rolling regional thug thread 2012

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Article is otm, but regionalism has been dying for a long time

Cfe: dre, em, and 50's early 00s stuff was all basically the big screen dre expensive sounding aesthetic... And 50 def sounded a little more southern than was typical of nyc..or jigga what by jay and big pimpin was him getting at the south

Or timbo/missy def had an aesthetic that didn't seem tied to a region and tim would make tracks for everyone

wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 19:25 (twelve years ago) link

article is incredibly myopic w/ its examples & that fundamentally undercuts trying to say something at all relevant about the subject

littledotheyknow (D-40), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 19:32 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUkoe_Sr5i0

around 2 min. keef does a double time flow that kinda kills

littledotheyknow (D-40), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 21:39 (twelve years ago) link

Well, this is too hard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttPE8WCEsmM

littledotheyknow (D-40), Wednesday, 20 June 2012 22:53 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPQ7a-yJ7cg

this goes hard too altho durk kinda kills reese on it

littledotheyknow (D-40), Thursday, 21 June 2012 00:32 (twelve years ago) link

only b+w videos today

pha'tal f. chief keef - fuck around
jack, mike larry, blast holiday and mistah fab - get money
lil durk f. lil reese - OTF

littledotheyknow (D-40), Thursday, 21 June 2012 00:33 (twelve years ago) link

That slate piece is a weird piece of work.

Regional Tug (irrational), Thursday, 21 June 2012 01:10 (twelve years ago) link

lil durk >

hardhouse banter (tpp), Thursday, 21 June 2012 07:45 (twelve years ago) link

Juvenile album is pretty boring to me, but the Wacko/Skip section toward the end kinda redeems it. been hearing "Nolia Clap" a lot lately and thinking about what a classic it is.

here's my lumber, so jack me maybe (some dude), Thursday, 21 June 2012 14:07 (twelve years ago) link

From a historical perspective, Ice Cubes Amerikkkas Most Wanted is probably the most important album in the decline of regionalism, him going over to the bomb squad and doing a verse on PEs burn hollywood burn felt pretty important at the time, esp when east/west tensions were high and cube was perceived as gangsta and pe perceived as conscious

Also kool g raps live and let die embraced thicker west coast beats and had sir jinx productions

Actually the source review of ready to die was framed as biggie taking the dominant west coast style and adding an east coat spin to it

wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 21 June 2012 14:20 (twelve years ago) link

What about LL's Bigger And Deffer? He recorded that with some LA producers.

fanute gingrich (The Reverend), Thursday, 21 June 2012 17:26 (twelve years ago) link

Juve album is pretty garbage really. 1st half outside of Power is a total loss. Still Here beat was ruined by the hook. idk, maybe 3 good tracks total.

Gotye Sports (It's In The Name) (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Thursday, 21 June 2012 17:37 (twelve years ago) link

Rev, yeah the LA Posse I think, still LA didn't really have a distinct identity then, or not unless it was super local and underground

So I don't think it was perceived in the same way, or that anyone thought LL was changing his style

wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 21 June 2012 17:53 (twelve years ago) link

LA had that whole Egyptian Lover/Uncle Jamm's Army/World Class Wreckin Cru electro-hop steez.

fanute gingrich (The Reverend), Thursday, 21 June 2012 18:01 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah but I don't know how much that traveled

I think around 84, 85 you could go to any city and kids were dressing like run dmc & LL

plus nothing on bigger and deffer sounded electro

wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 21 June 2012 18:48 (twelve years ago) link

dang

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfY-G9z9U4Y&feature=youtu.be

J0rdan S., Sunday, 24 June 2012 17:08 (twelve years ago) link

i smell a goon classic

J0rdan S., Sunday, 24 June 2012 17:21 (twelve years ago) link

http://s.ytimg.com/yt/img/image-404-vfl1vwmey.png

is this the face one makes when one smells a goon classic

some dude, Sunday, 24 June 2012 20:33 (twelve years ago) link

that vid isn't loading for me for some reason. can someone c+p the url?

littledotheyknow (D-40), Sunday, 24 June 2012 20:58 (twelve years ago) link

like i just see a blank space

littledotheyknow (D-40), Sunday, 24 June 2012 20:58 (twelve years ago) link

word. eager to listen

hardhouse banter (tpp), Sunday, 24 June 2012 21:39 (twelve years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dV1tMUP5z5A

J0rdan S., Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:27 (twelve years ago) link

Where's the drop!?

Gotye Sports (It's In The Name) (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:49 (twelve years ago) link

He's got a great voice. Like a scarface/mystikal mix, but more sloppy. Love the melody on the hook.

