Although maybe I could just be associating it with those mp3s of course! It's been a while...
― MikoMcha, Sunday, 2 September 2012 22:45 (eleven years ago) link
Was it just that dubstep bloggers liked him and "decompression" had a vaguely syncopated beat? That had always been my assumption but maybe there was something more going on.
― Tim F, Sunday, 2 September 2012 22:45 (eleven years ago) link
Man you know what Metope tune was really amazing that I had totally forgotten about? "Libertango". Just listened to Koivikko's 'Hot Pepper' mix again and the way it ends on this so great. Love metope's machine whiplash grooves.
Though I guess maybe he's still too brittle to click with Rev.
― Tim F, Sunday, 2 September 2012 22:52 (eleven years ago) link
The last few tracks on Hot Pepper are so good. I remember thinking of how ground-breaking it sounded at the time. This demented electro-techno-minimal stomping sound. Also the first time I think I heard maximalist-minimalism...
― MikoMcha, Sunday, 2 September 2012 23:06 (eleven years ago) link
...which kind of then bled into electrohouse after.
― MikoMcha, Sunday, 2 September 2012 23:07 (eleven years ago) link
Also Beeze & Schmidt's "Meander" into Osborne's "Graphite" is some pinnacle of funky minimal ("Meander" actually sounds like a remix of "Da Funk").
― Tim F, Sunday, 2 September 2012 23:10 (eleven years ago) link
There was another really good set of mixes kicking around that time, a blog I've forgotten about, but was mixing tracks like Motiivi:Tuntematon, 1939 w/ things like Yoshimoto, Du What U Du (Trentemøller Mix). Have to dig out my old HD for those proto-electrohouse mixes.
― MikoMcha, Sunday, 2 September 2012 23:12 (eleven years ago) link
my top 10 minimal would be like: fizheuer, pele bloss, safari, india in me, mund zu mund, dinamo, cosmic sandwich ... uh
― the late great, Sunday, 2 September 2012 23:14 (eleven years ago) link
Have you heard that "M.O.R.D." remix Vahid?
― Tim F, Sunday, 2 September 2012 23:20 (eleven years ago) link
son of raw loco dice version, dub kult's on and on and guy gerber stoppage time
― the late great, Sunday, 2 September 2012 23:21 (eleven years ago) link
no what's that and who's it by?
was just listening to kreucht & fleucht, so good
Is it just me or are all of your faves looooong ass tunes.
All very "let me take you on a journey... Into sound...."
― Tim F, Sunday, 2 September 2012 23:22 (eleven years ago) link
Daniel Taylor - "M.O.R.D. (Loco Dice Remix)"
― Tim F, Sunday, 2 September 2012 23:23 (eleven years ago) link
His best tune alongside the son of raw remix.
why yes tim, they are, that's why i was listening to so much radio slave at the time
― the late great, Sunday, 2 September 2012 23:27 (eleven years ago) link
Not a criticism! It just struck me seeing them listed together like that.
Obv long ass was a minimal m.o. at the time.
― Tim F, Sunday, 2 September 2012 23:28 (eleven years ago) link
We should do a POX of funky percussive minimal (a la Dinky's "Horizontal") and other techno for Rev.
― Tim F, Monday, 3 September 2012 01:02 (eleven years ago) link
good life (luciano)
not so much minimal anymore as shading into rainforest maximal
he would like safari (holden) i bet
― the late great, Monday, 3 September 2012 01:07 (eleven years ago) link
as well as houle's "bay of figs", son of raw, luciano's "good life" and misc. "ballet"
― the late great, Monday, 3 September 2012 01:11 (eleven years ago) link
Is the "on and on" Guido Schneider remix too dry? Amazing percussion on that.
Schneider releasing a tune called "As Dry As I Can Be" was a great guilty lol of minimal.
― Tim F, Monday, 3 September 2012 01:11 (eleven years ago) link
Dunno about Houle, he's pretty rigid for rev's tastes? Like I get that he's funky in a techno sense but I think you need to have already internalizedmachine beats to view him that way?
― Tim F, Monday, 3 September 2012 01:13 (eleven years ago) link
Curious to know what techno post oh 2007 (that's not actually like industrial post-dubstep or something, though that too I guess) people think fit into this category.
― Tim F, Monday, 3 September 2012 01:16 (eleven years ago) link
rev likes mike q?
― the late great, Monday, 3 September 2012 02:15 (eleven years ago) link
ballroom rigidity is different to techno rigidity though, there's still that snare-heavy stepping vibe however muscularised.
― Tim F, Monday, 3 September 2012 02:26 (eleven years ago) link
First person to spring to my mind is S Max who always had a more loose syncopated feel, than much of the mid-00 crossover house/techno sound.
http://www.discogs.com/S-Max-Lovebombing-EP/release/1109518
Since 2007 he's been leaning more towards that post-dubstep techno sound: http://soundcloud.com/wholemeal-music/s-max-promo (a mix, but with plenty of his own stuff)
― Chewshabadoo, Monday, 3 September 2012 09:04 (eleven years ago) link
Rev was the first person to introduce me to Mike Q.
I've had 'Solitary Flight' on a loop (on my stereo and in my head) all weekend. However the only version I seem to be able to find sounds like it was recorded in a bin. Is this normal?
