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― PITILESS LIVE SHOW (DJP), Monday, 16 July 2012 17:58 (eleven years ago) link
Gravediggaz or Odd Squad
― camp lo magellan (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 16 July 2012 17:59 (eleven years ago) link
Tical gonna sweep this and prolly rightfully so
― camp lo magellan (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 16 July 2012 18:00 (eleven years ago) link
Gravediggaz for me but I strongly considered Tical
― PITILESS LIVE SHOW (DJP), Monday, 16 July 2012 18:00 (eleven years ago) link
wonder if deej or somebody can explain how the hell 2 rappers from the same city dropped albums called "resurrection" like a week apart (and in both cases only their second album!)
― some dude, Monday, 16 July 2012 18:01 (eleven years ago) link
― camp lo magellan (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, July 16, 2012 2:00 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark
nah kast is gonna win
― J0rdan S., Monday, 16 July 2012 18:03 (eleven years ago) link
don't feel super strongly about the order but this is my 1-10:
Gang Starr - Hard To EarnOutkast - SouthernplayalisticadillacmuzikCommon - ResurrectionUGK - Super Tight Redman - Dare Iz A DarksideBone Thugs-n-Harmony - Creepin On Ah Come Up EPWarren G - Regulate...G Funk Era Scarface - The DiaryMethod Man - TicalDa Brat - Funkdafied
― some dude, Monday, 16 July 2012 18:04 (eleven years ago) link
lotta good stuff here but nothing as good as Blowout Comb (which I would also rate above Ready to Die and maybe Illmatic altho I dunno that's more of a tossup)
― the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 16 July 2012 18:06 (eleven years ago) link
Tical gonna sweep this and prolly rightfully so― camp lo magellan (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, July 16, 2012 2:00 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmarknah kast is gonna win --J0rdan S.
nah kast is gonna win --J0rdan S.
Yeah, smh
― camp lo magellan (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 16 July 2012 18:07 (eleven years ago) link
lotta good stuff here but nothing as good as Blowout Comb (which I would also rate above Ready to Die and maybe Illmatic altho I dunno that's more of a tossup) --the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier)
Pretty early for challops
― camp lo magellan (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 16 July 2012 18:08 (eleven years ago) link
would also stan for:
TicalDon't Fight the Feelin'The Main IngredientSouthernplayalisticadillacmuzikAmeriKKKa's Nightmare
don't think I've ever heard the Mailman
― the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 16 July 2012 18:08 (eleven years ago) link
was this poll inspired by the gathering of the juggalos lineup
― J0rdan S., Monday, 16 July 2012 18:08 (eleven years ago) link
haha no, who's on it?
― some dude, Monday, 16 July 2012 18:09 (eleven years ago) link
i would like to think that a board that overrates Stankonia as much as ILM does would give the debut its props but i kinda doubt it
I love the first (second?) track on Blowout Comb but remember nothing else about the album
― PITILESS LIVE SHOW (DJP), Monday, 16 July 2012 18:10 (eleven years ago) link
Gravediggaz or Redman. At the time, probably Gravediggaz but I'm more likely to listen to Darkside these days.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 16 July 2012 18:10 (eleven years ago) link
seeing the Big Poppa video signalled the first time I felt disconnected from where hip hop was going. absolutely hated it. I know no one here agrees with me. it is what it is. like a lot of people in the Bay Area I spent the 90s totally ignoring the mainstream-pop-rap stuff that came out of NY.
xp
― the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 16 July 2012 18:11 (eleven years ago) link
i heard Darkside for the first time recently and was like 'oh shit, this is what i was wishing Muddy Waters sounded like'
― some dude, Monday, 16 July 2012 18:12 (eleven years ago) link
i would like to think that a board that overrates Stankonia as much as ILM does would give the debut its props but i kinda doubt it --some dude
Southernherbalisticlurkermusik
― camp lo magellan (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 16 July 2012 18:13 (eleven years ago) link
I voted Reachin' in this because I never heard Blowout Comb beyond the first track, but I am playing that first track now and wishing I'd voted the other way.
