when i was 16 (and basically only listening to new wave and punk and hardcore - this was 1984) the thing that turned me on to the dead was the *what a long strange trip it's been* double album. and i still think this is an inspired collection if you want to turn someone on to the band. the great europe 72 stuff and good early stuff, etc. it does such a great job of showcasing all the dead's strengths as a band and completely omits the weaknesses.
Side one
Track four was recorded live in concert.
1. "New Minglewood Blues" (traditional, credited to McGannahan Skjellyfetti) – 2:34 2. "Cosmic Charlie" (Garcia, Hunter) – 5:30 3. "Truckin'" (Garcia, Hunter, Lesh, Weir) – 5:03 4. "Black Peter" (Garcia, Hunter) – 7:27 5. "Born Cross-Eyed" (The Grateful Dead) – 2:55
Side two
1. "Ripple" (Hunter, Garcia) – 4:10 2. "Doin' That Rag" (Garcia, Hunter) – 4:40 3. "Dark Star" (Garcia, Hunter) – 2:41 4. "High Time" (Garcia, Hunter) – 5:12 5. "New Speedway Boogie" (Garcia, Hunter) – 4:05
Side three
All songs on side three were recorded live in concert.
1. "St. Stephen" (Garcia, Lesh, Hunter) – 5:22 2. "Jack Straw" (Weir, Hunter) – 4:48 3. "Me and My Uncle" (Phillips) – 3:03 4. "Tennessee Jed" (Garcia, Hunter) – 7:11
Side four
All songs on side four were recorded live in concert.
1. "Cumberland Blues" (Garcia, Lesh, Hunter) – 5:41 2. "Playing in the Band" (Weir, Hart, Hunter) – 4:38 3. "Brown-Eyed Woman" (Garcia, Hunter) – 4:37 4. "Ramble On Rose" (Garcia, Hunter) – 6:01
― scott seward, Monday, 11 August 2008 19:29 (fifteen years ago) link
That is a great best of. I've got a whole bunch of Dead stuff but only just picked that one up. Someone here at ILM pointed out that it has the studio (single) version of "Darkstar" after I said I'd never heard it. It's great, too.
― Trip Maker, Monday, 11 August 2008 20:08 (fifteen years ago) link
Hadn't read this thread for a few days, and I figured I'd ask about that solo Garcia LP, and lo! behold! Recommendations aplenty!
Thank you ILM third eye!
― gnarly sceptre, Tuesday, 12 August 2008 09:39 (fifteen years ago) link
Also, I've been enjoying that Mickey Hart Rolling Thunder LP a bunch. Percussion-heavy (surprise) ethnic jams, with John Cipollina, Paul Kantner, Stephen Stills and a bunch of other dudes. Zakir Hussain plays 'rain'.
― gnarly sceptre, Tuesday, 12 August 2008 09:47 (fifteen years ago) link
Gnarly, if you dig Miles-era hippie fusion, might I suggest this:
http://vox2.cdn.amiestreet.com/band-picture/Jerry-Garcia-&-Howard-Wales_10231_page.jpg
― QuantumNoise, Tuesday, 12 August 2008 12:33 (fifteen years ago) link
Also for those who think the dudes in the Dead didn't get very weird, try this:
http://mutant-sounds.blogspot.com/2007/04/phil-lesh-ned-lagin-seastoneslpcd197519.html
That's some cool synth freakery from the mid 70s featuring keyboardist Ned Lagin and Phil Lesh.
There is also a tape floating about the Dead world that features Lagin, Garcia, Hart and Lesh doing some pretty out there synth stuff.
― QuantumNoise, Tuesday, 12 August 2008 12:37 (fifteen years ago) link
a lot of the 74 shows have a 'Seastones' interlude between sets, sometimes w/ all of the dead joining in on the jam - i think the only legit release of this stuff so far is on the dicks picks culled from the alexandra palace shows they played that year
pleased that ppl are finding that list i posted useful - it's not definitive, by any means (never been much of a fan of 'looks like rain', for example, but i remember mark richardson picking it as his favourite bob weir song, and it's def. another ACE track that the dead played a lot in concert - it's ALL of the dead on ACE, btw, whereas i think only Kreutzmann plays on the first Garcia solo rec)
― Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 12 August 2008 13:17 (fifteen years ago) link
Is that Mati Klarwein artwork on Hooteroll? I stumbled across a copy of that album the other week, actually, but didn't know anything about it.
― gnarly sceptre, Tuesday, 12 August 2008 13:41 (fifteen years ago) link
I just checked the credits. It is M.K., but he's credited as Abdul Mati.