― This Is... The Police (dog latin), Monday, 3 September 2012 09:28 (eleven years ago) link
LOL, well I think you've nailed the Detroit House sound. That style always sounds great on a club sound system though.
― Chewshabadoo, Monday, 3 September 2012 09:57 (eleven years ago) link
It should sound like this anyway:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7tfNm-hi0A&feature=related
― Chewshabadoo, Monday, 3 September 2012 09:58 (eleven years ago) link
dog latin - is it better than 192 kbps?
tim what about BRUTALga square?
― the late great, Monday, 3 September 2012 20:04 (eleven years ago) link
LOL ask Rev but I think not.
― Tim F, Monday, 3 September 2012 20:49 (eleven years ago) link
I think something more like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAE916Xvk2s
― Tim F, Monday, 3 September 2012 20:58 (eleven years ago) link
Or maybe something like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OniHSXEH230
― Tim F, Monday, 3 September 2012 21:02 (eleven years ago) link
Maybe we should start a separate thread for this - not just for Rev but to explore this line of reasoning.
― Tim F, Monday, 3 September 2012 21:08 (eleven years ago) link
i'm confused about what this strand we're looking for is...
― Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Monday, 3 September 2012 21:19 (eleven years ago) link
but, as ever, an excuse to post youtubes of yore is hardly needed
we're looking for funky, bass-heavy, percussive minimal tracks with a "take you on a journey" vibe that are slightly inferior to but approaching the quality of radio slave, particularly the ones tim and rev hate
― the late great, Monday, 3 September 2012 21:23 (eleven years ago) link
haha nice try vahid:
(a) I don't think they need to be "take you on a journey"
(b) I love Radio Slave but I don't think Rev would at all
Basically Ronan, Rev thinks he doesn't like techno/tech-house/minimal, but gets with house and uk funky and post-dubstep and etc. and is always talking about how he likes grooves that are primarily driven by percussion (rather than, say, arpeggios). So I was brainstorming tunes I think he would like, esp. after he loved Dinky's "Horizontal" (but didn't care for Metope's "Selvsyn") which I posted upthread.
― Tim F, Monday, 3 September 2012 21:29 (eleven years ago) link
minimal tracks with a "take you on a journey" vibe that are slightly inferior to but approaching the quality of radio slave
at what point did you think this was about you, anyway?
― Tim F, Monday, 3 September 2012 21:30 (eleven years ago) link
this is the first thing i think of, hasn't aged well, used to love this though, it's a eulberg remix, not labelled that clearly here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGUehbxH-cw
actually listening through i'm enjoying it still.
― Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Monday, 3 September 2012 21:33 (eleven years ago) link
another one... the secret "gehts noch?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWe744c6YFo
― Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Monday, 3 September 2012 21:36 (eleven years ago) link
god that used to go down so well in clubs.
― Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Monday, 3 September 2012 21:37 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah I was trying to think of an appropriate Eulberg tune too. That one's great! Not certain if I've heard it before. Possibly too boshing for Rev (I think he might turn his nose up at anything with big tearing bass riffs, but perhaps not), I'm not sure.
Meanwhile MikoMcha here's the Luciano Live @ Silo, Belgium mix:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/3od2xm
I will also upload the Krystal Bucharest live set shortly as I always think of that as "part 2" to this.
― Tim F, Monday, 3 September 2012 21:40 (eleven years ago) link
always all about me tim, solipsism get into it
― the late great, Monday, 3 September 2012 21:41 (eleven years ago) link
this attempt to blow rev's mind has sparked quite the discussion. only half joking. being reminded of some good things i overlooked then because it was often just off what i wanted to hear. did enjoy a bit of matthew jonson at the time, but the only one i return to is the speicher mentioned above (not by name tho) "dirt road and the boat from soundwave" with the mole. so fantastic still, and one i can't believe i didn't vote for. probably place high if i was to vote again today.
― andrew m., Tuesday, 4 September 2012 03:35 (eleven years ago) link
hell let's listen shall wehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XwroX3vdK9M#!
― andrew m., Tuesday, 4 September 2012 03:36 (eleven years ago) link
interesting list, wish there were a few more big room type joints in it tho
my fav jacques lu cont is def his gwen stefani remix, surprised that didnt get a mention. and my mindgarden favorite is his remix of "sex & sun" but im kinda lonely on that one
i think this is much better than prototypehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfHNuoTqFug
Dancing in Chicago gave me v different experiences than this, the 2000s would have been all about dennis ferrer and instead of that mark e edit it would be an edit of bill withers "Harlem" and there's no WAY "Mirror Dance" wouldn't be there, or this white label of natalie cole: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6W-IQyW6Vo
― The rain in Spin circles mainly on the mansplain (D-40), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 07:54 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, I was actually quite surprised that Prototype placed instead of the (in my opinion FAR superior) I look into Mid-Air
― formerly EDB (ed.b), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 07:56 (eleven years ago) link
Frequency > Prototype too
― itt: i forgot that he yells at a butt (sic), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 07:58 (eleven years ago) link
my Kompakt choices would be v different from the ones that made it probably. i think the ultimate Superpitcher is "Heroin," i like him at his most enervated
― The rain in Spin circles mainly on the mansplain (D-40), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 08:03 (eleven years ago) link