Are white people who say "I don't like hip hop" yet listen to it when white people make it really saying "i don't like black people"?

Name a rock single in the top 40 from the 1960s with the words "marijuana" or "LSD" in it.

I want to say something about the use of the word "bitch," but I can't formulate it without sounding like a self-hater, so...

The same way you listen to rock?

I'm not gonna get on a high horse about minstrelsy --- to me thats just a word for a kind of awkward cultural conversation that there's no way around ---- but it does seem kind of weak-ass to say OH THE CARICATURES NOWADAYS ARE SO MUCH WORSE cause back then race relations were cute but when I hear these folks shouting angry things in the street right outside my window in the present tense goodness sakes I just find that distasteful!!!

fucking hell athens all over this thread now!

now see what ann coulter was tryna say here, without actually saying it or anything, of course,, is that as a woman she feels threatened by the sexist laws of modern islam, and its perfectly within her rights to feel that, as a woman, you know

How about Sage Fagcis ?

the homophobia dynamic is different (that's why it's the one you prefer to address) - the sexism one isn't, except that it's worse, because it's a population who unquestionably holds most/all (ymmv) of the power using language ("bitch," "ho") to subjugate/further subjugate the historically disenfranchised population - men calling women "bitch" is no less hurtful, nor less odious, than white men calling black men by the N-word

x-post trife you gotta get off coulter's jock one of these days

citation?

what position are you in to argue either of these things? for the record women weren't denied humanity by birthright, unless they were black women, and theres no lineage of government-constructed poverty running through women in american history

Uh what?

xpost with:

what position are you in to argue either of these things? for the record women weren't denied humanity by birthright, unless they were black women, and theres no lineage of government-constructed poverty running through women in american

yes, they were. For about four thousand years. And denying women the right to the workplace is gov't-constructed poverty.

therefore, calling women 'bitches' is peachy. Also, the US never denied Jews humanity by birthright, so let's unload on them, too.

"Rock should have consisted of only the Paul McCartney branch, not the Lennon/Jagger/Richards one," he mourns archly. Detesting the very idea of white blues ("it's fundamentally racist"), he admits that his own aesthetic universe�from Nordic synthipop to redneck C&W�is "so darn white!" "I'm not so concerned with rhythm or syncopation, which are the main concerns of black music after Duke Ellington."

okay, see, this is why I hate discussions like this. this comparison shouldn't happen. I mean, it can't be substantiated and in a weird way it plays sexism off against racism as though they're discrete and comparable entities, when in the real world they're messily intertwined in all sorts of ways. when you start saying things are the same, you lose the particularities of how they actually operate.

No they thought they were fucking someone who didn't count AT ALL for voting purposes.

And while TT/JD might be right about a few folks being more willing to get into racial issues than gender ones, I don't think that's representative of the wider world, where for many many people the opposite is true. I think that as a point of argument it might work with some people on ilm but in the wider world there are plenty of racist feminists who've done the same thing in reverse, and there's evidence of this throughout history, so I don't think its fair to generalize.

Yeah it's been historically important in reifying their place as second class citizens.

was turned into this:
merritt's assertion that duke ellington ruined american music by 'africanizing' it and that's why the pop charts are filled with 'mongrels' now (ca. spring 2000) and that's why abba could never chart now