― QuantumNoise, Tuesday, 12 August 2008 13:51 (fifteen years ago) link
if you've even considered going to any of these shows, you want to get on that
― loaded forbear (gabbneb), Wednesday, 29 April 2009 05:25 (fifteen years ago) link
tonight's setlist:
I: U.S. Blues, Scarlet Begonias > Fire on the Mountain*, Bird Song*, Feel Like a Stranger*, High Time, Turn On Your Lovelight*II: New Potato Caboose > Estimated Prophet* > Milestones* > Drums > Space > Dear Mr. Fantasy* > Dark Star* > Eyes of the World*E: Franklin's Tower*-with Branford Marsalis (Saxophone); "Dark Star" was 2nd verse on
― loaded forbear (gabbneb), Wednesday, 29 April 2009 05:27 (fifteen years ago) link
well, the setlist certainly looks amazing, BUT ... 3 hours of Bob singing those songs ... ? ( i'm not even overly concerned about the Warren Haynes quotient ... I assume he's "OK" in the role; but, is Bob on all those vox ? heaven forfend )
― Stormy Davis, Wednesday, 29 April 2009 08:06 (fifteen years ago) link
"Dear Mr. Fantasy* > Dark Star* > Eyes of the World"
Awesome.
And the set list overall is great.
― Bill Magill, Wednesday, 29 April 2009 13:03 (fifteen years ago) link
It's so hard for me to imagine these songs without Jerry. I'm sure it'd be lots of fun, but, uh, "Scarlett->Fire" and "Frankin's Tower"?
― Mark, Wednesday, 29 April 2009 13:23 (fifteen years ago) link
I love that setlist, but I could seriously die happy if I never had to hear a "Scarlet->Fire" again in my life.
― homage is parody gone sour (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 29 April 2009 13:29 (fifteen years ago) link
Funny article
http://www.slate.com/id/2217149/
― Bill Magill, Wednesday, 29 April 2009 13:41 (fifteen years ago) link
"Dark Star" was 2nd verse on
onLY
as against expectation, Bob actually sounded *great*. sure, there was a bit of his Dylanesque choose-any-note-and-tempo-here vocals, and some slow/flubbed lines, but the dude was full of voice, especially on stuff he owns like Stranger and Estimated, mostly eschewing the depressive Ratdog style (their keyb player is a not-bad fill-in, btw). it helped that vocals were traded around throughout the show, including within songs. Warren was, yes, "OK" in the role (perhaps more than ok by the 2nd set), lending a bit of an Allmanesque tone and rushing some vox here and there, and of course it's not the same animal without Jerry, but for a lot of the show what you did get was a lot more than good enough. and yeah that setlist (which may not be that far below par for this run) - people were wondering what's left for Branford (whose soloing helped make the Lovelight, among others) when he comes back tonight. it would be nice if this is a test run for some outdoor venues next summer.
― loaded forbear (gabbneb), Wednesday, 29 April 2009 13:46 (fifteen years ago) link
So I stumble upon this Deadcast on iTunes, and I've never owned anything by this band and never listened to any of my friends' tapes, and, yes, this is boring compared to something like the Allman Brothers, but it's pretty good late-night wallpaper when I don't want to really listen to something but I don't want to be in a dead-silent room either. This is really high-end wallpaper, for free.
― Eazy, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 06:12 (fifteen years ago) link
How had I always skipped over "Fire in the City" before with hardly a second glance??? The song is fierce. I would have loved a full album collaboration between primal Dead and Jon Hendricks.
― & other try hard shitfests (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 30 September 2009 15:27 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.pnla.org/jobs/j76.htm
― _Rudipherous_, Sunday, 8 November 2009 05:51 (fourteen years ago) link
That has to be somebody's dream job.
― _Rudipherous_, Sunday, 8 November 2009 05:52 (fourteen years ago) link
http://pitchfork.com/news/42256-the-national-plan-grateful-dead-tribute-comp/
It looks like the National was talking about putting out a tribute comp, but then their label backpedalled on that statement? I would anticipate this, if it were to come to fruition.
― kkvgz, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 19:37 (thirteen years ago) link
The start of this thread was pretty funny. I wonder if Kate ever ended up actually listening to any Dead because she clearly hadn't 8 years ago.
― wk, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 19:51 (thirteen years ago) link
cia never wore tie-dyes. Hanes black Ts you tard.
I want to come out and just apologize for using the word "tard" two years ago. I don't do this now and think it was horrible of me to do so. Sorry.
― kkvgz, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 19:58 (thirteen years ago) link
lol at my "garcia" truncation.
― cia never wore tie-dyes (kkvgz), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 19:59 (thirteen years ago) link
he did wear tie dyes, I distincly remember him in the gatefold of Europe '72 or something like that in tie die. Plus he tie died ties.
