HIPSTER (the pit of vipers)

kraftwerk were a bad band with a lame gimmick. mostly.
satie is hollow drivel.
sun ra made more bad records than good ones.

actually i'm not sure i believe that last one. most of the sun ra records i've heard are quite good.

the last one is the only one I completely agree with

he made a lot of mediocre records, idk about bad. he certainly made many more good records than kraftwerk did.

http://www.tutankhamunshop.co.uk/acatalog/ra-egyptian-sun-big.jpg

bring it, hipsters

http://www.tutankhamunshop.co.uk/acatalog/ra-egyptian-sun-big.jpg

Black Sabbath were just a bunch of stoners who discovered the fuzz pedal and the pentatonic scale and squeezed every last drop out of it.

Actually, not sure why that's a bad thing.

I could probably come up with a line for Lou Reed. I really, really dislike his solo stuff, including transformer.

hating on things is way more fun than talking about how much you like things, cuz when you like something you're just being earnest and there's nothing funny about saying "hey man, this is a great record!" it's much funnier to talk about things that you don't like.

like, i don't like the kinks outside of a few songs. they're no troggs, that's for sure.

the first time i heard gymnopedie was indeed at the end of my dinner w andre

I also do not like the kinks outside of their big hits. I find Village Green unlistenable.

Also, no good music has ever come from the continent of Africa -- all these afro-punk-funk-rock compilers are kidding themselves.*

*j/k

contrarianism /= hipsterism. the satie diss scans hipsterish because of the pretense of worldliness and expertise that it assumes in order to more effectively sneer at arrivistes who heard of satie through a movie or some such. the contemptuous sarcasm of "i hope they play gymnopédie no 1 at your funeral". it's an attack not on the music, but on a certain type of listener.

Chain and the Gang track is so great. love that whole album. Ian is funny!

contrarianism /= hipsterism. the satie diss scans hipsterish because of the pretense of worldliness and expertise

True, but he also writes 'I still claim he invented Muzak,' which reads like an attack on the music.

I didn't know about Chain and the Gang until now. Got inspired to revisit Make-Up and NOU as a result.

i think the attack on the music is where the hipsterism falls down, cuz that's a pretty tired thing to say about satie. ian is making a good go of it, but it still seems a bit challopy rather than the (illusion of) sincere takedown demanded.

so is "the pit of vipers" hipsters or ilx?

accusing someone of contrarianism = "instead of accepting your statement and arguing against it I'm just going to pretend you don't even believe it yourself which is pretty much just an asshole move that will make the argument last longer and get progressively more meaningless"

― some dude, Tuesday, 7 October 2008 18:15 (3 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

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