Disappointing if that is true, especially since as it is their albums are already pretty notorious for shuffling around (or re-recording) the same music on different albums.
― Joe (Joe), Saturday, 19 June 2004 21:59 (nineteen years ago) link
i've seen just about all of herzog's films at least once. 'signs of life' is really pretty good. i had no idea that florian was in 'kaspar hauser', and that he's in some of my favorite scenes in that film. the guy who plays kaspar hauser, bruno s., is also in another of herzog's called 'stroszek' which is pretty good too.
― urker, Saturday, 19 June 2004 22:45 (nineteen years ago) link
In Kaspar, Fricke looks uncannily Beethoven-like, as if he had stepped right out of the Romantic era...
― Joe (Joe), Saturday, 19 June 2004 23:01 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 22 June 2004 01:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― John 2, Saturday, 17 July 2004 18:41 (nineteen years ago) link
AffenstundeAgape/AgapeEinsjäger und SiebenjägerHosianna MantraAguirre
They are very good, and I A/B-ed them with my Spalax issues, and the new ones sound a bit (though noticeably) better - more "open" sounding, perhaps. some of them are vinyl transfers by the sound of it. Pretty well done, though not as good as the transfer on High Tide's "Sea Shanties, for example. They all come in little gatefold cardboard sleeves w/a little booklet. It appears that there are only 2 booklets, going on the ones I have - one for the regular albums, one for the soundtracks. Some of the blurb in the booklets is OK, but it's a little unsatisfying in some way. There are some good pictures, including a few I hadn't seen before. the bonus tracks are generally good, though the one on "agiurre" sounds suspiciously like one of the regular album tracks with a sampled ethnicky percussion loop overlayed, which sucks. The extras on "Einsjaeger..." are the best, 2 little pieces in the Hoheleid Salomos/Letze Tage..." style, IE more of the same, but bore of this same = more of what I want. I am REALLY looking forward to picking up "Das Hoheleid Salomos", "Letzte Tage Letzte Nacht" and "Der Nacht der Seele", because they are my favourites. I'm also interested to hear what's on "Cobra Verde" because I remember there being tow different versions of this when it came out.
I found myself getting faintly annoyed at how little Danny Fischelsher got mentioned in the blurb. That seems unfair somehow.
It would be good if they also issued "Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee"
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 6 January 2005 13:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 6 January 2005 13:02 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 6 January 2005 13:04 (nineteen years ago) link
I should also point out that all the reissues I bought have the proper dynamics, IE they haven't been loudness-maximised. Honestly, I was so relieved about this that I had a lump in my throat! (true!)
A little while ago, I also picked up the reissue of "shepherd's Symphony" (or whatever it's called) from the same series. It's really bad.
Also Also Also!!! ! I tried to play my CD of "For You and Me" the other night, and it had self-destructed!! All the metal foil had come away from the plastic disc!
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 6 January 2005 13:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 6 January 2005 13:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Thursday, 6 January 2005 13:18 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Thursday, 6 January 2005 13:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 7 February 2005 13:00 (nineteen years ago) link
been listening to Nosferatu a lot recently. I would rate that one much higher than dadaismus does, but I rate the spare minimal electronics much higher, and think they balance out the other lovely band parts... actually I'd even say it's a good place to start for the atmospheric side of the band. With Letzte Tage, letzte Nächte being a good place to start for the transcendental heavy rock side.
― (Jon L), Monday, 7 February 2005 20:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dominique (dleone), Friday, 25 March 2005 21:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dadrock, Meshach and Abednego (Dada), Friday, 8 April 2005 11:30 (nineteen years ago) link
― Joe (Joe), Friday, 8 April 2005 14:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― Baaderonixx cancels each other out (Fabfunk), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 12:19 (eighteen years ago) link
seriously, dadaismus' pocket reviews up there are gold, though Nosferatu & Aguirre are two of my absolute favorites precisely because they mix the electronic & rock sides of the band so well, some people don't like the minimal moog solos
― milton parker (Jon L), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 17:36 (eighteen years ago) link
i haven't heard that much of their stuff, tho.
