yeah I was just thinking I suppose the difference is that the current distinctions are drawn as between individuals' relationship with (roughly) the same culture/aesthetic rather than as between two competing (and stylistically/arguably generationally distinct) aesthetics.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 23:38 (twelve years ago) link
It's kind of like a fusing-together of the old authentic vs plastic division and the old innovators vs campfollowers division - the treatment of e.g. Frank Ocean is neither as another (say) Musiq Soulchild nor as another (say) Timbaland but a kind of combination of the two.
In some ways this kind of approach is harder to argue with (though that doesn't mean it's correct) because the protest "why shouldn't I want in-effect contemporary popular R&B with modern production and 'smarter' lyrics / subject matter?" seems more reasonable than "contemporary popular R&B is the very devil."
And you can attack the implied definition of 'smarter' as myopic and occasionally eye-rolly but outright objecting to stuff in that mould is difficult to justify objectively.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 23:46 (twelve years ago) link
this tweet stuff is ridic good
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 21 June 2012 19:08 (twelve years ago) link
sayin
― fanute gingrich (The Reverend), Thursday, 21 June 2012 19:41 (twelve years ago) link
holy shit @ "c 4eva" this is beautiful
― bitch I'm on the 242 (lex pretend), Friday, 22 June 2012 17:45 (twelve years ago) link
"trouble" too
what other tweet tuesdays tracks are there?
― bitch I'm on the 242 (lex pretend), Friday, 22 June 2012 17:46 (twelve years ago) link
http://soundcloud.com/dubose-music-group
^ they're here
― just sayin, Friday, 22 June 2012 17:58 (twelve years ago) link
Lead single from blackSUMMER'Snight forthcoming soon!
yessss
― 40oz of tears (Jordan), Friday, 22 June 2012 18:00 (twelve years ago) link
xp cheers
new brooke valentine official single - liking this on one listen, surprisingly lite and airy
― bitch I'm on the 242 (lex pretend), Friday, 22 June 2012 18:03 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzB5Cn0tGEU
um this new wynter gordon is kind of WOW
http://soundcloud.com/andygensler/01-stimela-by-wynter-gordon
looks like she's doing a dawn richard with her imminent EPs... http://www.billboard.com/news/wynter-gordon-goes-d-i-y-for-new-eps-exclusive-1007383752.story#/news/wynter-gordon-goes-d-i-y-for-new-eps-exclusive-1007383752.story
― bitch I'm on the 242 (lex pretend), Sunday, 24 June 2012 11:29 (twelve years ago) link
:-O Not what i was expecting at all...
― Tim F, Sunday, 24 June 2012 12:19 (twelve years ago) link
Maxwell tour canceled due to 'vocal hemorrhaging' :(
― some dude, Sunday, 24 June 2012 12:36 (twelve years ago) link
Tweet, Mama's Gun-esque
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTbgTADYhl4
These have all been so good
― Evan R, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 15:38 (twelve years ago) link
Have we had opinions about the new R Kelly album yet? I haven't heard past the two singles and I'm curious what the verdict is.
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:06 (twelve years ago) link
wasn't a huge fan of Love Letter but it worked for what it was, and this feels like diminishing returns. love the MJ riffing on "You Are My World" though.
― some dude, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:09 (twelve years ago) link
Only listened to it twice, but it seems pretty solid. With the 70s vibe its more of a sequel to Happy People than Love Letter, really. Given how terrible Kels' recent contemporary shit has been, I'm fine with him riding the retro lane a bit longer
― Evan R, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:12 (twelve years ago) link
i say this a lot, but i'd rather see black panties right now
― some dude, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:15 (twelve years ago) link
I don't think this was posted elsewhere, but our first taste of black panties (ha) was really dire. "Its On" (sic) makes me long for that Mark Morrison song we were all laughing at last year.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wr1VVtIABjM&feature=player_embedded#!
― Evan R, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:23 (twelve years ago) link
I was going to post about how amazing the Wynter Gordon song was before I got distracted by Miguel.
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:48 (twelve years ago) link
Matos quite likes the Kells.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 June 2012 21:54 (twelve years ago) link
wait a minute, how has "love letter" not being amazing been rewritten into the narrative without me realizing?
