grime in 2004

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dude u had me until the god's gift thing! i can defend young gunnaz all day on principle i dont even need the facts or anything, but that lp's ok. haha i mean it's not like i bought it or anything. YET! i might for the juelz tune. and 'cant stop wont stop' was the tune of 03 blatantly

prima fassy (mwah), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 00:21 (twenty years ago) link

how u could prefer doogz to gods gift is really beyond me tho

prima_fassy (mwah), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 00:25 (twenty years ago) link

It's because I love the cheese.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 00:26 (twenty years ago) link

I know God's Gift is like, a legend and everything, he just seems to suck all the intensity out of any tune he's MCing over. To each his own.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 00:27 (twenty years ago) link

I've never really liked God's Gift. I thought he ruined Street Beats. Flame me now.

ok then. i think you must be a girl. what are, some kind of big girls blouse. gift is exceelent. if you don't like gift that means you don't like riko because they sound identical. only sissys don't like riko.

everyone loves god's gift. and riko dan.

street beats would have been shit even if every copy came with a golden ticket to visit the chocolate factory.

there, is that ok?

l'''''', Tuesday, 2 March 2004 00:27 (twenty years ago) link

I love Riko and Flo Dan!

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 00:31 (twenty years ago) link

wot he sucked the intensity out of the tune on the dizzee lp?! did u hear him on pum pum riddim, or doing never scared on 'heat in the street'! intensity, thats like the only thing i couldnt say against him

prima fassy (mwah), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 00:32 (twenty years ago) link

wot he sucked the intensity out of the tune on the dizzee lp

Hold Ya Mouf? I would have preferred Riko on that!

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 00:43 (twenty years ago) link

intensity is definitely the mans forte. theres two clash lyirics on igloo, one by gift one by riko, any money you couldn't distinguish between the two (if the names were bleeped out)


who wants to sort me out with heat in the street? (assuming it left the shops ages ago)

i'm going to put a pizza in the oven. then i'm going to bed.
goodnight sweethearts
hey, prima fassy, am i confused or do you do spizzazzz?
thats what cozen told me but he lies about everything, its congential, all scotsmen do it

l'''''', Tuesday, 2 March 2004 00:49 (twenty years ago) link

Prima is Rob Them Co.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 01:01 (twenty years ago) link

(hi prima!)

cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 01:09 (twenty years ago) link

luka, I only have three tracks off of Heat In The Street, but you're welcome to them if you don't have any joy elsewhere.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 02:10 (twenty years ago) link

god that young gunz album is fucking trash

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 2 March 2004 03:32 (twenty years ago) link

Video for "Wot Do You Call It?"

I can't watch because I'm at work.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 3 March 2004 00:26 (twenty years ago) link

not exactly envigorating UNTIL the motorbike bit...wtf is that about? after that even the tune seems to take off.

mullygrubber (gaz), Wednesday, 3 March 2004 00:41 (twenty years ago) link

I wish I knew what you were talking about.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 3 March 2004 00:42 (twenty years ago) link

is he a motorcycle nut? are there lyrics about motorcycles in there? revving sounds in the track? halfway through it starts to cut away to a guy doing wheelies for some reason.

mullygrubber (gaz), Wednesday, 3 March 2004 00:44 (twenty years ago) link

is he driving one of those ruff ryders motorcycles?

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 3 March 2004 00:45 (twenty years ago) link

oh those are just great

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 3 March 2004 02:18 (twenty years ago) link

Okay now I see it. Well, all those Eski Dance scenes are great, especially the girls in the front.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 3 March 2004 02:23 (twenty years ago) link

the first half is kind of funny actually.

mullygrubber (gaz), Wednesday, 3 March 2004 02:24 (twenty years ago) link

Big up Rhythm Division and the actual bloke behind the counter!

JoB (JoB), Wednesday, 3 March 2004 17:22 (twenty years ago) link

Does anyone know anything about the upcoming "Grime" compilation from Rephlex? (!) CAT 156 LP/CD.