― Ian John50n (orion), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 17:41 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ô¿Ô (eman), Wednesday, 20 July 2005 22:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― Joe (Joe), Thursday, 21 July 2005 00:42 (eighteen years ago) link
and I'd like to second Florian's appearance in Kaspar Hauser. Heartbreaking. Kaspar listens to Florian play the piano, never having experienced art and music and it's power before, and says something along the lines of "why does my heart feel so heavy?"
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 21 July 2005 03:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― SoHoLa (SoHoLa), Thursday, 21 July 2005 13:16 (eighteen years ago) link
― Baaderonixx cancels each other out (Fabfunk), Friday, 22 July 2005 13:06 (eighteen years ago) link
so i'm listening to the first in the list, aguirre, on headphones and... WTF THERE ARE LOUD VINYL POPS ALL OVER THIS BITCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i don't even want to listen to the others now. all i can think about is the money i shelled out for SHITTY VINYL TO CD TRANSFERS.
― amon (eman), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 01:09 (eighteen years ago) link
― amon (eman), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 01:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― Diddyismus the Blind (of Alexandria) (Dada), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 11:54 (eighteen years ago) link
i'm really amazed at how good these albums are. and i've only got about half of them. apparently when you line all the cds up the spines will form an image which i believe is the same one of fricke on the back cover. the repetitive booklets seem kind of lazy but whatever.
anyone notice how Black Dice sound like "Affenstunde"?
― amon (eman), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 12:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― Baaderonixx on a long black leash (Fabfunk), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 13:30 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dadaismus (Dada), Tuesday, 23 August 2005 13:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― amon (eman), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 01:04 (eighteen years ago) link
the music for both films is credited to Fricke. and it's easily possible to imagine this piece made by Popol Vuh, although it doesn't sound quite like anything else I've heard by them. could it be the piece is by someone else? (if so, ideas please?!) however, similar chords seem to sound in some more Vuh-like music that appears later in Steiner - so maybe it's just an intro to a longer piece.
due to the number of comments all around (check internet) about unreleased Herzog Popol Vuh, I'm guessing the same piece struck a chord with others...
― Paul (scifisoul), Saturday, 18 March 2006 05:24 (eighteen years ago) link
― Joe (Joe), Saturday, 18 March 2006 17:54 (eighteen years ago) link
1. "Selig sind, die da hungern Selig sind, die da dürsten nach GerechtigkeitJa, sie sollen satt werden." 5:59
2. "Tanz der Chassidim" 3:12
3. "Selig sind, die da hier weinenJa, sie sollen später lachen." 5:07 4. "Selig sind, die da willig arm sindJa, ihrer ist das Himmelreich." 3:10
5. "Selig sind, die da Leid tragenJa, sie sollen getröstet werden." 3:39
6. "Selig sind die SanfmütigenJa, sie werden einst die Erde erben." 2:30
7. "Selig sind, die da reinen Herzens sindJa, sie sollen Gott schauen." 2:33
8. "Ja, sie sollen Gottes Kinder heissenAgnus dei, Agnus dei." 2:39
― o -- (eman), Saturday, 18 March 2006 19:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― Joe (Joe), Saturday, 18 March 2006 20:12 (eighteen years ago) link
"YOGA is an unauthorized release. Some Indian musicians visited me in my studio, and somebody else took the tapes and sold them under the name of Popol Vuh, but it had nothing to do with Popol Vuh, really. I'm playing harmonium and organ. I think it was released in Italy."
Florian Fricke, interview on Eurock.com
― o -- (eman), Saturday, 18 March 2006 21:26 (eighteen years ago) link
― Pangolino 2, Monday, 17 April 2006 23:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― pssst - badass revolutionary art! (plsmith), Monday, 17 April 2006 23:31 (eighteen years ago) link
― Joe (Joe), Monday, 17 April 2006 23:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― nervous.gif (eman), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 04:25 (eighteen years ago) link
― Ricki Belloni (Pangolino 3), Wednesday, 26 April 2006 04:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― Q('.'Q) (eman), Saturday, 10 June 2006 22:33 (seventeen years ago) link
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― Il mio nome e' Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 16 June 2006 08:05 (seventeen years ago) link
― Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 16 June 2006 09:49 (seventeen years ago) link
listened to some of cobra verde last night, half of it sounds like a gas album without the buried house thump, fucking awesome.