― we call him black Nev coz he's black & his names Neville (HI DERE), Friday, March 12, 2010 10:19 PM (2 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lol
― the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 16 July 2012 18:13 (eleven years ago) link
okay I just checked, it was track 1 of Blowout Comb that I adored
xp: timely repost
― PITILESS LIVE SHOW (DJP), Monday, 16 July 2012 18:13 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfzuNeVCpwg
― the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 16 July 2012 18:14 (eleven years ago) link
seeing the Big Poppa video signalled the first time I felt disconnected from where hip hop was going. absolutely hated it. I know no one here agrees with me. it is what it is. like a lot of people in the Bay Area I spent the 90s totally ignoring the mainstream-pop-rap stuff that came out of NY.xp --the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier)
xp --the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier)
No, I totally did this too! Then like four years later I realized I was being a fucking idiot
― camp lo magellan (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 16 July 2012 18:14 (eleven years ago) link
Super Tight!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUkmmQmlMlg
― duobting tuomas (m bison), Monday, 16 July 2012 18:17 (eleven years ago) link
scarface the diary
― sisilafami, Monday, 16 July 2012 18:20 (eleven years ago) link
^^^ yeah would ride for that too. Hand of the Dead Body!
― the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 16 July 2012 18:22 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkltsgNZCyg
― the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 16 July 2012 18:23 (eleven years ago) link
The Diary was weirdly disappointing for me to hear, like i'd always heard that it was THE Scarface album but i don't really enjoy it as much as The World Is Yours or at least a couple of the later LPs
― some dude, Monday, 16 July 2012 18:24 (eleven years ago) link
THIS IS CRAZY HARD
― een, Monday, 16 July 2012 18:34 (eleven years ago) link
― some dude, Monday, July 16, 2012 1:01 PM (32 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i find this almost as O_o as two albums having "comb" in the title
― een, Monday, 16 July 2012 18:35 (eleven years ago) link
the most 1994 title ever: Funky Resurrection Comb
― some dude, Monday, 16 July 2012 18:38 (eleven years ago) link
Huh I just had this high school memory come back about how there was this girl in my school who was considered something of a hip-hop talent, and I was vaguely friendly with her in the way that a high schooler can be with someone who is popular and well-liked and not a jerk. Anyway she was all into biggie at the time and I really didn't *get* biggie yet at all. But I was listening to Blowout Comb all the time, and I gave her my walkman to listen to it once, and she said it was "cute." I was kind of bummed but in retrospect yeah of course biggie is way better than blowout comb what the fuck are you even talking about shakey?!
― Will Chave (Hurting 2), Monday, 16 July 2012 18:39 (eleven years ago) link
― some dude, Monday, 16 July 2012 18:40 (eleven years ago) link
After looking at this list, it's striking just how regionally divided hip-hop was in '94. Tical aside, I think rankings will generally fluctuate wildly based on one's location in 1994. At least for that subjective part of your evaluation based on nostalgia. I mean, how many New York/Boston folks were listening to the Odd Squad, UGK, or even Outkast at the time?
NYC and Boston radio certainly wasn't giving these artists any burn. You had to be a pretty die-hard Source reader and/or have a fairly large music budget to gamble on some of these quite excellent regional releases. Most of these were not Tower/HMV listening booth material either. I realize that now we've all heard these records, but I feel like these polls are not just an objective evaluation of the best albums in a given year, but also which albums have that essential "1994-ness", or whatever the year which comes from listening to the albums in the context of their respective release year.
That said, I am not a super-frequent poster, so what do I know?
My picks:Outkast - SouthernplayalisticadillacmuzikMethod Man - TicalGravediggaz - 6 Feet DeepArtifacts - Between a Rock & A Hard PlaceThe Coup - Genocide & JuiceBone Thugs-n-Harmony - Creepin On Ah Come Up EPJeru the Damaja - The Sun Rises In The EastMC Eiht - We Come Strapped
― Playoff Starts Here (san lazaro), Monday, 16 July 2012 18:45 (eleven years ago) link
goddamn
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 16 July 2012 18:46 (eleven years ago) link
what a year
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 16 July 2012 18:47 (eleven years ago) link
I'm only 19 years old but music was definitely better back then, not like the crap they play on the radio now
― Will Chave (Hurting 2), Monday, 16 July 2012 18:47 (eleven years ago) link
shrugs
― sisilafami, Monday, 16 July 2012 18:51 (eleven years ago) link
my top ten in no order
Big Mike - Somethin' SeriousBone Thugs-n-Harmony - Creepin On Ah Come Up EPGang Starr - Hard To EarnO.C. - Word...LifeOrganized Konfusion - Stress: The Extinction AgendaOutkast - SouthernplayalisticadillacmuzikRedman - Dare Iz A DarksideScarface - The DiarySpice 1 - AmeriKKKa's NightmareUGK - Super Tight
― google deeznuts (D-40), Monday, 16 July 2012 18:53 (eleven years ago) link
my #1 is a very tough choice between gang starr & scarface
also really wanted to put the beatnuts & common in there but what can you do
― google deeznuts (D-40), Monday, 16 July 2012 18:54 (eleven years ago) link
might switch big mike out for common idk
im kind of an o.c. stan, i feel like there's no reason that it should be ahead of a few of the records i left off but i think its a great lp & underrated
― google deeznuts (D-40), Monday, 16 July 2012 18:55 (eleven years ago) link
Gravediggaz, Method Man and Organized Konfusion basically impossible to choose.
