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i don't really get all the talk about guests on Dreamchasers 2, the first Dreamchasers also had guests on about half the tracks, nearly all major label artists (if of generally lower star power). not a huge leap or change of approach at all imo.

shipl.de.al (some dude), Thursday, 7 June 2012 03:28 (twelve years ago) link

uh idk dude. he went from young chris, beanie sigle, rick ross (three times), yo gotti & some philly rappers to drake, jeremih, big sean (twice), kendrick lamar, fabolous, french montana, wale (twice), 2 chainz & mac miller. i think the homogenization is pretty obvious.

J0rdan S., Thursday, 7 June 2012 03:31 (twelve years ago) link

obviously this won't happen but i'd prefer if the pre-album mixtapes be collaboration heavy and then the actual album be more about showcasing the artist.

shipl.de.al (some dude), Thursday, 7 June 2012 03:32 (twelve years ago) link

i dont think his original post was per se about me, and seemed more targeted at the headline i didn't write, but nonetheless i thought it was overstated. the story is resonating with people as much as the music, sure, but i'm not sure that i see them as intractable

littledotheyknow (D-40), Thursday, 7 June 2012 03:38 (twelve years ago) link

wait. i misused that word. i meant you cant pull apart the music & teh story

littledotheyknow (D-40), Thursday, 7 June 2012 03:39 (twelve years ago) link

i didn't even know he was on house arrest. but then i don't know shit about shit.

shipl.de.al (some dude), Thursday, 7 June 2012 03:40 (twelve years ago) link

should pt out that the piece was actually at like 45k views until the kanye cosign

littledotheyknow (D-40), Thursday, 7 June 2012 03:40 (twelve years ago) link

yeah most of the collabs have been so-so, although i liked the Trel track. "Finessin" is probably the best post-mixtape track, and its just aite relative to "3hunna" or w/e

i'm interested to hear it, although i'm willing to bet that once summer comes around keef's buzz will have dimmed & louie's will have risen slightly just based on the material i've heard from each recently & the assumption that louie will start to flood the streets

this is speaking purely of local coverage, btw

littledotheyknow (D-40), Thursday, 7 June 2012 04:00 (twelve years ago) link

reflecting some more, it kind of seems to me like rap bloggers are almost more mad that their jobs are to be bloggers than anything else. like, there's not a zone for rap blogs or publications where you can actually weigh in on the relative merits (& lack thereof) of an artist; instead, all that happens is someone on rap radar is forced to post about keef so they just express how much they think he sucks, and post about him. meanwhile the fans are just posting I DONT LIKE on twitter over & over (guilty, or i was) & there's a lot of noise and he ends up in magazines & people just feel angry about how it feels like hes being forced on them

im saying this because lately it feels like a lot of people have come at me as if i'm blindly endorsing any & all keef material, or that i couldn't possibly have nuanced opinions about his work, or dislike some & like others, or see his relative shortcomings. i dont think anyone who likes some of keef's music has really inflated him to be something he's not, and so the backlash ends up feeling out of proportion

i complained about something similar w/ the killer mike record, just felt like a lot of the enthusiasm was a bit over the top & possibly affected by political sympathies, and i was like, i'd just like to see some more substantive critical writing about it that didn't take his general agreeableness as an inherent positive, and got someone saying NOW YOU KNOW HOW I FEEL ABOUT KEEF and i was like, wait, what?? b/c locally hes just SO controversial, i didn't think ANYONE was blanket pro-keef, he seems super divisive, but i guess when you live in an area where the real buzz is more distant and all you see is a few stories i've written about him that don't go into much music criticism & are more journalistic in nature, followed by a bunch of blogs/tumblrs picking up on it, you might see it as blanket enthusiasm?

idk been thinking about this stuff

littledotheyknow (D-40), Thursday, 7 June 2012 04:36 (twelve years ago) link

i guess end of day i don't get why it matters that hip press jumped on him, as if there wasn't a soulja boy or a d4l or any other number of rappers who had big regional hits that came out of nowhere. this seems like an excuse to bemoan hype w/out actually addressing that its the music people like about this, if the music wasn't there, if 'i don't like' wasn't charting (w/out the remix), then maybe he'd have a point

littledotheyknow (D-40), Thursday, 7 June 2012 06:07 (twelve years ago) link

like, if i hadn't written about this what would the difference be? a few months extra time spent through word of mouth until someone else cosigned him?

