best 1994 rap album besides Illmatic and Ready To Die

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visions of kreayshawn with joanna newsom (bernard snowy), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 17:25 (eleven years ago) link

up until this moment I always thought that album was called Zingalamundi

If you asked me before now what this album was called, I would've told you Zingalangamundi.

Lots of script-flippers on this list.

Earth, Wind & Fire & Alabama (Eazy), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 17:27 (eleven years ago) link

i'm just saying that self-aware rappers isn't some gateway drug into kitty pryde or nothin

camp lo magellan (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 17:31 (eleven years ago) link

gravediggaz is good but i've never understood ppl on ILX rating it so highly.

― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, July 25, 2012 11:53 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

they like menacing rappers to be as cartoony& self aware as possible?

― google deeznuts (D-40), Wednesday, July 25, 2012 12:54 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol, tell us more about your views on the perfect authentic black entertainer. self-awareness is only for elvis costello, after all

― camp lo magellan (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, July 25, 2012 12:18 PM (17 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

really puzzling how u got from point 'a' to 'b' on this one.

google deeznuts (D-40), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 17:37 (eleven years ago) link

i mean yeah that totally ruins it for me

it's not supposed to "ruin" anything it's just a way of talking about music

tallarico dreams (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 17:38 (eleven years ago) link

xpost to whiney: ya okay point taken. still kind of a silly double-strawman situation, on some two-siris-talking-to-each-other shit

But I just spat coffee over yr DN, so all is forgiven

visions of kreayshawn with joanna newsom (bernard snowy), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 17:39 (eleven years ago) link

GRΔVVΞ○DIGGΔZ

Lamp, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 17:40 (eleven years ago) link

"it's just a way of talking about music"

nah it's bullshit

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 17:43 (eleven years ago) link

fwiw i like that the gravediggaz are self aware, raider klan would be better if they had more self awareness for a contemporary parallel (no i dont think they're nearly as good as gravediggaz) i just meant that it was that factor that made them the landslide winners in this poll

google deeznuts (D-40), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 17:44 (eleven years ago) link

imo blowout comb is obv made in a universe where they are very aware of low end theory but its not even close to biting it.

google deeznuts (D-40), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 17:44 (eleven years ago) link

I think the appeal of Gravediggaz is pretty obvious. Not just of the music, but of the musical object. Obscure (I know it's not THAT obscure, but relative to Wu- stricto sensu) camp classic by which tru obsessives (i.e. ILM posters/lurkers) distinguish themselves from the casual fans.

Would be v.interested in the results of a "how many of the albums from this list have you heard" poll

visions of kreayshawn with joanna newsom (bernard snowy), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 17:49 (eleven years ago) link

I count 12 but I may be forgetting a few I heard when they came out and promptly never listened to again

giallo shots (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 17:51 (eleven years ago) link

21; all of the vote getters except the PE, Heavy D, and Rappin 4tay

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 17:53 (eleven years ago) link

I think you would really dig Blowout Comb tbh, esp since you dig The Low End Theory

― PITILESS LIVE SHOW (DJP), Wednesday, July 25, 2012 10:49 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

tbf some dude ignores 99% of recommendations

― google deeznuts (D-40), Wednesday, July 25, 2012 12:54 PM (54 minutes ago) Bookmark

i would like to be so self-possessed that i somehow have listened to thousands of albums without ever heeding someone else's words but i dunno how that's possible actually

nakhchi little van (some dude), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 17:53 (eleven years ago) link

28

camp lo magellan (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 17:55 (eleven years ago) link

15 (13 before the poll) but i'm pretty herbish

Number None, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 17:56 (eleven years ago) link

i would like to be so self-possessed that i somehow have listened to thousands of albums without ever heeding someone else's words but i dunno how that's possible actually

― nakhchi little van (some dude), Wednesday, July 25, 2012 12:53 PM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah except i've recommended & watched people recommend this album on ilx over & over & youve ignored us so far, why stop now

google deeznuts (D-40), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 18:08 (eleven years ago) link

ive heard 40 or 41

google deeznuts (D-40), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 18:10 (eleven years ago) link

i was pretty forthright upthread about why I've avoided Digable Planets for years and years, not in a proud way but just saying that's my baggage

nakhchi little van (some dude), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 18:11 (eleven years ago) link

can we have a new board called I Love Rap But I Don't Have to Be A Dick About It for like, you know, the rest of us

tallarico dreams (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 18:46 (eleven years ago) link

was i being a dick? sorry man, i thought i was just trying to be honest about my hangups

nakhchi little van (some dude), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 18:47 (eleven years ago) link

eh I'm probably just cranky, it feels like it is completely impossible for there to be a rap thread on ilm without people being super hardman abt shit or dragging beef from thread to thread - wasn't responding to yr post directly fwiw

tallarico dreams (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 18:49 (eleven years ago) link

aero OTM sadly

giallo shots (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 18:49 (eleven years ago) link

still pissed there wasn't a 3rd X-Clan album in '94 btw

tallarico dreams (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 18:53 (eleven years ago) link

Brat and Bone Thugs 94 convo over here.

