The first time me and my friends heard 'One Step Closer', we thought "oh, fucking hell, this sounds like Savage Garden are trying to hop onto the nu-metal bandwagon".
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Tuesday, 3 July 2012 03:33 (eleven years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Wednesday, 4 July 2012 00:01 (eleven years ago) link
I respect this tie
― da croupier, Wednesday, 4 July 2012 00:01 (eleven years ago) link
lol I completely forgot about "One Step Closer" which would probably have gotten my vote
― qop (crüt), Thursday, 17 November 2016 03:51 (seven years ago) link
Yikes. TMZ reporting something grim.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 20 July 2017 18:07 (six years ago) link
Jesus.
― maura, Thursday, 20 July 2017 18:09 (six years ago) link
What the actual fuck!?
― The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Thursday, 20 July 2017 18:13 (six years ago) link
As I just said elsewhere, what's really grim is that "In the End" is such an amazing fusion of Depeche-into-NIN, nu-metal, boy band, it was perfect for its time and lasts. But good god the lyrics are just going to override everything about it from here on in.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 20 July 2017 18:13 (six years ago) link
When I saw the thread title, and before I clicked on it, I was thinking "Yeah, 'Breaking the Habit', that was a good one!"
― The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Thursday, 20 July 2017 18:17 (six years ago) link
I must confess, I wasn't massive keen on Linkin Park back in 2000-2001, but 16-17 years later I realise they were not only very good at what they did, but some of the music has aged very well.
― The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Thursday, 20 July 2017 18:20 (six years ago) link
*massively.
― The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Thursday, 20 July 2017 18:21 (six years ago) link
Jesus, how terrible. I used to hate this band with a passion but started to come around after reading a few interviews with Bennington - there was one where he mentioned banning alcohol at LP's shows because he felt bad for the cleaning crews afterwards, I was like, man...that's really a genuinely nice thing to do. so strange to think that Hybrid Theory is gonna go down as one of the last true blockbuster rock albums. RIP man.
― frogbs, Thursday, 20 July 2017 18:25 (six years ago) link
This reminder knocked me for six
He gave Chris Cornell eulogy, was godfather to his kids, and it's Cornell's birthday today. https://t.co/qXqIqY7buK— goldenfiddle (@goldenfiddle) July 20, 2017
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 20 July 2017 18:25 (six years ago) link
awful. RIP.
― goole, Thursday, 20 July 2017 18:29 (six years ago) link
Fuck. Yeah, what Turrican said. If you can get over yourself and just listen to an artist working in a genre, you'll hear an extraordinarily gifted vocalist, melodist and lyricist. From what little I know second hand, he was also a really decent guy with a good heart. I wish he'd given himself more time.
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Thursday, 20 July 2017 18:41 (six years ago) link
Wow, this is brutal
― Neanderthal, Thursday, 20 July 2017 18:41 (six years ago) link
Ah fuck, that's really sad. I LOVED Linkin Park at their peak. Chester always seemed like he had it together - I don't remember him being a serious druggie like Weiland or Staley, but I know he went through a coke and pills phase. Suicide at 41, and he has kids right? So sad...
― flappy bird, Thursday, 20 July 2017 18:41 (six years ago) link
Billboard said SIX kids.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Thursday, 20 July 2017 18:43 (six years ago) link
poor guy, awful
― Odysseus, Thursday, 20 July 2017 18:44 (six years ago) link
xxp yea I don't think he had much of a substance abuse problem but he definitely struggled with depression a lot. not saying this had anything to do with it but the reception of the last LP album seemed to really bother him a lot.
― frogbs, Thursday, 20 July 2017 18:48 (six years ago) link
this.years ago i took the piss out of a friend who told me she loved this band.then i got sent their catalogue and came to realise the errors of my narrow minded ways.as ned said, their mix of DM/NiN/emo/metal vs big chorus heavy pop songs can be rather special when in the right mood.
and given all i have ever read about him, this is a weird one to come to terms with.
r.i.p.
― mark e, Thursday, 20 July 2017 18:49 (six years ago) link
Hybrid Theory and most of Meteora hold up really well. Definitely the most reliable singles band of the nu-metal era, and the only one that managed to survive well into the 00's...