― Fig On A Plate Cart (Alex in SF), Monday, 16 July 2012 18:57 (eleven years ago) link
The Diary
― heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 16 July 2012 19:04 (eleven years ago) link
I like the beats on Blowout Comb a lot but there really isn't a whole lot going on lyrically.
― Will Chave (Hurting 2), Monday, 16 July 2012 19:06 (eleven years ago) link
Jeru is a classic too imo
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 16 July 2012 19:07 (eleven years ago) link
organized konfusion, outkast, tical, or jeru
gonna throw a vote to o.k. cuz i'm afraid no on else will
― me so fat (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Monday, 16 July 2012 19:17 (eleven years ago) link
creepin on ah come up is great too
this is all great! we used to have it so good
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 16 July 2012 19:30 (eleven years ago) link
killer mike doing metal covers of the 2nd arrested development album
― google deeznuts (D-40), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 20:03 (eleven years ago) link
ysi?
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 20:03 (eleven years ago) link
you can find it on amazon its called 'the hybrid theory'
― google deeznuts (D-40), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 20:06 (eleven years ago) link
BACK ON TOPIC yall make me embarrassed to admit the number of these I've heard... I'll just say that it's even less than my age in '94, which was seven
also found this while halfassedly attempting to pirate comb http://archive.ohword.com/features/5/slicker-that-year?pg=all
― visions of kreayshawn with joanna newsom (bernard snowy), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 20:10 (eleven years ago) link
no, aero, we definitely need more threads of people being super tolerant and understanding of white european max tundra fans calling deltron 3030 the truth.
I'm a white American Max Tundra fan -- should I check out Deltron 3030? Serious question.
― Trewster Dare (jaymc), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 20:11 (eleven years ago) link
tbf i'd heard even less until recently, thread was inspired by trying to catch up on a lot of this stuff (xpost)
jaymc there's a LOT of albums talked about itt that you should check out before Deltron 3030, that's all i'm gonna say
― nakhchi little van (some dude), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 20:12 (eleven years ago) link
Yes, but which one sounds the most like Max Tundra?
― Trewster Dare (jaymc), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 20:13 (eleven years ago) link
it feels like it is completely impossible for there to be a rap thread on ilm without people being super hardman abt shit or dragging beef from thread to thread
this is pretty standard for online discussion of hip hop on all message boards. something about the music, I guess. I mean, even Jeru and the Fugees recorded disses of each other.
― Listen to this, dad (President Keyes), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 20:13 (eleven years ago) link
Redman (xpost)
― nakhchi little van (some dude), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 20:14 (eleven years ago) link
Spice 1 - AmeriKKKa's Nightmare
― PITILESS LIVE SHOW (DJP), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 20:14 (eleven years ago) link
Deltron 3030 is terrible
― giallo shots (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 20:17 (eleven years ago) link
Btw, my girlfriend in 2001 briefly lived with a stoner dude who had a cat named Deltron. We called him Del.
― Trewster Dare (jaymc), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 20:17 (eleven years ago) link
fucking hate Automator. as deej might have said back in the day, dude is "corny"
mad corny even
― giallo shots (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 20:18 (eleven years ago) link
Oh wait, the cat's name might've just been Del -- I forgot that Deltron and Del the Funky... were the same guy.
