(THIS) POLL REVERE(S) — ILM Artist Poll #19 — Beastie Boys VOTING THREAD

She's Crafty is a favorite - I didn't end up voting for it, which makes me mad at myself

This line forever: the cadence of it is just so great

Nooooooooooow I like nothin better than a pretty girl's smile
And I haven't seen a smile that pretty in a while

I pretty clearly remember when people started using the term Gen X but was too young to really get it or consider myself part of that group. On the other hand I think I was a little too old to be considered Gen Y. Meh.

They're pretty useless categories imo though so it doesn't really matter.

Yeah but we'll never know how you really feel about the Beastie Boys unless you align yourself with one of these arbitrary categories.

head over to the generation thread on ILE for lengthy dissertations on this

I put She's Crafty at #11 on my ballot

I was born in 1988.

I read Generation X. It wasn't much cop.

I'd vote LTI over Hello Nasty.

The only thing I got from that Coupland book was that he's way more hung up on nuclear war than I ever was. Which made me feel much much better.

when i was in 4th grade i had an hour plus bus ride to a school in a different neighborhood. one of my friends had an older brother with a LTI cassette and he wrote down all the words to paul revere, which we worked hard on memorizing. eventually he gave us a dubbed copy of LTI. took it home, put it on the stereo, and promptly got a beating from my dad. :-(

:(

i def remember being puzzled by this line: "the sheriff's after me for what I did to his daughter"

I did it like this, I did it like that, I did it with a wiffle ball bat...sooooooo

I'm on the run the cops got my gun

Roses are red the sky is blue
I got my barrel at your neck so what the fuck you gonna do
It's just two wheels and me the wind in my eyes
The engine is the music and my nine's by my side

^^ think he was having a flashback to paul revere here

I think I got into gen x culture after the fact, but adopted it as my own. I think if you came of age/got into pop culture after Kurt died you technically count as Y. I got into Nirvana the day he died, so...

Oh, that's actually a really good line of demarcation.

yeah, i think so too. kurt being the apotheosis/pieta of gen x culture.

as time has passed my favorite songs on LTI are the stripped-down, beat-and-a-rhyme stuff: hold it now hit it, posse in effect, the new style, paul revere. my least favorite songs on the album have always been fight for yr right and no sleep til.

rhymin and stealin is one of my all-time favorite album openers. it just hits like a ton of bricks

also: "pistol is loaded i shot betty crocker, deliver colonel sanders down to davy jones locker" = all-time

as time has passed my favorite songs on LTI are the stripped-down, beat-and-a-rhyme stuff... my least favorite songs on the album have always been fight for yr right and no sleep til.

it's all great. kerry king's guitar on "no sleep" is all-time. slayer!

also ppl complaining about the rapping on hello nasty are nuts, or maybe just don't appreciate the intricacy of their delivery. sure, it's old school licensed to ill style, but with all the bolts tightened and a deftness to match the rubbery shapeshifting tracks. tune in to 1:30 on "the move", where they round-robin the syllables of "insane mind games move quick like flame". is it because they make it sound so effortless that ppl dismiss it as facile? I dunno, maybe try getting 3 of yr buddies together to see which vocal routine you can work out first, "the move" or "professor booty".

and speaking of "the move", it's like a masterclass in sampling, there are dozens of perfectly interlocking rhythmic bits stitched together over its runtime. the more you pay attention to what's going on in that track, the more rewarding it is, but it also doesn't feel dense and overly engineered, there's a fluidity that allows you to forget all that and just be like aw cool bumping party track.

ps dogs love me cuz I'm crazy sniffable

and this, which is my favorite sequence on that song

I bet you never knew I got the ill peripheral
In your home I'm cloned I'm on your headphones
I love it when you spazz out all alone

"The Move" is all time.

Currently listening to LTI, might pick two from here in the end. But goddam this album is shrill.

It isn't quite LTI style. It's a lot tighter. Less flamboyant, maybe. But from listening to those five albums over the last week, I think the quality of the lyrics is on par with the other albums.

yeah that last line is such a great example of a musician capturing and reflecting a listener's personal relationship to music, but it's so casual and tossed off, xp to VG

I remember exactly where I was the first time I heard the harpsichord break in "the move"

am now realizing I left "the move" off my ballot

:(

I love it when you spazz out all alone

― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, May 10, 2012 10:47 AM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah that last line is such a great example of a musician capturing and reflecting a listener's personal relationship to music, but it's so casual and tossed off...

― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Thursday, May 10, 2012 10:54 AM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is also, perhaps only cuz i'm forcing the point, a good concrete example of the change in attitude mentioned upthread. nasty shifts the implied relationship between artist and audience from from bro-cru group solidarity (on CYH and illco) to a one-on-one dynamic that's at once personal and universal. they're talking to a "you" that includes everyone, not so much the gang of us.

didn't remember "The Move" at all. just listened to it - it's okay. after the first verse they do get into some more entertaining rhyme schemes but the track on the whole doesn't blow me away or anything

Edward III otm. I love the engineering and mixing on Hello Nasty.

tell me how does it feel to be dead inside

xp

awesome

Considered voting for "The Move" but didn't ultimately have room for more than two Hello Nasty tracks. Kinda wish I had put Hello Nasty at #2 on my albums ballot - it's certainly my favorite to listen to after Paul's Boutique, but Licensed to Ill is probably better song-for-song. I've never really loved LTI like I'm supposed to, though, which I think comes down to the thudding minimalism of the beats - it's brilliant and it results in a bunch of great tracks, but over the course of a full LP it gets wearying, for me and I suspect for a lot of people who came to rap in the 90s or later.

the fact that so many ppl on ILX live on that wide age 28 to age 35 grey zone/gulf between Gen X and Gen Y makes these conversations excruciating

I think they're kind of fun myself. Well, to a point.

you gonna do a ballot, whiney?

i hope does it during one of his cali funk-metal 4EVA moods

I hope Whiney does it, i mean

my god I just heard "Namaste" for the first time in years. It's proto-Tricky!

been listening to some paul's boutique demos. "full clout" is kind of amazing, an early version of "shake your rump" and apparently an indulgence of the dust bros' desire to strip their tracks down to make them suitable for rapping over. a big licensed to ill style beat dominates, it's like the missing link between the first and second album. and it's always weird to hear all the early alternate lyrics on something so ingrained. early "car thief" lyrics are hilar too, MCA: "my dick is a tree trunk"

the fact that so many ppl on ILX live on that wide age 28 to age 35 grey zone/gulf between Gen X and Gen Y makes these conversations excruciating

― thommys got bendz (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, May 10, 2012 2:23 PM (23 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

otm, ilx's affection for 'generation' talk lately needs to run its course ASAP

^^^cosign

degenerations

generational observations ought to be posted with a youtube link to a song that the rest of us can enjoy during the ritual chin-stroking

may I suggest

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRwhm-B6yNI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAIOzM7SsMo

How about this one?

blocked in my country, looks like I dodged a bullet there

I'd like to say I didn't enjoy watching that.

praise the gods

it wasn't morris minor and the majors, was it?

5 songs into TT5B and wow this is sucky.

'twas xp. I'm sorry.