― -+-+-+++- (ooo), Thursday, 11 May 2006 16:48 (eighteen years ago) link
― -+-+-+++- (ooo), Thursday, 11 May 2006 16:49 (eighteen years ago) link
― -+-+-+++- (ooo), Thursday, 11 May 2006 16:50 (eighteen years ago) link
utter bullshit. and there isn't a "female answer record for every sexist jam" - all the fucking jams are sexist! fuckin' ALL of them! calling women "bitches" is sexist, period, just like whites using the N-word is racist whether they mean any harm by it or not - that you're desensitized to it (or don't give a shit about about women's cultural or subcultural status) doesn't mean it's all a-ok
― Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Thursday, 11 May 2006 16:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Thursday, 11 May 2006 16:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― -+-+-+++- (ooo), Thursday, 11 May 2006 16:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― -+-+-+++- (ooo), Thursday, 11 May 2006 16:53 (eighteen years ago) link
Name a rock single in the top 40 from the 1960s with the words "marijuana" or "LSD" in it.
― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Thursday, 11 May 2006 16:53 (eighteen years ago) link
I want to say something about the use of the word "bitch," but I can't formulate it without sounding like a self-hater, so...
― horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 11 May 2006 16:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 11 May 2006 16:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sadat X, Thursday, 11 May 2006 16:55 (eighteen years ago) link
The same way you listen to rock?
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 11 May 2006 16:56 (eighteen years ago) link
I'm not gonna get on a high horse about minstrelsy --- to me thats just a word for a kind of awkward cultural conversation that there's no way around ---- but it does seem kind of weak-ass to say OH THE CARICATURES NOWADAYS ARE SO MUCH WORSE cause back then race relations were cute but when I hear these folks shouting angry things in the street right outside my window in the present tense goodness sakes I just find that distasteful!!!
― reacher, Thursday, 11 May 2006 16:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Thursday, 11 May 2006 16:58 (eighteen years ago) link
fucking hell athens all over this thread now!
― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 11 May 2006 16:58 (eighteen years ago) link
― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 11 May 2006 16:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― -+-+-+++- (ooo), Thursday, 11 May 2006 16:59 (eighteen years ago) link
― Sadat X, Thursday, 11 May 2006 17:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― -+-+-+++- (ooo), Thursday, 11 May 2006 17:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 11 May 2006 17:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― -+-+-+++- (ooo), Thursday, 11 May 2006 17:01 (eighteen years ago) link
― deeej, Thursday, 11 May 2006 17:02 (eighteen years ago) link
― -+-+-+++- (ooo), Thursday, 11 May 2006 17:02 (eighteen years ago) link
now see what ann coulter was tryna say here, without actually saying it or anything, of course,, is that as a woman she feels threatened by the sexist laws of modern islam, and its perfectly within her rights to feel that, as a woman, you know
― -+-+-+++- (ooo), Thursday, 11 May 2006 17:04 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 11 May 2006 17:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― erklie (erklie), Thursday, 11 May 2006 17:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 11 May 2006 17:06 (eighteen years ago) link
How about Sage Fagcis ?
― Sadat X, Thursday, 11 May 2006 17:06 (eighteen years ago) link
the homophobia dynamic is different (that's why it's the one you prefer to address) - the sexism one isn't, except that it's worse, because it's a population who unquestionably holds most/all (ymmv) of the power using language ("bitch," "ho") to subjugate/further subjugate the historically disenfranchised population - men calling women "bitch" is no less hurtful, nor less odious, than white men calling black men by the N-word
x-post trife you gotta get off coulter's jock one of these days
― Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Thursday, 11 May 2006 17:06 (eighteen years ago) link
citation?
― erklie (erklie), Thursday, 11 May 2006 17:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― Anwarpo Nanainrt, Thursday, 11 May 2006 17:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 11 May 2006 17:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 11 May 2006 17:08 (eighteen years ago) link
what position are you in to argue either of these things? for the record women weren't denied humanity by birthright, unless they were black women, and theres no lineage of government-constructed poverty running through women in american history
― -+-+-+++- (ooo), Thursday, 11 May 2006 17:09 (eighteen years ago) link
Uh what?
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 11 May 2006 17:10 (eighteen years ago) link
xpost with:
what position are you in to argue either of these things? for the record women weren't denied humanity by birthright, unless they were black women, and theres no lineage of government-constructed poverty running through women in american
yes, they were. For about four thousand years. And denying women the right to the workplace is gov't-constructed poverty.
― Thomas Tallis (Tommy), Thursday, 11 May 2006 17:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― KOOL G RAP, Thursday, 11 May 2006 17:11 (eighteen years ago) link
― -+-+-+++- (ooo), Thursday, 11 May 2006 17:12 (eighteen years ago) link
therefore, calling women 'bitches' is peachy. Also, the US never denied Jews humanity by birthright, so let's unload on them, too.
― erklie (erklie), Thursday, 11 May 2006 17:12 (eighteen years ago) link
"Rock should have consisted of only the Paul McCartney branch, not the Lennon/Jagger/Richards one," he mourns archly. Detesting the very idea of white blues ("it's fundamentally racist"), he admits that his own aesthetic universe�from Nordic synthipop to redneck C&W�is "so darn white!" "I'm not so concerned with rhythm or syncopation, which are the main concerns of black music after Duke Ellington."
― Eazy (Eazy), Thursday, 11 May 2006 17:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― -+-+-+++- (ooo), Thursday, 11 May 2006 17:13 (eighteen years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 11 May 2006 17:13 (eighteen years ago) link
okay, see, this is why I hate discussions like this. this comparison shouldn't happen. I mean, it can't be substantiated and in a weird way it plays sexism off against racism as though they're discrete and comparable entities, when in the real world they're messily intertwined in all sorts of ways. when you start saying things are the same, you lose the particularities of how they actually operate.
― horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 11 May 2006 17:13 (eighteen years ago) link
No they thought they were fucking someone who didn't count AT ALL for voting purposes.
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Thursday, 11 May 2006 17:14 (eighteen years ago) link
― -+-+-+++- (ooo), Thursday, 11 May 2006 17:14 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 11 May 2006 17:14 (eighteen years ago) link