even if it does sounds like it's named after an STD
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:10 (eleven years ago) link
it sounds like an outtake from So
― I see you, Pineapple Teef (DJP), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:11 (eleven years ago) link
these are my top 5 k michelle joints
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sH21KcQzI1M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlCMetckhu8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xi1mhFQjhu8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1exXltbeIW4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRF6inHDMlc
― bitch I'm on the 242 (lex pretend), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:13 (eleven years ago) link
"stimela" is the zulu word for locomotive
― bitch I'm on the 242 (lex pretend), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:14 (eleven years ago) link
if she would holler less and sing more, she wouldn't be so flat at the end of that performance of "Where They Do That At"
I like her voice a lot, tho
― I see you, Pineapple Teef (DJP), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:21 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, there's a just-fucking around quality to a lot of this mixtape, and at 24 tracks it is scattered by nature—definitely a mixtape, not an album—but there are a lot of gems throughout and I'm constantly in awe of her voice and her confidence. I think "Irrelevant" holds its own with most of the tracks Lex posted above, too
― Evan R, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:26 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i like "irrelevant" - it was on a previous mixtape tho
― bitch I'm on the 242 (lex pretend), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 18:30 (eleven years ago) link
That Wynter Gordon song is like listening to Dolores O'Riordan from The Cranberries try to sing Drakewave. Ugh.
― Evan R, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 20:00 (eleven years ago) link
am I more out of touch than I thought or does that comment make absolutely no sense
― I see you, Pineapple Teef (DJP), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 20:10 (eleven years ago) link
I mean, I do admit part of me was thinking "lol Wynter's backing track is a little like sped-up Frank Ocean" but how do you get any type of Cranberries vibe off of her
― I see you, Pineapple Teef (DJP), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 20:11 (eleven years ago) link
I'd say Shakira.
The track's good.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 20:20 (eleven years ago) link
xp yeah, wtf.
I didn't realize her EP was out tho. Gotta check that. "Stimela" is one of my favorite songs this year.
― chain the color of am0n (The Reverend), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 20:22 (eleven years ago) link
Could go Cranberries or Shakira, since they both since in half-yodeled Alanis Morissettisms. I went with Cranberries, because I like Cranberries less
― Evan R, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 20:23 (eleven years ago) link
by that logic you could say Jordin Sparks sounded like Dolores O'Riordan on "No Air"
― I see you, Pineapple Teef (DJP), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 20:29 (eleven years ago) link
which no one would actually say because it would be super stupid
― I see you, Pineapple Teef (DJP), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 20:30 (eleven years ago) link
nice
― Evan R, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 20:31 (eleven years ago) link
It's a lot closer to Dawn than Drake anyways.
― chain the color of am0n (The Reverend), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 20:35 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah but even the Dawn EP is closer to Drake than some ppl here want to admit
― Evan R, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 20:44 (eleven years ago) link
Guys did you know that everything in this thread is R&B and Drake is R&B ==== you are all listening to DRAKE.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 20:46 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ajKytShi_c
can we least get the correct case study up?
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 20:51 (eleven years ago) link
xp Oh come on; is that seriously what you thought I was suggesting? Do I really have to post side-by-side embeds of "Faith" and "Take Care"? Obviously the two acts share a fair amount of common influences, especially when they are both in their downtempo modes, which is often lately
― Evan R, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 20:52 (eleven years ago) link
Surely the real damning comparison is that Wynter sounds like Y Kant Tori Read (e.g. "Cool on your Island").
But I generally approve of this sound being revived.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 20:59 (eleven years ago) link
but "cool on your island" is amazing
― bitch I'm on the 242 (lex pretend), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 21:01 (eleven years ago) link
Who here hates "Take Care" for its music / general structure?
AFAIK most people dislike Drake for his voice, then his lyrics, then maybe the really really wishy-washy sonics of stuff like "Marvin's Room" (but that is the smallest group of Drake haters).
So invoking Drake as the boogeyman because an R&B tune is all emoto-house seems like missing the point of Drake hate.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 21:01 (eleven years ago) link
yeah sorry "damning" was meant to be in scare quotes. I agree!
― Tim F, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 21:02 (eleven years ago) link
anyway even a novice like me can hear the afropop foundations of "stimela", from its name to the rhythms and the ululating. this is the track it was based on, it seems
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4Bb7p9gggc
and yeah a lot of the rest of the EP is weirdly 90s female singer-songwriter alt-rock which is a GOOD THING, if surprising
― bitch I'm on the 242 (lex pretend), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 21:05 (eleven years ago) link
plenty of actual drake tracks can be made pretty good, even great, by the simple step of Removing Drake, tim otm. not that he's a particularly useful comparison for dawn (especially not "faith"! that's far more in line with that kelis rave album) or wynter (at any point really)
― bitch I'm on the 242 (lex pretend), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 21:06 (eleven years ago) link
I wasn't trying to use Drake as a pejorative. Armor On just always seemed to me like Dawn's (often smarter, deeper) spin on the same chilly sounds. There's a lot of Kanye West in there, too. She was working from a foundation that those two really popularized.
