It's a great song for anyone else, but subpar for THE MAC
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, July 24, 2012 1:48 PM (50 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i've always felt that if "don't stop" was a lite thin lizzy song, i'd be fine with it. but it's so out of place on rumours. i've been warming up to it tho
― NASCAR, surfing, raising chickens, owning land (zachlyon), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 19:00 (eleven years ago) link
Speaking of crying, I was reading last week how upset Stevie was during that photo shoot at LB and the photographer getting her out of her shirt.
Didn't she spend their food money for the week on the blouse she wanted to wear for the shoot?
― Jeremy Spencer Slid in Class Today (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 19:02 (eleven years ago) link
i've always felt that if "don't stop" was a lite thin lizzy song
My mind just came dangerously close to exploding
― Clarke B., Tuesday, 24 July 2012 19:03 (eleven years ago) link
It's still shocking to me that Buckingham/Nicks has never been released on CD.
― Clarke B., Tuesday, 24 July 2012 19:04 (eleven years ago) link
Everything I've ever read about it not being on cd has to do with Buckingham being a perfectionist and blocking its release until he can tinker with the mix a lot.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 19:08 (eleven years ago) link
(and he's not in a hurry to do so)
He's waiting for Neil Young to reissue Time Fades Away.
― Jeremy Spencer Slid in Class Today (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 19:11 (eleven years ago) link
Last one for today...
"Sentimental Lady" (Bob Welch, 1972): 123 points, 5 votes
http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/29752967/Bob+Welch.jpg
Track link: http://youtu.be/HvCUJgnVg3o
― Clarke B., Tuesday, 24 July 2012 19:20 (eleven years ago) link
Whoops... With ranking:
#41: "Sentimental Lady" (Bob Welch, 1972): 123 points, 5 votes
― Clarke B., Tuesday, 24 July 2012 19:21 (eleven years ago) link
This is as good a time as any to point out that Mick Fleetwood's autobio is MANDATORY READING. So fucking good.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link
To recap so far:
#60: "Sands of Time" (Danny Kirwan, 1971) - 57 points, 3 votes#59: "Dragonfly" (Danny Kirwan, 1971) - 62 points, 3 votes#58: "Blue Letter" (Richard & Michael Curtis, 1975) - 63 points, 4 votes#57: "Warm Ways" (Christine McVie, 1975) - 70 points, 3 votes#56: "That's Enough For Me" (Lindsey Buckingham, 1979) - 70 points, 3 votes#55: "Coming Your Way" (Danny Kirwan, 1969) - 71 points, 4 votes#54: "Seven Wonders" (Sandy Stewart, 1987) - 76 points, 4 votes#53: "Sisters of the Moon" (Stevie Nicks, 1979) - 76 points, 4 votes#52: "Show Me a Smile" (Christine McVie, 1971) - 87 points, 3 votes, 1 number one vote#51: "Not That Funny" (Lindsey Buckingham, 1979) - 87 points, 5 votes#50: "I'm So Afraid" (Lindsey Buckingham, 1975) - 90 points, 4 votes#49: "Keep On Going" (Bob Welch, 1973) - 96 points, 4 votes#48: "Spare Me a Little of Your Love" (Christine McVie, 1972) - 102 points, 4 votes#47: "Monday Morning" (Lindsey Buckingham, 1975) - 109 points, 5 votes#46: "Book of Love" (Lindsey Buckingham, 1982) - 109 points, 5 votes#45: "Don't Stop" (Christine McVie, 1977) - 111 points, 6 votes#44: "Woman of 1000 Years" (Danny Kirwan, 1971) - 113 points, 6 votes#43: "Dust" (Danny Kirwan, 1972) - 114 points, 4 votes, 2 number one votes#42: "Crystal" (Stevie Nicks, 1975) - 117 points, 6 votes#41: "Sentimental Lady" (Bob Welch, 1972): 123 points, 5 votes
― Clarke B., Tuesday, 24 July 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, July 24, 2012 3:23 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Really good to know...
― Clarke B., Tuesday, 24 July 2012 19:28 (eleven years ago) link
well after my last min bumping of sisters... i have a grand total of zero so far. suppose that's not really surprising as i didn't vote for anything pre-rumours. feel like i should prob check some of this danny kirwan dude out tho.
― second only to popcorn (or something), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 19:32 (eleven years ago) link
Good lord, that Mac version of Sentimental Lady is a rhythm section WORKOUT. Deserves to be higher.