― flappy bird, Thursday, 20 July 2017 18:50 (six years ago) link
'numb' a monument
― goole, Thursday, 20 July 2017 18:50 (six years ago) link
there was once a piece on Grantland (??) where it was revealed that the band wrote 30+ different choruses to "Crawling" before they found the right one. regardless of how you feel about nu-metal it really is a perfect song. I'm kind of embarrassed to say it wasn't until last year that I finally was able to come out and say, y'know, I kinda dig those guys
― frogbs, Thursday, 20 July 2017 18:51 (six years ago) link
Christ, you know who must be feeling it today? Stone Temple Pilots -- Chester replaced Weiland for a couple of years there not long ago.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 20 July 2017 18:51 (six years ago) link
I'm pretty sure Linkin Park helped a lot of kids deal with mental health issues, they were pretty key to many of my friends in that regard. These news are particularly devastating in that regard. RIP Chester, wish he knew he made the world a better place.
― Van Horn Street, Thursday, 20 July 2017 18:53 (six years ago) link
when you know you've really done something:
https://vine.co/v/OunjJIB6mnE
― goole, Thursday, 20 July 2017 18:54 (six years ago) link
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Thursday, July 20, 2017 11:41 AM (sixteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
otm. his vocal work on a thousand suns is gorgeous (that record is almost perfect imo)
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 20 July 2017 18:58 (six years ago) link
you were not alone in that thought :
https://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=41&threadid=83175
and it is indeed a bloody wonderful album.
― mark e, Thursday, 20 July 2017 19:03 (six years ago) link
bugger - expected the ilm link to have the name of the thread ..
i think i admit upthread that whiney's voice review got me to listen to that record
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 20 July 2017 19:06 (six years ago) link
he even guested on...was it Young Buck's album? did a mean falsetto wail on the song he was on.
he was very gifted as a vocalist.
― Neanderthal, Thursday, 20 July 2017 19:06 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qF_qbaWt3Q
the chorus on this is so lovely
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 20 July 2017 19:07 (six years ago) link
me too.
― mark e, Thursday, 20 July 2017 19:08 (six years ago) link
Yeah, Turrican's post is spot on.
― afriendlypioneer, Thursday, 20 July 2017 19:08 (six years ago) link
RIP. immensely important band to me as a teenager.
― Mordy, Thursday, 20 July 2017 19:09 (six years ago) link
also as was endlessly reiterated upthread, "faint" fucking slaps
― ToddBonzalez (BradNelson), Thursday, 20 July 2017 19:10 (six years ago) link
yeah faint rules
i really liked the remix album they put out in 2002
― flappy bird, Thursday, 20 July 2017 19:13 (six years ago) link
yeah that was the one that caused me to go from disliking the band to "well, maybe they have some good ideas"
I remember hearing singles from Minutes to Midnight and 1000 Suns later on and thinking they were really quite good, though I imagine many of their fans must've felt let down. always meant to get those albums eventually....
― frogbs, Thursday, 20 July 2017 19:14 (six years ago) link
Part of the genius of Linkin Park is that, through their accessibility, they ended up speaking to people who may have been put off by relatively less accessible Korn and Slipknot, and may even have acted as a gateway to those bands.
The slickness of their productions were derided by some, particularly by the "keep it real" brigade... but it's kinda like Def Leppard's Hysteria... the slickness is part of the point!
― The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Thursday, 20 July 2017 19:24 (six years ago) link
They also, unusually for a metal band, had really great pop instincts and understood the craft of pop - look at their first two records, everything is short and snappy! One could say that Hybrid Theory was an incredibly calculated record... and of course it was! But those Michael Jackson blockbusters like Thriller were calculated in the same way, and the reason they work is because they knew what they were doing. If everyone could do it, everyone would be doing it.
― The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Thursday, 20 July 2017 19:28 (six years ago) link
I remember Bennington getting a lot of stick from metal purists back in the day, but looking back what was he meant to do? Pretend he couldn't sing?
I also remember people saying it was all fake anger/fake depression etc. etc. and, well...
