oh wait, nm
― The Reverend, Friday, 27 July 2012 18:38 (eleven years ago) link
All im gonna say about angel haze v flockaveli is that at least waka never made me listen to a Kool AD verse
― mind your business lady (D-40), Friday, 27 July 2012 18:48 (eleven years ago) link
oh duh, of course that's it, thx rev
― 40oz of tears (Jordan), Friday, 27 July 2012 19:03 (eleven years ago) link
"eg "lol @ your opinion, but we don't need to justify or explain ours because EVERYONE KNOWS IT TO BE SO"
― lex pretend"
well what you want me to say when you're comparing an half good mixtape from a promising rapper with a genre defining classic rap album dropped on a major label ?
― sisilafami, Saturday, 28 July 2012 18:58 (eleven years ago) link
lol @ the idea that the major label bit matters
― lex pretend, Saturday, 28 July 2012 23:56 (eleven years ago) link
ideally what i'd want you to say is WHY the mixtape is only "half good" rather than "genre defining classic" and WHY flockaveli is vice versa but i'm not hoping for that
Why should i explain things everyone knows ? I believe you're aware that a big part of today's rap music is based on the lex luger sound (and that flockavelli has some of the best representative songs of that sound).
& Why should i explain things already said before in this topic ? i think people here already explained what are the flaws of this mixtape (bad execution with deep songs & some bad productions)
― sisilafami, Sunday, 29 July 2012 00:58 (eleven years ago) link
i look at this way: flockaveli was waka cashing in all of his potential, reservation is not that 'moment' for angel haze. her flockaveli is in the distance.
― buzzafeed (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 29 July 2012 02:04 (eleven years ago) link
is 'flockaveli' really the standard by which all other new rap albums are judged?
― smells like ok (soda) (dayo), Sunday, 29 July 2012 02:11 (eleven years ago) link
no, deej just brought it up because they got the same scores on pitchfork
― buzzafeed (J0rdan S.), Sunday, 29 July 2012 03:44 (eleven years ago) link
as i said at that point flockaveli and reservation are so different that direct comparisons are kind of pointless, so my argument isn't so much about pitting them against each other as against the primacy of "objective" metrics among rap listeners (over eg personal response), which sisilafami again exemplified there ("influence", "execution" et al). when i say that the two are on a par, it's pretty simple - these are two of the rap albums i've jammed most and return to again and again of their respective years.
i agree w/j0rdan about flockaveli representing an artist at his peak though, and it's certainly more "important", but "important" isn't the only metric to judge music by.
― lex pretend, Sunday, 29 July 2012 07:39 (eleven years ago) link
...but we're talking about numerical scores bro
― mind your business lady (D-40), Sunday, 29 July 2012 08:50 (eleven years ago) link
obsessing over numerical scores is even worse?
― lex pretend, Sunday, 29 July 2012 09:05 (eleven years ago) link
the primacy of "objective" metrics among rap listeners (over eg personal response), which sisilafami again exemplified there ("influence", "execution" et al). when i say that the two are on a par, it's pretty simple - these are two of the rap albums i've jammed most and return to again and again of their respective years.
then instead of pointing out things explained before, i simply should've said that i find flockavelli much much better, that i'll listen to it 10 years from now and that i don't know if i will do the same with the AH mixtape in a few months.
― sisilafami, Sunday, 29 July 2012 09:58 (eleven years ago) link
i have a personal bias in favor of nonchalant rappers v. superhypertechnical wizards
― mind your business lady (D-40), Monday, 30 July 2012 01:48 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01l7n8b
Angel Haze Interview(40.00)The brilliant Angel Haze is in the studio with MistaJam! She tells us about loving Paul Epworth, Rudimental and Harry Styles!
― r|t|c, Thursday, 2 August 2012 14:43 (eleven years ago) link
Rudimental!
― REV LION (The Reverend), Thursday, 2 August 2012 18:02 (eleven years ago) link
actual amazing video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7y2UV5t_v9I
could do without them giving up and going into the studio at the end though lol
― lex pretend, Thursday, 2 August 2012 18:33 (eleven years ago) link
― REV LION (The Reverend), Thursday, 2 August 2012 19:02 (52 minutes ago) Bookmark
see yeah i forgot about the booster mentality round here that would blank out everything lol about that post to focus on the one feebly spinnable thing
u guys are super weird
― r|t|c, Thursday, 2 August 2012 19:01 (eleven years ago) link
i really wouldnt have expected mistajam to pick up on her but it does make sense actually
the uk is pretty much d-40's nightmare zone
― r|t|c, Thursday, 2 August 2012 19:06 (eleven years ago) link
xp Epworth is kind of harmless I guess, hating on him is like bitching about Coldplay at this point. dunno who the other guy is.