― Q('.'Q) (eman), Friday, 16 June 2006 11:46 (seventeen years ago) link
― electro-acoustic lycanthrope (orion), Friday, 16 June 2006 12:33 (seventeen years ago) link
Sei still, wisse ich bin is really good too, imo
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Monday, 30 January 2023 20:40 (one year ago) link
Yeah I dig that one quite a bit, was happy I found it.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 30 January 2023 20:42 (one year ago) link
noted, hey the 2017 Wah Wah version of that isn't insanely expensive!
― sleeve, Monday, 30 January 2023 20:43 (one year ago) link
yea I mean Aguirre alone - a bunch of Side A is alternate takes from Einsjager, Side B is a long discarded track from the Moog era called "Vergegenwärtigung", but later editions replaced it with 3 other tracks from later albums, though on the CD it's still one long track called "Vergegenwärtigung". some editions have "Aguirre III" and others have the 3-part "Spirit of Peace" on it. very little of this was actually in the film, though one of the tunes that was (the bit at the end of the first title track) isn't even listed on the sleeve. so what, exactly, would the definitive edition be??
― frogbs, Monday, 30 January 2023 20:45 (one year ago) link
This is from Agape-Agape and has the slow burn propulsion I love in this band https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2WMsM-c4bY
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Monday, 30 January 2023 20:47 (one year ago) link
Agape-Agape is good but the production is just so lo-fi, I don't know what that was about.
― Maggot Bairn (Tom D.), Monday, 30 January 2023 23:58 (one year ago) link
^^^
― Kim Kimberly, Tuesday, 31 January 2023 02:44 (one year ago) link
fourth'd
― budo jeru, Wednesday, 1 February 2023 02:50 (one year ago) link
just got the 2nd box. wow Seligpreisung is really good. sounds like Magma attempting Hosianna Mantra. sure wish Djong Yun was on it though!
― frogbs, Tuesday, 6 June 2023 02:18 (eleven months ago) link
I love Seligpreisung. It sounds to me like a jammier Obscured By Clouds-era Pink Floyd. Fricke's vocals are definitely the weakest thing about it. I don't actually mind them that much, but I would have preferred Djong Yun to sing it too. But it's all good because we have Das Hohelied Salomos for that. I recently treated myself to a clean OG German vinyl pressing of that one for my birthday, and I couldn't be happier with it. I love everything about that record, down to the whimsical/menacing cover art--spiritual psych perfection.
― J. Sam, Tuesday, 27 June 2023 18:29 (eleven months ago) link
i adore that record.
― budo jeru, Tuesday, 27 June 2023 19:34 (eleven months ago) link
hosianna mantra
― LaMDA barry-stanners (||||||||), Saturday, 9 December 2023 21:22 (five months ago) link
This thread is ilm at its best innit: knowledgeable, obsessive, in love with its subject in a way that can only make you go wandering.
Don't think it's actually linked here, but ended up at the 1996 Edw1n P0uncey interview this morning. https://popolvuh.nl/archive/bibliography/34-archive/bibliography/180-my-strange-life-florian-fricke-interview
― I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Saturday, 16 December 2023 09:48 (five months ago) link
That's a great read, thank you!irl lol:
FF - Sometimes I think about this. There's only one person in Germany I like (except for Gerhard!), to sit together with him. It's Boris Becker! He's a good man. My son knows him. And he's sung for the disco
― willem, Saturday, 16 December 2023 10:19 (five months ago) link
Hehehe.
Also liked:
GA - Have you ever been in England, Florian?FF - Yes, I was very early in London in the 1960s .. .l met some people, the Crazy World of Arthur Brown. The London 'underground' scene ... the Pink Floyd.EP - Did you see Yoko in her gallery?FF - No, it was private. It was terrible. The doors had no locks on them; there was a chair. The chair was half. I had claustrophobia. I need closed doors. And so the first doors I (whoosh) opened them up and then no possible more come out this terrible woman out of the room.
FF - Yes, I was very early in London in the 1960s .. .l met some people, the Crazy World of Arthur Brown. The London 'underground' scene ... the Pink Floyd.
EP - Did you see Yoko in her gallery?
FF - No, it was private. It was terrible. The doors had no locks on them; there was a chair. The chair was half. I had claustrophobia. I need closed doors. And so the first doors I (whoosh) opened them up and then no possible more come out this terrible woman out of the room.
― I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Saturday, 16 December 2023 10:52 (five months ago) link