Gotye Sports (It's In The Name) (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:51 (twelve years ago) link

Where's the drop!?

― Gotye Sports (It's In The Name) (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Sunday, June 24, 2012 6:49 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark

haha

J0rdan S., Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:51 (twelve years ago) link

i like how it sorta blurs the line between a hymn and being lyrical on a young dro tip

makin discussions with russians and still whippin cookies

or

seats television, the interior jellyfish

or

me and scoop, hoppin outta two coupes, in two suits, with more o's than two bowls of fruit loops

but it's still this real swampy spiritual kinda thing

J0rdan S., Sunday, 24 June 2012 22:54 (twelve years ago) link

lol parts of the video look so strange set against that track

bass, Sunday, 24 June 2012 23:02 (twelve years ago) link

i love it. like scarface with a lil goodie mob via some grindin'. and yeah def. pickig up on the dro or gucci style lyricism. thank u j0rdan.

hardhouse banter (tpp), Sunday, 24 June 2012 23:21 (twelve years ago) link

i think the disconnect ive felt between the rap i hear & whats hot in nyc has never been more distant. did you guys know 'hands on the wheel' is IN ROTATION in new york?

littledotheyknow (D-40), Monday, 25 June 2012 05:03 (twelve years ago) link

ha i listen to hot 97 on my phone sometimes & i hear it as frequently as any other song. it's pretty bizarre.

J0rdan S., Monday, 25 June 2012 05:15 (twelve years ago) link

that fat joe/kanye song is pretty dope tho

J0rdan S., Monday, 25 June 2012 05:23 (twelve years ago) link

Alpoko Don: Rap game Dr. John.

(professor) (longneck), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 12:08 (twelve years ago) link

the bubble of new york people who think a$ap rocky will be/already is a 'UGE 'UGE STAR is hilarious

some dude, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 15:32 (twelve years ago) link

i heard as recently as a few months ago the label was still pushing peso to national radio stations

littledotheyknow (D-40), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 20:15 (twelve years ago) link

can't wait to hear this...

http://www.twitvid.com/Q0CC4

sisilafami, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 20:58 (twelve years ago) link

i heard as recently as a few months ago the label was still pushing peso to national radio stations

― littledotheyknow (D-40), Tuesday, June 26, 2012 4:15 PM (47 minutes ago) Bookmark

well they're pushing "goldie" now. which definitely has more traction nationally than "peso" ever had but is still not exactly a smash.

some dude, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 21:03 (twelve years ago) link

"goldie" is pretty bad... also seems like it's only marginally bigger than "peso"

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 26 June 2012 21:32 (twelve years ago) link

yeah i hate the hook so much

some dude, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 21:37 (twelve years ago) link

yeah it's really bothersome -- someone should let him know that not every one of his singles can have a screwed hook

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 26 June 2012 21:40 (twelve years ago) link

gotta give it to kanye (or whoever figured out the hook) 'lamborghini merci / your chick she so thirsty' is 100x catchier than any screwed asap hook even if thats who they bit the idea from

littledotheyknow (D-40), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 21:42 (twelve years ago) link

5% or something of all rap songs have had screwed hooks since time immemorial, how is it even possible to 'bite' the 'idea' from one recent guy

some dude, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 21:59 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, does "mercy" directly rip an asap song? i missed that

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 26 June 2012 22:00 (twelve years ago) link

what contemporary acts have screwed hooks right now? name one

littledotheyknow (D-40), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 22:39 (twelve years ago) link

i won't doubt kanye's desire to rip something off from every hot young rapper but it seems a bit generous to credit the hook on "mercy" to asap rocky instead of the entire sound & culture that it (including asap rocky) is spawned from

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 26 June 2012 22:56 (twelve years ago) link

the-dream has done screwed hooks a bit no?

anyone listened to self made vol 2?

hardhouse banter (tpp), Tuesday, 26 June 2012 23:02 (twelve years ago) link

I think its evident that bringing a screwed hook in 2012 is a reference to asap, unless youre a texas rapper

littledotheyknow (D-40), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 00:08 (twelve years ago) link

"anyone listened to self made vol 2?"

i did, prolly won't do it again.

sisilafami, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 00:13 (twelve years ago) link

eh, it's in every rap listener's vocabulary as much as sped-up soul samples and fucking record scratches at this point (xpost)

some dude, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 00:16 (twelve years ago) link

I think its evident that bringing a screwed hook in 2012 is a reference to asap, unless youre a texas rapper

― littledotheyknow (D-40), Tuesday, June 26, 2012 8:08 PM (45 minutes ago) Bookmark

yeah this is... not true, i think

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 27 June 2012 00:54 (twelve years ago) link


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