Earth, Wind & Fire & Alabama (Eazy), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 18:55 (eleven years ago) link

i thought this thread has had really the bare minimum of nastiness given the subject matter but maybe my perspective is out of wack?

nakhchi little van (some dude), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 18:57 (eleven years ago) link

it feels like it is completely impossible for there to be a rap thread on ilm without people being super hardman abt shit or dragging beef from thread to thread - wasn't responding to yr post directly fwiw

― tallarico dreams (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, July 25, 2012 2:49 PM (11 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

this is the best thing about rap threads on ilx tbh

camp lo magellan (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 19:01 (eleven years ago) link

nas v. jay-z

am0n, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 19:01 (eleven years ago) link

no, aero, we definitely need more threads of people being super tolerant and understanding of white european max tundra fans calling deltron 3030 the truth.

camp lo magellan (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 19:02 (eleven years ago) link

link?

lag∞n, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 19:03 (eleven years ago) link

dude whose fav album was ranked higher by NME than The Source coming down hard on the borks

nakhchi little van (some dude), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 19:05 (eleven years ago) link

super hardman, beef lover loves super hardman beefy threads, film at 11

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 19:05 (eleven years ago) link

just humblin' herbs

Number None, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 19:06 (eleven years ago) link

every time I come onto these threads I feel like I'm talking to 20 Michael Rapaports

PITILESS LIVE SHOW (DJP), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 19:07 (eleven years ago) link

this is the best thing about rap threads on ilx tbh

yes Whines I know. your favorite thing is everybody being aggro to each other. I'm just registering a complaint, fear not old boy, as long as you're around to help ruin every rap thread there's little risk of any fun to be had for people who don't consider shooting rubber bands in class an elevated form of discourse

tallarico dreams (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 19:08 (eleven years ago) link

for w/e reason the last few posts have been v funny imo

google deeznuts (D-40), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 19:09 (eleven years ago) link

good morning, and welcome to
THE RAP REPORT
starring 20 Michael Rapaports

visions of kreayshawn with joanna newsom (bernard snowy), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 19:11 (eleven years ago) link

M-Rap's Tribe documentary was pretty good tho

Number None, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 19:12 (eleven years ago) link

if not for Zebrahead we might not have Illmatic so all due respect to Agent Rappin'port

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8i2K5bF1aXI

nakhchi little van (some dude), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 19:15 (eleven years ago) link

dude whose fav album was ranked higher by NME than The Source coming down hard on the borks

― nakhchi little van (some dude), Wednesday, July 25, 2012 3:05 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

dude whose https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVpv8-5XWOI

camp lo magellan (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 19:16 (eleven years ago) link

M-Rap's Tribe documentary was pretty good tho

dude is obviously terrible but yeah movie was awes

giallo shots (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link

I am a terrible Tribe fan, I still haven't seen it

PITILESS LIVE SHOW (DJP), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 19:24 (eleven years ago) link

when mouthbreathers on twitter try to shoot you down with LOL YOU LIKE LINKIN PARK do you go "wow that perceptive argument shut me up, i oughta use that strategy sometime, airtight" (xpost)

nakhchi little van (some dude), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 19:24 (eleven years ago) link

oh joy this again

giallo shots (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 19:25 (eleven years ago) link

why are you searching out and cataloging my posts

camp lo magellan (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 19:33 (eleven years ago) link

lol

nakhchi little van (some dude), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 19:36 (eleven years ago) link

gravediggaz is good but i've never understood ppl on ILX rating it so highly.

― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, July 25, 2012 11:53 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

they like menacing rappers to be as cartoony& self aware as possible?

― google deeznuts (D-40), Wednesday, July 25, 2012 12:54 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

or maybe its really good music, two of the best producers at the top of their games, dope rappers having fun idk

― lag∞n, Wednesday, July 25, 2012 9:57 AM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i love 6 ft deep, i don't think it's cartoony all of the time, though i feel like it's using horror film style to describe the most horrific aspects of real life as they see it, like some of the stuff they're covering is fantasy and some of it is pretty real. it's not like it's a mr dead album.

omar little, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 19:46 (eleven years ago) link

when mouthbreathers on twitter try to shoot you down with LOL YOU LIKE LINKIN PARK do you go "wow that perceptive argument shut me up, i oughta use that strategy sometime, airtight" (xpost)

― nakhchi little van (some dude), Wednesday, July 25, 2012 2:24 PM (22 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

guys you BOTH like terrible rock music

google deeznuts (D-40), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 19:48 (eleven years ago) link

i know! should be a uniting factor, not a dividing one!

nakhchi little van (some dude), Wednesday, 25 July 2012 19:49 (eleven years ago) link

what is whineys fav album

lag∞n, Wednesday, 25 July 2012 19:56 (eleven years ago) link


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