― Three Word Username, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 19:40 (eleven years ago) link
Bottom 20:
Kirwan: 5C. McVie: 4Welch: 2Buckingham: 5Nicks: 2Other: 2
That actually seems about right, except for Green...
― dlp9001, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 19:41 (eleven years ago) link
Go Kirwain!
― windjammer voyage (blank), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 19:42 (eleven years ago) link
what has danny kirwan been up to for the past 35 years anyhow?
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 19:45 (eleven years ago) link
mental problems, alcoholism, homelessness
― buzza, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 19:50 (eleven years ago) link
Pretty much the same thing Syd Barrett was up to until he died, though maybe not quite as nice...
― dlp9001, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 19:50 (eleven years ago) link
:-(
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 19:50 (eleven years ago) link
If you're going to go nuts in a Hall Of Fame band, make sure it's Pink Floyd and not Fleetwood Mac...
― dlp9001, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 19:51 (eleven years ago) link
― Clarke B., Tuesday, July 24, 2012 2:28 PM (21 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I started reading this last year, and he's been sitting there, staring at me with his big crazy eyes, waiting for me to get around to finishing ever since. This poll has been nagging me towards picking it up again. He had just met John McVie when I stopped reading, though, so I'm yet to get to the interesting stuff (early chapters of bios are always a chore for me). The poem his dad wrote about him is worth reading, though.
― cwkiii, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 19:55 (eleven years ago) link
w.r.t. "Sentimental Lady":
This song appears in the movie Grown Ups, and Maya Rudolph describes this as the "whitest song ever".[citation needed]
― queequeg (peter grasswich), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 20:04 (eleven years ago) link
I read it either when I was still in high school or shortly thereafter, so...about 20 years ago. I just bought a copy on ebay to read it again.
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 20:10 (eleven years ago) link
voted for both 'spare me a little of your love' (my #4) and 'blue letter' (my #12) out of todays jamz
going to make a p sweet playlist i think
― Lamp, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 20:39 (eleven years ago) link
i freaking love spare me a little. would made my top 5 and it coulda/shoulda been a smash
― making plans for nyquil (outdoor_miner), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 20:49 (eleven years ago) link
So sad about Kirwan... From Wikipedia: 'Kirwan shouldered much of the songwriting responsibility during this troubled and uncertain period for the band, through the changes in both the line-up and in musical style. The pressure showed in his health and he suffered problems with alcoholism; stories abound of Kirwan not eating for several days at a time, subsisting largely on beer. He gradually became estranged from the other band members, and things came to a head during the autumn of 1972. Before a concert on that year's US tour, Kirwan and Welch rowed over tuning and Kirwan flew into a rage, smashing his guitar and refusing to go onstage. Instead he watched while the rest of the band struggled through without him, and offered unwelcome criticism afterwards. Kirwan had to be sacked by Fleetwood, who had hitherto been the only other member still speaking to him. Fleetwood later said: "It was a torment for him, really, to be up there, and it reduced him to someone who you just looked at and thought 'My God'. It was more a thing of, although he was asked to leave, the way I was looking at it was, I hoped, it was almost putting him out of his agony."'
― Clarke B., Tuesday, 24 July 2012 20:57 (eleven years ago) link
This is as good a time as any to point out that Mick Fleetwood's autobio is MANDATORY READING. So fucking good. - i've heard otherwise!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6IXCBWlh4c
― balls, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 23:36 (eleven years ago) link
It's a pretty good work of fiction.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 23:37 (eleven years ago) link
i enjoyed mick's book quite a lot, but then i am equally excited about reading ken caillat's book too
― derek and cliiv (electricsound), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 23:44 (eleven years ago) link
yeah! that's on my list. has anyone here read it?
― how's life, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 23:47 (eleven years ago) link
I read a good chunk at a bookstore a few weeks ago: good stories about Buck at the mixing desk.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 23:49 (eleven years ago) link
Speaking of Buck at the mixing desk, this clip is amusing to me because I didn't really expect Lindsey to sound so dweeby. Tho it helped make sense of a lot of things, really.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TElW2xIEfFI
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 13:07 (eleven years ago) link
Also makes me sad that Mark Ruffalo is already too old to play Lindsey in a should-have-been HBO docudrama about the making of Rumors.