― Thraft of Cleveland (Bill Magill), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 20:08 (thirteen years ago) link
I could have sworn I've seen pics of him wearing tie dyed shirts too, but now I can't find one online to back up my claims. I found pics of him wearing paisley, lots of flannel, and even a t-shirt with dolphins, but no tie dye.
― 'what are you, the Hymen Protection League of America?' (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 20:12 (thirteen years ago) link
He wore a hockey jersey every now and again.
― Trip Maker, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 20:15 (thirteen years ago) link
guys i found a photo of jerry wearing tie-dyehttp://www.bayareaonthecheap.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/Jerry_Garcia_Dead-300x230.gif
― tylerw, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 20:21 (thirteen years ago) link
no, no! It was clarified upthread that he did wear tie-dies for some period in the 70s? I was just apologizing for using bigotted language.
― cia never wore tie-dyes (kkvgz), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 20:24 (thirteen years ago) link
Weir hates tie-dye fyi
― Trip Maker, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 20:25 (thirteen years ago) link
the garcia in my mind isn't tie-die though. that guy is black as death.
― cia never wore tie-dyes (kkvgz), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 20:26 (thirteen years ago) link
Black Jerry
― Trip Maker, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 20:28 (thirteen years ago) link
two posts after apologizing for using bigoted language!!!!
― music loves drugs (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 20:35 (thirteen years ago) link
that's not even funny as far as willful misinterpretation goes.
― cia never wore tie-dyes (kkvgz), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 20:37 (thirteen years ago) link
He wasnt black, I( think he was of Spanish descent.
― Thraft of Cleveland (Bill Magill), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 20:39 (thirteen years ago) link
woah, settle down, just a bit of fun.
― Trip Maker, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 20:40 (thirteen years ago) link
he was talking to me TM; I'm sorry
― music loves drugs (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 20:44 (thirteen years ago) link
Black Peter
― Thraft of Cleveland (Bill Magill), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 20:53 (thirteen years ago) link
I clicked on this just to read Kate's post at the top again. Still OTM
― I'm Street but I Know my Roots (sonofstan), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 21:09 (thirteen years ago) link
It's possibly one of the worsts posts ive seen on ILM.
― Thraft of Cleveland (Bill Magill), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 21:12 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah, pretty bad. i like this one thoughA: "Hey, what are you listening to?"B: "Oh, it's, uh, Kremlin Tiger Flower, uh, 2506. Have you heard them before?"A: "Hmmm, it sounds familiar."B: "They're a Japanese noise band from the '70s. Original LPs are like $500 on Ebay, but, uh, this label out of Amsterdam just reissued their album and I got it from Forced Exposure."A: "Oh, yeah, I've heard of that...wow, this is awesome. It sounds like Sonic Youth or the Dead C or something."B: "Yeah, I can hear that, I guess."A: (listens) "Totally. Sonic Youth is totally ripping these guys off."(pause)B: "Actually, I'm just fucking with you. It's a Dead bootleg, they're doing 'Feedback'."A: "It's a Dead C bootleg? Wow, this is, like, the best stuff I've ever heard from them. How'd you get -- "B: "No, no, it's the Grateful Dead."A: (runs screaming from the room, snarky hipster credibility permanently ruined)
― tylerw, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 21:17 (thirteen years ago) link
^I remember that! That was great!
― music loves drugs (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 21:20 (thirteen years ago) link
Bertha (Skull and Roses) He's Gone (EUROPE '72) Jack Straw (EUROPE '72) Brown-Eyed Women (EUROPE '72)
Wharf Rat (Skull and Roses)Ramble On Rose (EUROPE '72) Tennessee Jed (EUROPE '72)
i listen to this playlist and pretend it's the greatest dead studio album
― mizzell, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 21:24 (thirteen years ago) link
^^^^
So what? SY and the Dead C are nearly as bad as the Dead (not as interminable tho') -You'd never mistake the Dead for someone, you know, good. Like when they try to play 'Jazz' or R n'B or Country, it never sounds like anything halfway acceptable in those fields: it just sounds like the Dead: out of tune, out of time, terrible singing and it goes on, and on,and on......
― I'm Street but I Know my Roots (sonofstan), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 21:25 (thirteen years ago) link
might just have to agree to disagree? (about the dead and the dead c)
― tylerw, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 21:30 (thirteen years ago) link
(& sonic youth)
― music loves drugs (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 19 April 2011 21:30 (thirteen years ago) link
That is a good playlist, Mizzell.
― Trip Maker, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 21:32 (thirteen years ago) link
holy shit someone on a message board doesn't like the Grateful Dead, this is ~important~ & will ~make a difference~
― Euler, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 21:33 (thirteen years ago) link
Dude, no, you have to hear this most ultimate jam session that they did on this super-rare collectible live bootleg out-take from 1973...
― tylerw, Tuesday, 19 April 2011 21:34 (thirteen years ago) link