― The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Thursday, 20 July 2017 19:31 (six years ago) link
Turrican otm
― Mordy, Thursday, 20 July 2017 19:31 (six years ago) link
otm
― down that brown path (Spottie), Thursday, 20 July 2017 19:37 (six years ago) link
I'm listening to Meteora now and you can pretty much hear the effort that went into its production - and I'd be willing to bet they threw out far more material than what features on the record, and the album is the absolute best of everything they could have come up with at the time.
― The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Thursday, 20 July 2017 19:41 (six years ago) link
I've always liked the big Linkin Park singles; I've also always liked Chester's voice. RIP
― this iphone speaks many languages (DJP), Thursday, 20 July 2017 19:41 (six years ago) link
Wait, what? Wow. I saw them perform once or twice, were always solid.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 20 July 2017 19:45 (six years ago) link
I never had any time for LP either, but I saw Chester singing a version of Mountain Song (on Youtube) with the celeb covers band Camp Freddy and he sang it as perfectly as a shiny new penny, and it's not a very easy song, but he did it with pretty much every nuance laid out, and I realised that he probably had exceptional range and tonality. So I looked a couple of interviews and was heartened to see he was a genuinely nice man too. So sad.
― MaresNest, Thursday, 20 July 2017 20:24 (six years ago) link
boy Faint is a great song.
― Van Horn Street, Thursday, 20 July 2017 20:56 (six years ago) link
Seeing way too many people couch their posts or thoughts with "not that I care about their music anymore" or "before I knew what 'good music' was..." Linkin Park were good. There is no such thing as a guilty pleasure.
Petty squabbles over sad news...
― flappy bird, Thursday, 20 July 2017 21:06 (six years ago) link
easily imo
― Spottie, Monday, 14 December 2020 19:29 (three years ago) link
Sitting in an empty roomTrying to forget the pastThis was never meant to lastI wish it wasn't soI know what it takes to move onI know how it feels to lieAll I wanna doIs trade this life for something newHolding on to what I haven't got
:(
― Spottie, Monday, 14 December 2020 19:31 (three years ago) link
pretty amused by this revive. Linkin Park was the one band I left a party over because I couldn't fucking stand them. I thought Chester's voice was like nails on a chalkboard. much like you folks I've started to appreciate them later in life as I've realized how pitch-perfect some of their stuff is. I actually had a phase (right before his death) where I really wanted to get into them but I don't really find their full albums too satisfying.
― frogbs, Monday, 14 December 2020 20:02 (three years ago) link
similar trajectory, but as someone who also made fun of them the first time around, shinoda's work on the raid: redemption is what made it click for me. his music + action setpieces like this one is such an absolutely perfect union -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmT5qUx1GZ8
― (⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Monday, 14 December 2020 23:39 (three years ago) link
huh, so i think i really have been judging one more light too harshly. it wasn't what i wanted them to do at all, but some of the songs are pretty good anyway? living things meanwhile seems like the real bottom of the discography, a few great songs but they mostly sound deflated and uninspired
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 15 December 2020 06:26 (three years ago) link
lmao the hunting party is so fucking good!!!!
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 16:30 (three years ago) link
"until it's gone" is even a better version of what they were going for on most of living things. albeit the production is worse
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 16:46 (three years ago) link
The title The Hunting Party is a contextual metaphor: Linkin Park is the party that is hunting to bring back the energy and soul of rock.
― groovemaaan, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 16:48 (three years ago) link
lol
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 19:35 (three years ago) link
i had never heard reanimation before! it... rules?
the remix of "pushing me away" has a better chorus than the actual song!
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 16 December 2020 19:37 (three years ago) link
such a great remix album.
― mark e, Wednesday, 16 December 2020 19:44 (three years ago) link
welp, realizing meteora is one of my favorite albums of all time
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 05:32 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BMe_UP5R9I
great show, a few extended/rearranged intros for some of the classic songs, incredible energy. chester's voice is def tour-strained and he hits pretty much every note anyway
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 5 January 2021 19:57 (three years ago) link
the nin cover is straightforward but it fuckin' goes
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Tuesday, 5 January 2021 20:38 (three years ago) link