shit was going to happen period

littledotheyknow (D-40), Thursday, 7 June 2012 06:07 (twelve years ago) link

eh... Cuz My Gear is great imo, one of my songs of the year so far. Partly because of RiFF RaFF of course, but also partly because I always think the hook is really about Kanye and them who only want Keef for his "ear".

longneck, Thursday, 7 June 2012 10:20 (twelve years ago) link

holy shit england what are you doing?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCTxMZrPAYo&feature=branded

what a shitshow

"i got her brain training - no DS" *barfs*

wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 7 June 2012 20:11 (twelve years ago) link

can obama ban "(feat. Wale)"?

wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 8 June 2012 16:09 (twelve years ago) link

not really feeling the new Curren$y so far :/

wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 8 June 2012 16:18 (twelve years ago) link

Rapper Lil Phat Killed in Atlanta Shooting.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/rapper-lil-phat-killed-atlanta-shooting-335266

Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Friday, 8 June 2012 23:03 (twelve years ago) link

i have spent a month trying to think of anything interesting to say about the future album and now i hate it

kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Saturday, 9 June 2012 12:10 (twelve years ago) link

i also REALLY hate spaceghostpurrp what is this shit?

kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Saturday, 9 June 2012 12:10 (twelve years ago) link

yeah spaceghost is pretty stupid -- it SOUNDS good but it's just straight pastiche

J0rdan S., Saturday, 9 June 2012 18:23 (twelve years ago) link

He need's a ghost-writer... lol

mikethegrouch, Saturday, 9 June 2012 19:46 (twelve years ago) link

I don't think it even *sounds* good though.

Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Sunday, 10 June 2012 04:51 (twelve years ago) link

i think i might have become an old person rap fan cuz i like this way more than most young rappers i hear these days. it's not ground-breaking or anything but it sounds gorgeous, most of the tracks have beats that really push my pleasure buttons. the two singles are two of my favourites over the past year and the rest of the album supports them nicely.

i grant that it doesn't feel massively exciting but i think this might be a function of krit's mixtapes having already provided us with as much krit as we really "need". the mixtape-to-album transition seems pretty vexed right now for a lot of rappers, either stylistically or just in terms of over-saturation.

kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Sunday, 10 June 2012 08:28 (twelve years ago) link

uhhh wrong thread never mind!

kanye kardashian (lex pretend), Sunday, 10 June 2012 08:28 (twelve years ago) link

Boo Rossini ft Lil Boosie - Money Cash Hoes
http://www.sharebeast.com/sir2r30m05ht

this song, this is my kind of song

sisilafami, Sunday, 10 June 2012 12:21 (twelve years ago) link

http://soundcloud.com/sofowl/spark-up-prod-clockwork-muzik

FowL - Spark Up

littledotheyknow (D-40), Sunday, 10 June 2012 19:48 (twelve years ago) link

Hey goons. We're covering 'Loyalty' by Invy da Truth over at TSJ this week. Admittedly, I haven't been on top of rap this year as much as I'd like, but I didn't think I'd heard about him from any of y'all, and the track (esp. the production, but Invy as well) is pretty great, imo.

http://www.egotripland.com/invy-da-truth-loyalty/

Any thoughts? Anyone know what his deal is? For some reason I think I read somewhere that he's from Chicago.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Sunday, 10 June 2012 21:06 (twelve years ago) link

ego trip says hes from detroit

littledotheyknow (D-40), Sunday, 10 June 2012 21:23 (twelve years ago) link

myspace said chicago - http://www.myspace.com/invy22 - but who can trust myspace.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Sunday, 10 June 2012 21:24 (twelve years ago) link

St Spittin 'Lighters & Ink Pens Vol. 1' has some jams:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gp_MBudC94
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHG8qz1LMZI

Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Monday, 11 June 2012 06:16 (twelve years ago) link

Spark Up is awesome.

Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Monday, 11 June 2012 06:17 (twelve years ago) link

I never read the Gawker piece before. Gotta say, DJ Kenn's story is kind of amazing, somehow more interested in that...

