;"? Do it like this:

site:http://w2.mediabase.com/mmrweb/AllAccess/Charts.asp "Kenny Chesney"

For some reason the results will get you some charts but not others (gives me a link to Mainstream Top 40 when I search for Kenny Chesney, but not Country).

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 16 August 2006 04:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Yay completely unchanged top 5. Sean-eh up from 7 to 6, P!ATD from 10 to 7, Ne-Yo from 14-9, and Young Dro from 12 to 10. Other sizeable climbers in the top 20 include E-40 (#13), Cherish (#14), and Chingy (#20).

Outside ae that, the most terrifyinggg advance is probably that of Nickelback, who go from 19 to 23 in their fourth week on. New in the 50: Ciara (#21 from #80), The Killers (new at #29), Brookeamania ft. Pauw Waww (#33 from #52), Justin Timberlake (#35 from #52 in its sixth week - you get the feeling this might be underperforming just a bit?), Jibbs (#39 from #69), and Hinder (#49 from #61).

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 17 August 2006 09:21 (seventeen years ago) link

As I point out here, teenpoppers Cheyenne Kimball and JoJo are getting more airplay on mainstream top 40 than on Radio Disney, whereas some big Radio Disney acts like Hannah Montana and High School Musical aren't getting any mainstream radio play. Of course there are mainstream acts who get embraced by Radio Disney, Tash Bedingfield and Rihanna, for instance.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 17 August 2006 18:46 (seventeen years ago) link


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