right, I always disliked Malcolm until I heard Unlimited Ed.
Madness, Malcolm is awesome and that period of Can is their most consistent imo
― Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Friday, 22 June 2012 11:07 (eleven years ago) link
In terms of the outtakes yes but c'mon Suzuki all the way
― frogbs, Friday, 22 June 2012 15:22 (eleven years ago) link
We've had this debate on here before. Early Can has far less noodling about and wayward experimentation - well far less released noodling about and wayward experimentation! That's all.
― Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Friday, 22 June 2012 15:24 (eleven years ago) link
Are you waiting for the streetcar?
― cwkiii, Friday, 22 June 2012 15:24 (eleven years ago) link
I thought I was, but a naked man just ran past.
Anyways, the impression I get is that MMooney was more of a driving force in the early days ("The Can" being an americanism, for example), and that Damo was added to the mix while it was being made.
― Mark G, Friday, 22 June 2012 15:26 (eleven years ago) link
Sounds right
― Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Friday, 22 June 2012 15:27 (eleven years ago) link
surprised by the musique concrete-style things on here.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 22 June 2012 16:51 (eleven years ago) link
I love the Malcolm tracks in Unlimited Edition, too.
― Trip Maker, Thursday, June 21, 2012 5:24 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
^^^^ fwiw. a few of their v best songs. i can't understand why the slimmer limited edition is the thing that's usually reissued.
psyched to hear people are into this. i heard a little and it was bizarre just to hear a song that started with the weird broth of can-sounding bass, karoli guitar whines, &c
― blossom smulch (schlump), Friday, 22 June 2012 17:05 (eleven years ago) link
i didn't think limited edition had ever been reissued. unlimited replaced it in 1976.
― fit and working again, Friday, 22 June 2012 17:23 (eleven years ago) link
was pretty sure i saw a bunch of new vinyl copies last time they did a batch of reissues. maybe i'm wrong though.
― blossom smulch (schlump), Friday, 22 June 2012 17:44 (eleven years ago) link
fakeys.
― Mark G, Friday, 22 June 2012 17:46 (eleven years ago) link
oh huh
― blossom smulch (schlump), Friday, 22 June 2012 17:48 (eleven years ago) link
Mine just came in and I'm shocked at the sound quality; dunno if it's just years of d/ling shitty bootlegs or listening to the "official" Live Box and Radio Waves releases but I expected the quality to be terrible, especially as these recordings basically sat for forty years, but damn does this thing sound good, even though some of the avant garde junk on the first disc is pretty damn irritating (how much of this stuff did Can produce?)
― frogbs, Monday, 25 June 2012 14:03 (eleven years ago) link
why did no one mention that there was basically a 12-minute version of "Vitamin C" on here, this is so damn great
― frogbs, Tuesday, 26 June 2012 21:57 (eleven years ago) link
friendly neighbourhood whore - fabulous groove
― nonightsweats, Thursday, 28 June 2012 08:06 (eleven years ago) link
and if that's not one for the 'out-of-context' thread...
― Mark G, Thursday, 28 June 2012 08:24 (eleven years ago) link
there should be a "favorite moment in dead pigeon suite" poll
― nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Friday, 29 June 2012 15:06 (eleven years ago) link
well not really but there are so many to choose from
its gotta be right when the music switches from the slow part to that insane groove
― frogbs, Friday, 29 June 2012 15:11 (eleven years ago) link
which time!?
i like the early music arrangement of the first minute --> when the percussion comes in around 1:11 or so and then also that OOOOW somewhere in the middle
― nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Friday, 29 June 2012 15:12 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dDmmrpyVnk
the vitamin c segment is OUT OF CONTROL
― nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Friday, 29 June 2012 15:13 (eleven years ago) link
yeah the part where Damo kind of comes out of nowhere is my favorite
― frogbs, Friday, 29 June 2012 15:14 (eleven years ago) link
My actual physical copy of this should be arriving at the record store today! I was a good person and bought it locally. Excited!
Also, LL being a Can fan makes me happy
― mh, Friday, 29 June 2012 15:14 (eleven years ago) link
Lindsay Lohan?
― Mark G, Friday, 29 June 2012 15:16 (eleven years ago) link
She knows all about the Can
― Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Friday, 29 June 2012 15:16 (eleven years ago) link
You should be excited! I waited (so chaste!) until I could listen to my very own copy and it was worth it. The book is fun too.
― nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Friday, 29 June 2012 15:18 (eleven years ago) link
Lene Lovich.
― nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Friday, 29 June 2012 15:19 (eleven years ago) link
Jamming this this morning and my 2 1/2 year-old was jumping around gleefully during "streetcar"... "WHAT IS HE SAYYYYYING?!!"