― k3vin k., Thursday, 28 June 2012 02:05 (twelve years ago) link
the song or the album? song was v good, album was fine, but "amazing" is an absurd word touse
― goonrise zingdom (some dude), Thursday, 28 June 2012 02:07 (twelve years ago) link
an absurd word to use, not the absurd word "touse"
― goonrise zingdom (some dude), Thursday, 28 June 2012 02:08 (twelve years ago) link
who you calling abtouse
― k3vin k., Thursday, 28 June 2012 02:11 (twelve years ago) link
i meant the album, tho obviously that applies to the song too. alubm runs out of steam toward the end for me but there are a ton of gems too, things like "#1 hit" and "lost in your love" are better than he's done in years
― k3vin k., Thursday, 28 June 2012 02:12 (twelve years ago) link
also i had no idea he had a new album, nice
the kellz is good, maybe not as whoa or noteworthy as love letter but def worth hearing - more "step in the name of love"-style midtempos than big lavish balladry. "believe in me" is kind of amazing, "fool for you" is prob my fav.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDeFJHirxpY
― bitch I'm on the 242 (lex pretend), Thursday, 28 June 2012 08:47 (twelve years ago) link
I like this random alt-soul EP I picked up. Really good production, but the singer seems kind of lobotomized and I'm not sure I've heard an altogether necessary cover of "Sour Times" yet. Best track, I think, is "Free" which kind of sounds like Dawn x uk funky.
http://soundcloud.com/chericoke/sets/x-coke/
― The Reverend, Friday, 29 June 2012 03:25 (twelve years ago) link
is this the official point where there is no longer any point in posting things in the "kinda out there, maybe kinda experimental, maybe kinda pretentious modern r&b" thread instead of this one
― goonrise zingdom (some dude), Friday, 29 June 2012 03:27 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, maybe
― The Reverend, Friday, 29 June 2012 03:39 (twelve years ago) link
errr, by Dawn i mean Druski tbh
― The Reverend, Friday, 29 June 2012 03:46 (twelve years ago) link
I think I could listen to R Kelly stepper tunes forever. "Believe That It's So" is so lovely, I just want it to keep going and going.
"Fool For You" is lovely, yes.
― Tim F, Friday, 29 June 2012 17:13 (twelve years ago) link
i worship "Step In The Name Of Love" but the newer stuff really doesn't remotely hit the same mark imo
― goonrise zingdom (some dude), Friday, 29 June 2012 17:29 (twelve years ago) link
Timothy Bloom, reliable jaw-dropper:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qmxPPMLII4
― Evan R, Monday, 9 July 2012 19:44 (twelve years ago) link
Also, don't want to dwell on it too much, but Ne-Yo just put out a shitty Euro-pop single called—I shit you not—"Let Me Love You." Sacrilegious.
― Evan R, Monday, 9 July 2012 19:53 (twelve years ago) link
wtf
― chain the color of am0n (The Reverend), Monday, 9 July 2012 20:19 (twelve years ago) link
the album after titling a song "one in a million" !!!!
― J0rdan S., Monday, 9 July 2012 20:20 (twelve years ago) link
also he's on that new timbaland song which seemed really soupy in that bad over-the-hill timbaland way
This stings that much more b/c he's been hyping his new album as a return to basics, true R&B record. He's doing that thing I hate where artists straight up lie about what their new album is going to be
― Evan R, Monday, 9 July 2012 20:23 (twelve years ago) link
(I actually sorta love his "One in a Million," though, so I can't complain too much about the title-aping, I guess)
― Evan R, Monday, 9 July 2012 20:24 (twelve years ago) link
Haven't heard this latest Ne-Yo track yet, but is the R&B trend in 2012 dropping a compelling single and then following it up with a shitty Guetta-esque club track? See also, Usher.
― to welcome jer.fairall, pie is served. (jer.fairall), Monday, 9 July 2012 20:26 (twelve years ago) link
it's more like dual-singles than follow-ups
― J0rdan S., Monday, 9 July 2012 20:26 (twelve years ago) link
and artists have been releasing songs to diff radio formats for years
― J0rdan S., Monday, 9 July 2012 20:27 (twelve years ago) link
yeah ne-yo's "one in a million" is good but still
I feel like as one of the few listeners who values albums as albums, I'm doubly fucked over by the Guetta-ization of R&B. Because almost without exception, those singles not only suck, but they totally fuck up the flow of an entire album
― Evan R, Monday, 9 July 2012 20:30 (twelve years ago) link
^^^
this.
― to welcome jer.fairall, pie is served. (jer.fairall), Monday, 9 July 2012 20:41 (twelve years ago) link
I feel like I'm the only one around here who likes "Scream".
― chain the color of am0n (The Reverend), Monday, 9 July 2012 20:55 (twelve years ago) link
I think it's decent, I like a lot of what follows it on the album more tho
― I see you, Pineapple Teef (DJP), Monday, 9 July 2012 20:57 (twelve years ago) link
Still haven't listened to the full album. Can I expect more "Climax" or more "Scream?"
― to welcome jer.fairall, pie is served. (jer.fairall), Monday, 9 July 2012 21:03 (twelve years ago) link