― REV LION (The Reverend), Thursday, 2 August 2012 21:49 (eleven years ago) link
A member of One Direction. Specifically one of the inbred toothy ones and not the hot one.
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 2 August 2012 22:44 (eleven years ago) link
Played her first headline show in NYC, which streamed live and is archived.
She killed it, more or less. Way more stage presence than I anticipated - her youtubes were always captivating but in a bedroom art sort of way. She owns the stage, though. More convinced now than ever that this is her moment.
http://new.livestream.com/sobs/angelhaze
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 30 August 2012 05:43 (eleven years ago) link
also, solid interview - http://blogs.villagevoice.com/music/2012/08/angel_haze_interview.php
apparently she was studying neuroscience before taking a break to throw her hat in the ring musically.
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 30 August 2012 05:54 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szj7efHG-00
amazing video
so annoyed i missed her london show due to being at the tory conference >:(
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 18:52 (eleven years ago) link
She's playing Koko on Saturday.
― Get wolves (DL), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 19:50 (eleven years ago) link
aaaaaghhhh another clash of course
*attempts to rearrange entire life*
(how was the gig on mon?)
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 20:25 (eleven years ago) link
So pleased that this is a single. One of my absolute favourite tracks of 2012.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 21:18 (eleven years ago) link
I adore her.
― monotony, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 23:22 (eleven years ago) link
Also amazing
http://www.complex.com/music/2012/10/video-angel-haze-replies-to-youtube-comments-about-her-music
― Get wolves (DL), Wednesday, 17 October 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link
hahaha amazing
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Thursday, 18 October 2012 02:36 (eleven years ago) link
<3 <3 <3
― Simon H., Thursday, 18 October 2012 02:59 (eleven years ago) link
http://soundcloud.com/angelhazeym/angel-haze-cleaning-out-my/s-AJcso
― Get wolves (DL), Tuesday, 23 October 2012 17:29 (eleven years ago) link
couldn't listen more than once. pretty much leaves you reeling
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 23 October 2012 17:30 (eleven years ago) link
I had the same reaction. There's a kind of resolution at the end but up till that point…
― Get wolves (DL), Tuesday, 23 October 2012 17:32 (eleven years ago) link
this is harrowing and amazing
― Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Tuesday, 23 October 2012 18:12 (eleven years ago) link
it is odd to hear the "Cleaning Out My Closet" beat and to be impressed by the narrative being told over it, though
― Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Tuesday, 23 October 2012 18:17 (eleven years ago) link
man this is fucked up, and so fucking brave
― monotony, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 01:01 (eleven years ago) link
Oh man
― Raymond Cummings, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 02:29 (eleven years ago) link
new mixtape drops in 20 hours
http://www.livemixtapes.com/mixtapes/19362/angel-haze-classick.html
― sisilafami, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 19:33 (eleven years ago) link
finally up on this. v. impressed.
― s.clover, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link
her Roman's Revenge is really good.
― s.clover, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link
it seems that many rap nerds have not picked up on this
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 20:42 (eleven years ago) link
mixtape
http://www.livemixtapes.com/download/19362/angel-haze-classick.html
― lex pretend, Thursday, 25 October 2012 16:23 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah. That's a great tape.
― O-Jah Da Lionmane (longneck), Thursday, 25 October 2012 17:17 (eleven years ago) link
I've played "Werkin' Girls" 18 times in 10 minutes.
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 26 October 2012 13:44 (eleven years ago) link
Haha yeah I think I did the same thing when i first heard it.
― Tim F, Friday, 26 October 2012 19:20 (eleven years ago) link
Angel Haze hearts Jake Bugg.
http://itraeens.tumblr.com/post/37043108713/lightning-bolt-jake-bugg-everyone-i-see-just
― Deafening silence (DL), Thursday, 6 December 2012 23:34 (eleven years ago) link
i saw an interview where she said she really loves train and jason mraz and justin nozuka, wasn't sure if she was kidding
― teledyldonix, Friday, 7 December 2012 07:18 (eleven years ago) link
She's probably not kidding.
― Matt DC, Friday, 7 December 2012 09:39 (eleven years ago) link