― tylerw, Friday, 29 June 2012 15:19 (eleven years ago) link
Gonna show some of my friends the Can Free Concert film. Can fever all over again.
― Trip Maker, Friday, 29 June 2012 15:21 (eleven years ago) link
I know people talk about how great Jaki is all the time but I kinda feel sometimes that this boxset is just one big testament to him
― frogbs, Friday, 29 June 2012 15:21 (eleven years ago) link
I know people talk about how great Jaki is all the time but I kinda feel sometimes that this boxset band is just one big testament to him
― Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Friday, 29 June 2012 15:21 (eleven years ago) link
xp Lucky friends! I've never seen that.
― nicest bitch of poster (La Lechera), Friday, 29 June 2012 15:22 (eleven years ago) link
You should.
― Trip Maker, Friday, 29 June 2012 15:23 (eleven years ago) link
Ha...my girlfriend can't stand "Streetcar", "It just keeps going and going!"
Me: "That's the point!"
Also read this sold 2k in Wk1 of release.
― dronestreet, Friday, 29 June 2012 15:23 (eleven years ago) link
More than anything, this box, to me, shows how important Malcolm Mooney was to Can.
― Trip Maker, Friday, 29 June 2012 15:26 (eleven years ago) link
they were all pretty good
― Number None, Friday, 29 June 2012 15:27 (eleven years ago) link
Yay, at last Malcolm is getting his due
― Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Friday, 29 June 2012 15:27 (eleven years ago) link
yeah if you just go through the actual albums you'd get the impression that Malcolm was just a crazy vocalist that got kicked out halfway through the 2nd album (and replaced with an even crazier one)
― frogbs, Friday, 29 June 2012 15:28 (eleven years ago) link
Damo was not crazier. I liked Rosko Gee, so I'm not the most subjective here.
― Too Busy Thinking About Mr. Abie (Tom D.), Friday, 29 June 2012 15:29 (eleven years ago) link
Certainly they all play crucial roles in the band. Just reading Irmin's thoughts about the early days made me realize that Malcolm provided that difference they needed, and his chants gave something for Jaki to anchor to.
― Trip Maker, Friday, 29 June 2012 15:30 (eleven years ago) link
I would think Damo was probably a more stable person in general but his vocals definitely were a lot freakier
― frogbs, Friday, 29 June 2012 15:30 (eleven years ago) link
The Can Book by Pascal Bussy isn't likely to finally see a reissue anytime soon is it? I got caught out by the Book Depositary saying it was imminently being reissued about 4 or 5 years ago, ordered it and it never appeared. Would love to read it, or any new bio of the band in book form.
Would think with their international popularity there would be at least a couple of bios around. There was the book that came with the original can Box Set but that isn't very long or in depth.
― Stevolende, Friday, 29 June 2012 16:58 (eleven years ago) link
Did anyone else notice how "Streetcar" has the "Go go power rangers!" melody in it halfway through
― frogbs, Friday, 29 June 2012 17:12 (eleven years ago) link
lol, almost as great as Parappa the Rapper having a direct rip of "Turtles Have Short Legs" in it
― mh, Friday, 29 June 2012 18:07 (eleven years ago) link
I noticed that too!! But I thought it was kind of silly to assume that the creators of the game had heard some obscure Can B-side, so I figured the melody itself was pretty common. I didn't think anyone else would make the connection.
― frogbs, Friday, 29 June 2012 18:10 (eleven years ago) link
ilx has noticed it many times
― mh, Friday, 29 June 2012 18:14 (eleven years ago) link
I suppose so. I dunno what other message board would.
Anyway, I'm starting to really appreciate Malcolm now - I really wish they'd gotten more stuff like "Midnight Sky" on record
― frogbs, Friday, 29 June 2012 19:18 (eleven years ago) link
It's funny you say that because Midnight Sky sounds a whole lot like "Little Star of Bethlehem" imo.
― Trip Maker, Friday, 29 June 2012 19:22 (eleven years ago) link
I *like* "Little Star" on Radio Waves; the version on Delay kind of got on my nerves. I think it's actually Damo on the Radio Waves one though. Also "Midnight Sky" is a lot more intense. But I'll have to give Delay another listen; outside of "Uphill" I don't remember much of it.
― frogbs, Friday, 29 June 2012 19:29 (eleven years ago) link
I'm so clueless I don't know if that's good or bad. I mean, in the mind of the sort of person for whom Can really are "bigger than the Beatles," it sound incredibly low. But maybe not?
I can't imagine how all the great reissues happening over the last decade are making a living for anyone, if Can sells 2k copies of their first unreleased music in 25 years. . .
― Soundslike, Saturday, 30 June 2012 01:01 (eleven years ago) link