Please talk about: "Buffalo Stance" by Neneh Cherry

yeah I realize that, it just sounds like a Thing album with vocals to me

probably depends on whether you're more a fan of one vs. the other. sounds like a neneh cherry album with jazz backing to me.

It's not "her" new album, it's an album by The Thing with her as guest vocalist.

the aggressiveness of your ownership claim on their behalf (over "her") is weird tho

sounds like a neneh cherry album with jazz backing to me.

same, though i'm sure this is because i've been a neneh cherry fan for my entire life, pretty much, and had never heard of the thing before this year. but even so i can't see how you can't hear her personality stamped all over it.

THEIR new album then, anagram.

Either way, it's hot. :)

i am generally in favor of out music finding a way in. the thing is not really all that far out there, but i imagine that people think they are (or don't even want to give them a chance), and now that they've heard the thing as n cherry's backup band they might be more likely to consider listening to other stuff they've done.
good for the thing!

i've said this elsewhere but i'm really looking fwd to properly getting into jazz when i'm too old to go clubbing. and i LOVE what the thing do on this album, i love how their music and neneh's vocals mirror each other w/r/t the wildness/control tension.

i suspect la lechera intended to write "our" but i like the idea of "out" as an abbrev of "outré"

i always want to think that she's saying "harmolodics" at the beginning of buffalo stance.

no, i totally meant out music -- music that is not in! it's out there. :)

No, I'm sure she meant "out" as in "way out"

xxp!

i like that usage too!

http://dangerousminds.net/images/uploads/The_In_Sound_From_Way_Out.jpg

"Kisses on the Wind" is SO FUCKING GOOD!!!

I have never heard this before!!

I said on fb that the super bring piano reminds me of something you'd hear in a really euphoric 15 second outro, except it's all over the whole song.

I have never heard this before!!

― ICANN Tina Turner (Stevie D(eux))

can't really get my head around this!

The only other track better than "Kisses on the Wind" is "Heart" ("Buffalo Stance" is a world apart).

xp it was never that big over here! She's kinda regarded as a one-hit wonder for "Buffalo Stance". I only heard "Kisses" it when I took the time to listen to Raw Like Sushi on Spotify last night.

"Kisses" went top ten in America, but it's true I never hear it.

fcuking jamie oliver seems to have adopted this as his theme tune now, a delete from playlist moment if there ever was one...

fucking jamie oliver. What is he LIKE

The "Kisses on the Wind" single is worth getting if you like it. It has an extended version of the tune, a nice Latin house remix of it by David Morales, plus a semi-acoustic non-album B side.

Damn. Raw Like Sushi is magnificent. I don't think I've heard it for about 20 years but it sounds great this afternoon. I don't think its acknowledged as a "great album" (wtf is that/rockist etc?) but why not? All kinds of beautiful Madonna/psb/Public Enemy awesome all over it. Cherry is so charismatic and I love her. Very very much. Gonna check out Homebrew now - never heard it.

HEART. HEART. YOU CAN'T BREAK MY HEART.

https://soundcloud.com/neneh-cherry/neneh-cherry-afrika-baby-bam

new track produced by four tet, neneh in beat poet mode. Not sure what I think of it yet :-\

INTO THIS! https://soundcloud.com/neneh-cherry

this is really great stuff - seems to carry on where neneh left off with the cherry thing

four tet coming into his own as producer for other people, huh

way more RN9 than four tet imo

Up for hearing this, the cherry thing was my favourite album of last year

Love it. Reminding me of subdued Breakbeat Era vibes.

https://soundcloud.com/smalltownsupersound/neneh-cherry-out-of-the-6

at least some of neneh cherry's comeback album is streaming on npr now.

I love this new album. One of the best records I've heard in a while.

impressed on one listen, def picking up where the cherry thing left off...

the joe goddard remix of "out of the black" is amazing too

impressed on one listen, def picking up where the cherry thing left off...

― lex pretend, Friday, February 21, 2014

yeah, there's a jazzy quality to it. mostly i notice that it's almost all percussion. it's a great sounding album, and the tunes seem very strong.

a stunning new album. her voice is as expressive as ever. given that she is soon turning 50, that is absolutely not self-evident. here is a great video of her performing the title song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LesJtqP-x0

Got this in the mail yesterday, and it's pretty good. I'm not hearing much jazz in this though, the sound is more "rock" to me, perhaps a bit too rock with all the distorted sounds. The percussion is cool, yeah, but I still wish she'd just done a pure electronic album with the Four Tet dude. The Cherry Thing was a really cool "live instruments" kind of album, but it was carried by the strength of the band, and I don't think the backing band here (whoever this Rocketnumbernine people are, I'm not familiar with them) have the same intensity. Neneh's vocals are the biggest strength; I think her range has always been a bit narrow, but she's found a way to unique expressiveness and intensity within that range - I can't think of anyone who'd sing like this.

"Out of the Black" impressed me; she can still project quietude over ominous beats.

weird that Rocketnumbernine isn't even mentioned in some of these reviews (like pfork)...obviously Four Tet is the famous one, but seems like he's more or less just overseeing things here.

kind of a similar situation to the Omar Souleyman album where people were like "oh yeah, love Four Tet's production" when his stated aim was to be as hands off as possible. Whatever gets these things the publicity I guess

the two jobs are not comparable imo. from what i've read his work on the souleyman album involved sending files to and fro while he was fysically working together with neneh & rn9 for about a week on her album.

fair enough, but from the interviews I've read with Neneh she said his job was more taking away things than adding them. It's definitely more of a collaboration but surely rocketnumbernine should be getting most of the credit for the music on the album

Four Tet ‏@FourTet 3m
anyone writing about my production on the Neneh LP that doesn't acknowledge RocketNumberNine is an amateur.

wait there are still professional music writers?

fair enough, but from the interviews I've read with Neneh she said his job was more taking away things than adding them. It's definitely more of a collaboration but surely rocketnumbernine should be getting most of the credit for the music on the album

Or maybe, instead of arguing whether this or that dude should get the "most" credit for the album, that credit should go to Neneh Cherry? The liner notes only say that Four Tet produced the album and Rocketnumbernine played the instruments, but since the actual instrumentation on it is really sparse, who knows who made the biggest contribution to it? The fact that it doesn't sound too dissimilar from Cherry's previous music should maybe give us a hint?

Sorry if I'm sounding a bit sour here, but I don't really like the phenomenon that when a woman releases a solo album, music writers are often trying to find the man who's the "real" genius behind it. The same thing happened with the Barbara Panther album, some people were praising Matthew Herbert as if he was the main visionary, even though it seems the songs on it had already been written and demoed by Panther before Herbert even joined the project.

is the bias really based on gender, or on the idea of pop-acts (as opposed to, say, rock acts) not really being the driving-force behind the music?

go read the Warpaint thread, where discussion of the new album turned into a celebration of Flood and Chris Cunningham

Cool your jets Tuomas, I was in no way trying to take credit away from Neneh. The point that was raised is that RocketNumberNine are not mentioned once in the Pitchfork review, which considering they played all the music is fairly stupid

go read the Warpaint thread, where discussion of the new album turned into a celebration of Flood and Chris Cunningham

― sent as gassed to onto rt dominance (DJP), Monday, February 24, 2014 1:00 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

that's bullshit at least on my part i brought up flood because i was surprised the album worked IN SPITE of the high profile producers

idk who chris cunningham is.

no was was even saying that shit until k8 started in with her schtick...

this new neneh album is great

the thing album was great too!