Creedence Clearwater Revival vs the Grateful Dead vs the Band

exactly.

i dunno, i grew up with CCR. they belonged to my parents, so it's appropriate to me that fogerty sounds daddish. sometimes, "dad" is a p cool thing to be. also, even in their era they were nostalgic and a bit goofy. fogerty's hamminess suits that.

one of my very earliest musical memories was being in my dad's truck, driving to my childhood home in the Blue Ridge Mountains and hearing CCR on the radio and thinking both that a) all music sounds like this and b) that the band was at the radio station playing live at that moment

that is awesome

Fogerty's authentic frontier gibberish is one of the great innovations in rock frontman-ism, period. The guy inhabited a role like no one this side of Tom Waits.

WOULD SOMEONE PLEASE DEFINE CHOOGLE

Maybe you don’t understand it.
But if you’re a natural man,
You got to ball and have a good time
And that’s what I call chooglin’.

Here comes mary lookin’ for harry,
She gonna choogle tonight.
Here comes louie, works in the sewer,
He gonna choogle tonight.

you'll know it when you're in one

A rhythm guitar style that employs a deliberately hard up and down stroke against the strings to simulate the motions of pistons or trains. A style made popular in the late 1960s and early 1970s by Creedence Clearwater Revival.
That song meanders along until that mid-break, where, MAN! it starts to choogle!

Wish I was back on the Bayou
Rollin' with some Cajun Queen
Wishin' I were a fast freight train
Just a chooglin' on down to New Orleans

and umm.

When a someone licks your balls with your dick in their mouth.
That chick choogled me last night.

all from http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=choogle btw

how the hell is that even possible?

Maybe you don’t understand it.
But if you’re a natural man,
You got to have someone lick your balls with your dick in their mouth
And that’s what I call chooglin’.

That's deep.

how about this
"The energy implied by coinages like 'choogle' and 'ramble tamble' has more to do with vigor than with potency, more to do with simple activity than with sexuality. That distinction has its parallel in Fogerty’s politics, which are less apocalyptic (and revolutionary) than activist (and liberal) - the politics of agape rather than the politics of Eros."

whoever wrote that choogled John Fogerty.

That's deep.

― EZ Snappin, Friday, August 10, 2012 2:40 PM (2 minutes ago)

I lol'd

we need a new board--I Love Chooglin'

xxp how dare you say that about bob xgau
key essay
http://blog.wfmu.org/freeform/2009/01/keep-on-chooglin-.html

xgau also seemed to have a very specific idea of what 'truckin'' entailed

his problem re: 'truckin'' was that it didn't truck enough iirc

Like the doo-dah man

i thought chooglin' was when you put your ramble tamble in an oobie doobie

hey watch your mouth man, there's women on this board

pleased to see the warehouse decree still stands

rip stence u were cranky

i think all of fogerty's lyrics were heavy on the sexual innuendo -- you don't even want to know what he was talking about when he sang "oh lord stuck in lodi again"

nice to see that the warehouse decree still stands

rip stence u were cranky

nice to see that the warehouse decree still stands

rip stence u were cranky

i think all of fogerty's lyrics were heavy on the sexual innuendo -- you don't even want to know what he was talking about when he sang "oh lord stuck in lodi again"

nice to see that the warehouse decree still stands

rip stence u were cranky

i think all of fogerty's lyrics were heavy on the sexual innuendo -- you don't even want to know what he was talking about when he sang "oh lord stuck in lodi again"

I get chooglin' and noodlin' mixed up. But you DO NOT want to use your pecker for noodlin'.

double posts! WHAT

i think all of fogerty's lyrics were heavy on the sexual innuendo -- you don't even want to know what he was talking about when he sang "oh lord stuck in lodi again"

triple! it's ok, my joke was just that hilarious.

nice to see that the warehouse decree still stands

rip stence u were cranky

what the horse?

wtfogarty

those posts were chooglin'.

rip fogerty u were choogly

heaven needed to choogle

feelin' blue, blue, blue, blue (balls)

I know as a kid and up to a few years ago, it would always be CCR. It's kind of hard to argue with those singles and that sound they had. How screwed up Fantasy and "the band" situation got with John Fogarty is one of the odd and completely sad stories in rock. I think Fogarty kind of just gave it up for a long time and really I don't think ever got over it until really a few years back, once he could play his own tunes again. Brother against brother to the deathbed, I can't really blame JF for flipping them the bird at the whole rock and roll hall of fame. Could you imagine Reprise turning Crazy Horse or Buffalo Springfield against Neil Young? Talk about killing the goose that laid golden eggs. CCR is pretty much the majordomo bar band and those golden singles will probably be sung in bands with guitars for a good long time.

The Bands' story is just sad, as it seems that Robbie Robertson is/was a pretty big egomaniac that tried to take credit for inventing the wheel. Those first two records and the stuff they did with Dylan is pretty sharp. They could definitely sing better harmonies than any of those three bands. I think some of the two keyboard arrangements are a bit ornate. When it's on like say Chest Fever its cool, but some of the songs it's not my favorite. They were unique, but I appreciate them more than really like them.

I've kind of skirted around liking and not liking the Dead for years. Their music just seemed to be around and I think over time I began to like it more and in the last few years, far removed from having to deal with 'the fans' or anything else it really clicked with me. All three of these bands are kind of out of the roots of rock and roll and liked to stretch it out live, but the Dead is really a very different beast. There is overlap, but really they were a different thing.

i dig grapevine by CCR, I wish they had stretched out more elsewhere. endless choogle.

― tylerw, Friday, August 10, 2012 2:17 PM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I don't have it handy, but Dave Marsh's writeup of CCR in The New Rolling Stone Record Guide characterized "Grapevine" as (I'm paraphrasing) "Fogerty burning to prove he was as much of an artist as anyone in the Grateful Dead -- he didn't know he was much, much more."

Also, worlds colliding etc. :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V98p-qrbK1c

Tom Fogerty played with a bunch of Dead dudes iirc - all those guys knew each other

Poor Jer stepping in front of a train:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tj0WBO6VQJQ&feature=related

That Marsh quote was buried in the recesses of my mind somewhere--when this poll went up, I had a vague memory of someone specifically contrasting CCR favorably against the Grateful Dead. I thought maybe it was Ellen Willis in her Illustrated History piece, but Marsh makes a lot more sense.

Poor Jer stepping in front of a train:

drummer is terrible. jesus christ lay off the ride cymbal dude

i lasted 95 seconds on the first vid... the dead were so hopelessly tone deaf, out of tune and rhythmically challenged for a jam band... and then there's the fans.