MikoMcha, Monday, 11 June 2012 09:19 (twelve years ago) link

agree

tpp, Monday, 11 June 2012 10:12 (twelve years ago) link

This is why white people lock there car doors when they see black people on the street

Dr33mCrush3r 5 hours ago

@Dr33mCrush3r Since white people haven't heard of chief keeF I find that unlikely.

mymarkis666 1 hour ago

they loooovin the crut (The Reverend), Monday, 11 June 2012 10:20 (twelve years ago) link

anticipating the new armstrong tape

http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=GJxLVUuK0TI

sisilafami, Monday, 11 June 2012 12:17 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJxLVUuK0TI

sisilafami, Monday, 11 June 2012 12:18 (twelve years ago) link

I never read the Gawker piece before. Gotta say, DJ Kenn's story is kind of amazing, somehow more interested in that...

― MikoMcha, Monday, June 11, 2012 4:19 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

agree

― tpp, Monday, June 11, 2012 5:12 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

kenn is a real interesting dude but i still think keef's is the real story at the end of the day & kenn is a part of that, rather than the other way around. keef's the one who galvanized kids throughout the city and kenn's production talents are notable but not bigger than the wider story about what's happening here.

im worried about hype but only to the degree that it sets unreasonable expectations. but in keef's case, i don't think it's really there... people are interested in his story, where he's from and the songs he's recorded. i dont see why 'hype' would keep him from recording songs like he's done already.

littledotheyknow (D-40), Monday, 11 June 2012 15:28 (twelve years ago) link

specifically i wanna know more abt this bit:
Kenn had planned to spend just a year in the United States, but within ten months of moving to New York, he flew to Chicago. He spoke little-to-no English, and knew nobody in the city; he just knew he wanted to make music. Chief Keef's uncle Keith discovered him walking down the street in Woodlawn (a neighborhood that is 98 percent African American), and found him a place to stay. "He took me to an apartment right there across the street"—Kenn gestures out the front window—"and I stayed over there and started to do music. Keef came through, Santana came through, and we started recording."

tpp, Monday, 11 June 2012 15:33 (twelve years ago) link

I'm not worried about the hype at all. The man has minor hits, a story to go with them and a production unit with a defined sound. Let's not pretend as if we would be doing him a favor by not listening, writing, talking, quarreling etc. That stuff is plainly hypocritical. This music was made to be heard. If it's out there, it's up for grabs. Keef's objective has never been to become the new Andre 3000. He either makes more hits, more music worth talking about, or he doesn't. End of story. Casting him as some sort of victim to the hype machine is just in bad taste.

longneck, Monday, 11 June 2012 19:04 (twelve years ago) link

DJ Kenn

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5VCtngStMY#t=1m27s

MikoMcha, Monday, 11 June 2012 19:32 (twelve years ago) link

Errr... 1m27s - the time embed didn't work.

MikoMcha, Monday, 11 June 2012 19:32 (twelve years ago) link

aww broken link :(

littledotheyknow (D-40), Monday, 11 June 2012 20:02 (twelve years ago) link

anyway http://www.hotnewhiphop.com/travis-porter-it-ain-t-my-fault-song.861868.html this is so dope

littledotheyknow (D-40), Monday, 11 June 2012 20:13 (twelve years ago) link

that's on the spotify version of the album i've been listening to, apparently isn't on all versions though?

shipl.de.al (some dude), Monday, 11 June 2012 20:17 (twelve years ago) link

This is really good: http://untamed256.bandcamp.com/

longneck, Tuesday, 12 June 2012 07:29 (twelve years ago) link

http://limelinx.com/files/b10836756302033393a9c629400bb617

awesome. could unite generations.

scoop deville has really come out of nowhere this year

littledotheyknow (D-40), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 20:53 (twelve years ago) link

i like that description. will try it tonight.

“Argh!” I cry. But I really don’t care. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 12 June 2012 20:58 (twelve years ago) link

basically all i've been listening to this week
http://themartorialist.blogspot.ie/2012/05/max-minelli-compilation-4-u.html

Number None, Wednesday, 13 June 2012 13:31 (twelve years ago) link

woah i just looked up scoop deville and he's Frost (Kid Frost's) kid!!

wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 13 June 2012 15:50 (twelve years ago) link


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