The Caillat book is quite good. The impression is of a really odd bunch of ppl, working quite hard, and getting to grips with increasing success.
Lindsey, in particular, seems a piece of work.
― mr.raffles, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 13:11 (eleven years ago) link
OMG
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 13:25 (eleven years ago) link
Y'all ready for this?
― Clarke B., Wednesday, 25 July 2012 13:26 (eleven years ago) link
COMMENCE TOP 40...
#40: "I Don't Want to Know" (Nicks, 1977)
http://www.virginmedia.com/images/spinal-tap-fleetwood-mac-431x300.jpg
Track link: http://youtu.be/Og7msZ0wuZ8
― Clarke B., Wednesday, 25 July 2012 13:29 (eleven years ago) link
Let me complete that thought... (I'm still undercaffeinated.)
#40: "I Don't Want to Know" (Nicks, 1977) - 124 points, 6 votes
― Clarke B., Wednesday, 25 July 2012 13:30 (eleven years ago) link
God, Mick is the freakiest looking fucker!
― Clarke B., Wednesday, 25 July 2012 13:31 (eleven years ago) link
apparently these guys didn't believe in bathing more than once a week
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 13:32 (eleven years ago) link
xp: although Christine is giving him a run for his money in this pic. wow.
― how's life, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 13:33 (eleven years ago) link
"I Don't Want to Know" sounds like it could have come straight off of Buckingham/Nicks (except for the superior rhythm section)...
― Clarke B., Wednesday, 25 July 2012 13:37 (eleven years ago) link
Found thisinterview with Danny Kirwan from 1997.
The interviewer had this to say in 2000:
Good news: I met Danny's ex-wife Clare recently who kindly helped me with liner notes for a Kirwan compilation called 'Ram Jam City' which Mooncrest recently released. Danny turned 50 this May and Clare showed me photos taken of him on his birthday.I was really pleased to notice him looking a lot fitter than was the case five years ago when I interviewed him. His hair is now short and he looks stronger and more together. Best news of all, perhaps, is that he keeps a guitar in his room and plays quite often for his own pleasure. He remains a very private person who keeps himself to himself and is nicely settled in the care centre where he's been for some time now.I know that some of his many well-wishers took to the idea of Danny possibly moving to Eric Clapton's Crossroads centre in Antigua for treatment: whilst this may be a poignant notion as a modern story of the blues, in reality his family feel that he is far better off staying where he is. Obviously they know what's best and isn't it great to know that music still is there in Danny's day-to-day life.
He remains a very private person who keeps himself to himself and is nicely settled in the care centre where he's been for some time now.
I know that some of his many well-wishers took to the idea of Danny possibly moving to Eric Clapton's Crossroads centre in Antigua for treatment: whilst this may be a poignant notion as a modern story of the blues, in reality his family feel that he is far better off staying where he is. Obviously they know what's best and isn't it great to know that music still is there in Danny's day-to-day life.
― cwkiii, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 13:41 (eleven years ago) link
Is that the lowest Rumours cut?
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 13:43 (eleven years ago) link
'Don' t Stop appeared earlier.
― fun loving and xtremely tolrant (Billy Dods), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 13:47 (eleven years ago) link
#39: "Songbird" (McVie, 1977) - 133 points, 8 votes
http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/500/30542393/Christine+McVie.jpg
Track link: http://youtu.be/C_JdKJQPS9I
― Clarke B., Wednesday, 25 July 2012 13:52 (eleven years ago) link
How did Christine keep her voice so luscious and pure when it seems that every pic I find of her online includes a cig?
― Clarke B., Wednesday, 25 July 2012 13:53 (eleven years ago) link
Also, this is one of my least favorite Mac songs... This is the kind of song I immediately think of when I read this quote from yesterday:
I think "Don't Stop" is just kind of treacly and simpleminded in sentiment and lyric, and was surprised to find myself thinking that about most of Christine's songs as I went through the catalogue. Coming into this poll, I would have ranked LB >> CM >> SN, but now I'd put Stevie ahead of Christine because her songs don't reduce down to swoony Moon-June-Spoon platitudes and cliches -- at least not as often. #stonetheheretic
― Neil Jung (WmC), Tuesday, July 24, 2012 2:06 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Clarke B., Wednesday, 25 July 2012 13:55 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, that's one of the songs I had in mind when I wrote that.
― Neil Jung (WmC), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 14:00 (eleven years ago) link