― Trewster Dare (jaymc), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 20:19 (eleven years ago) link
del the funky tron
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 20:20 (eleven years ago) link
main ingredient deserved a vote or 2
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link
I'm not sure I have any hangups about "corny" hip-hop -- funny to me that that's a big put-down.
― Trewster Dare (jaymc), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 20:25 (eleven years ago) link
Main Ingredient > Mecca & The Soul Brother
― n00bs on my damn chain (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 20:27 (eleven years ago) link
corny is pejorative xp
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 20:29 (eleven years ago) link
*reps the corn*
― am0n, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 20:31 (eleven years ago) link
― giallo shots (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, July 25, 2012 3:17 PM (16 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
^^^Ignore "corny"; focus on this.
― cwkiii, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 20:35 (eleven years ago) link
Well, I know that, but what are the implications: it's bad because it's ... square?
― Trewster Dare (jaymc), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 20:37 (eleven years ago) link
corn·yTrite, banal, or mawkishly sentimental
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 20:38 (eleven years ago) link
i tend to use cheesy to denote 'corny but good' and 'corny' to denote 'cheesy but bad'
― google deeznuts (D-40), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link
I love Blowout Comb but didn't realize so many people here rated it, thought it was just like...me and deej and Dan.
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link
xp Cool, thx for the vocabulary tip
― Trewster Dare (jaymc), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 20:41 (eleven years ago) link
ha, well played, deej
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 20:41 (eleven years ago) link
me and deej and Dan
what am I, chopped liver?
― giallo shots (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 20:45 (eleven years ago) link
Just realized my two favorite albums on this list both start with weird, angular horn blasts
xp you're more like a foie gras
― The Reverend, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 20:46 (eleven years ago) link
not allowed in california
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 20:49 (eleven years ago) link
struggling to form some kind of Whiney:suggest-banned/foie gras:California joke
― giallo shots (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 20:50 (eleven years ago) link
Surprised Super Tight didn't get a vote.
― n00bs on my damn chain (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 20:55 (eleven years ago) link
what is whineys fav album
― lag∞n, Wednesday, July 25, 2012 3:56 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
like ever or of 1994 or rap album or on this list or
― camp lo magellan (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 21:06 (eleven years ago) link
idk just wondering re the nme v source zing upthread
― lag∞n, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 21:22 (eleven years ago) link
Gravediggaz
― camp lo magellan (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 22:02 (eleven years ago) link
iirc whiney prefers the Grave Ferris mashup album
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 22:10 (eleven years ago) link
hoping this is the point of the clusterfuck where we all start making puns
― google deeznuts (D-40), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 22:17 (eleven years ago) link
but before it devolves into accusations of custos
― google deeznuts (D-40), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 22:18 (eleven years ago) link
― n00bs on my damn chain (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 21:55 (Yesterday) Bookmark
i wavered
― Number None, Thursday, 26 July 2012 00:58 (eleven years ago) link
― lag∞n, Wednesday, July 25, 2012 5:22 PM (3 hours ago) Bookmark
lol i was referencing the list of Gravediggaz reviews YOU posted upthread
― nakhchi little van (some dude), Thursday, 26 July 2012 01:00 (eleven years ago) link
oh hah
― lag∞n, Thursday, 26 July 2012 01:36 (eleven years ago) link
I wouldn't take Source reviews as damning, they've been wrong about a lot of things.
― The Reverend, Thursday, 26 July 2012 01:49 (eleven years ago) link
oh obv their word doesn't really mean anything and anyway they gave it 3 1/2 stars. i just thought the "white european max tundra fans calling deltron 3030 the truth" line was bullshit coming from someone who picked a UK critical darling like Gravediggaz over Gang Starr/UGK/Scarface/etc.
― nakhchi little van (some dude), Thursday, 26 July 2012 01:58 (eleven years ago) link
3 1/2 stars was a good review score back then
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 26 July 2012 18:53 (eleven years ago) link
lol stars
― Dunn O)))))))) (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:16 (eleven years ago) link
haha mics sorry
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 26 July 2012 19:35 (eleven years ago) link
what u do w/half a mic
― lag∞n, Thursday, 26 July 2012 20:31 (eleven years ago) link
all i need is one half mic
― am0n, Thursday, 26 July 2012 20:35 (eleven years ago) link
― lag∞n, Thursday, 26 July 2012 22:00 (eleven years ago) link