I don't mind the rest of the Wynter Gordon release—that track rtc posted is ok—"Stimela" just lays on the shrillness and Lion King mysticism way too thick for me
― Evan R, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 21:14 (eleven years ago) link
chilly electronics in r&b hardly began with drake and kanye though
― bitch I'm on the 242 (lex pretend), Tuesday, 10 July 2012 21:18 (eleven years ago) link
I know. But for better or worse they've led the current zeitgeist
― Evan R, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 21:26 (eleven years ago) link
i hear tons of '808s & heartbreaks' in dawn's record but then again i don't think that's a bad thing
drake, less so
i was also rather unimpressed w/ that wynter gordon song
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 10 July 2012 21:29 (eleven years ago) link
yeah 'giving in' is my fave track on the thing i must confess
can see where the cranners comparisons come from but that one reminds me most of when britney does it on her album cuts and i luv those
i think it's readily evident and hardly a controversial assertion that we play in a larger, greyer area than the shrillest weekend/drakephobes ever care to admit
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 21:30 (eleven years ago) link
still kinda sad that my boo wynter sold out tho :/
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 21:34 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i remember she had some bangers back in the post-flo rida days
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 10 July 2012 21:35 (eleven years ago) link
haha i was going to ask if anyone remembers her pre-fame stuff from when she was just another r&b blogfailure but having searched it turns out i have nothing less than a whole folder of 2008 demos on a old hd...? why man why??
btw wiki reveals she goes way back with d'mile who is all over various ddm stuffs
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 10 July 2012 21:43 (eleven years ago) link
inviting anyone who might know to tell me some beautiful lies about how the teairra mari mixtape's worth hearing
― r|t|c, Thursday, 12 July 2012 14:13 (eleven years ago) link
someone recommended it to be the other day, i haven't got round to it yet though
"coins" from the other year was such an underrated jam
― bitch I'm on the 242 (lex pretend), Thursday, 12 July 2012 14:17 (eleven years ago) link
*me
My underrated Teairra jam from the other year was "Body". And her turn on the "Pum Pum Shorts" remix.
okay beautiful lies time: Leaving aside "I Do Like" (exactly what you'd expect) and "Click Flash" and "Mercy" the thing done got this kind of electrik red meets journey vibe, the beyond of beyonce's "dance for you", all power sex ballads, over sung and over produced and lacking in tunes, but sort of in the best one night only way. Check "Another Round" and "Lovemaking" and "U Did That" on this tip.
― Tim F, Thursday, 12 July 2012 14:52 (eleven years ago) link
Hey R&B peeps, is there a separate thread for new classic sounding soul & R&B anywhere? Didn't wanna start one if it'd be redundant but also didn't think posting Lee Fields gorgeous "moonlight mile" cover would be appropriate here.
― to welcome jer.fairall, pie is served. (jer.fairall), Friday, 13 July 2012 19:32 (eleven years ago) link
traditionalist stuff doesn't get a ton of attention itt but it's perfectly welcome when someone does want to talk about it, in my experience
― some dude, Friday, 13 July 2012 19:36 (eleven years ago) link
I'd be interested in being exposed to more classic sounding soul. It'd be nice to hear something beyond the one obligatory retro-soul track that is now a staple of every big R&B album
― Evan R, Friday, 13 July 2012 19:53 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jzfy7aKB9oo
― to welcome jer.fairall, pie is served. (jer.fairall), Sunday, 15 July 2012 02:03 (eleven years ago) link
^dig this!
― Al S. Burr! (k3vin k.), Sunday, 15 July 2012 04:23 (eleven years ago) link
'wrong side of a love song' is freakin' amazing. actually on some hot buttered soul shit
― hardhouse banter (tpp), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 13:29 (eleven years ago) link
― to welcome jer.fairall, pie is served. (jer.fairall), Friday, July 13, 2012
Xchuckx and I talk about Lee Fields, some classic soul and current Southern soul (with the tacky sounding synths that many folks hate) over here:
Chitlin Circuit Double-entendre -filled Soul 2004 (and onward) Theodis Ealey's "Stand Up In It" is a song of the year
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 18 July 2012 14:21 (eleven years ago) link
Sometimes even tim f. will weigh in with a line-dance favorite
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 18 July 2012 14:22 (eleven years ago) link
cross-post from pop thread but this new jojo/shebib single is the shit
serious "promise" vibes
free tape store
http://soundcloud.com/futuresounds-bgr/jojo-demonstrate
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 18 July 2012 16:09 (eleven years ago) link
i was wondering lately what happened to tapestore p
― Barack 2 Chainz Obama (some dude), Wednesday, 18 July 2012 16:10 (eleven years ago) link
haha
i haven't talked to him in a bit... i should reach out. i think he's really focused on film stuff. miss him tho.
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 18 July 2012 16:11 (eleven years ago) link