JoB (JoB), Wednesday, 3 March 2004 17:24 (twenty years ago) link

Luka I have "Heat in the Streets" - you know the deal.

That heinously good Lethal B riddim is called the Forward Riddim (not FWD, may I add)

I heard two tracks from the RePhlex comp on Rossi B & Luca's (no relation) show [Sunday 5pm-7pm Rinse100.3fm]. Certainly not grime. From what I remember I preferred "Mark One - Stargate" to "Plasticman - The Music", both more on the dubstep side of the tracks. I do have to admit a definite attraction to Mark One's militant beats, including his mix of P.M's Hard Graft.

tinman, Thursday, 4 March 2004 03:38 (twenty years ago) link

Here's the replacement for the broken link of N.A.S.T.Y b2b Dynasty from 5th Jan on DejaVu92.3

tinman, Thursday, 4 March 2004 14:08 (twenty years ago) link

re: JoB

"Grime. Sublow. Dubstep. It's Music. Different people call it different things, depending on when they discovered it. In the 80's, maybe it was House, Techno and Electro. In the 90's it was UK-G, Drum and Bass, Breaks or whatever. Now there are so many terms for it that the journalists can’t pidgeon-hole it any more. This is a good thing - it's music. Moody music. Multifunctional, multifaceted music created by Humans with Brains, Hearts, Machines & Electricity. Music that’s great for dancing to in clubs, or submerging yourself within your headphones, your car, your home, wherever. It's instrumental dance music, but it's the perfect forum for the best MC's and vocalists. We at Rephlex call it Grime to publicise to the people at large, outside of the specialist world of it's producers. The purists might debate the name, but while they do that, crews around the globe are uniting in this strong & fresh dance movement. In this age of Information Technology, people are able to easily find real quality that they actually want, without being spoon-fed compromised product. Now, it is a time of change and the soundtrack is Grime."


!!!!!!!!!! we at rephlex call it grime?!?!?! well thanks for bestowing that name upon the world guys!!!!

there is some night at the end for the album. 23rd april with markone and plasticman.

ambrose (ambrose), Friday, 5 March 2004 16:34 (twenty years ago) link

heh! that's pretty funny!

cheers lee, i will give you a ding when i get over the dirty cold i'm suffering from right now.

l''''''', Saturday, 6 March 2004 00:10 (twenty years ago) link

haha mark one and plasticman are going to be playing @ the kompakt/rephlex night in nyc too. i am sure it will be uh grimey.

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Saturday, 6 March 2004 00:30 (twenty years ago) link

hey @d@m rhythm division shipped the target cd, try them. whats up with 6 versions of that scorpion tune in a row?! havent listened to the end of it yet cos my head hurts enough as it is. hope that maxwell d tune is good, i think he is alright

ambrose (ambrose), Tuesday, 9 March 2004 01:09 (twenty years ago) link

what do people think of that conflict video?

gareth (gareth), Monday, 15 March 2004 10:34 (twenty years ago) link

thanks for the tip, ambrose

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 15 March 2004 15:10 (twenty years ago) link

anyone got the lord of the decks DVD on soulseek?

jaheim hoagland, Wednesday, 17 March 2004 14:12 (twenty years ago) link

re, ambroses post upthread...

http://pod-135.dolphin-server.co.uk/~gareth/ilx/grime1.jpg

http://pod-135.dolphin-server.co.uk/~gareth/ilx/grime2.jpg

i dont know, i mean, i still have a lot of time for rephlex, but this is kind of embarrassing, the way theyve coat tailed on this

gareth (gareth), Thursday, 18 March 2004 14:05 (twenty years ago) link

Certainly all that blurb is embarassing. I keep expecting to see them argue that "Red Hot Car" was proto-grime, or proto-dubstep, or whatever,

Antmusic78 (Antmusic78), Thursday, 18 March 2004 16:51 (twenty years ago) link

Hey, has anyone heard this "Life's A Dice Game Vol 1" thing? Tracks from JME, Skepta, Lethal B, East Connection, also has "Serious Thugs" and a Skepta/Terra Danja thing that sounds suspiciously like "DTI".

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 18 March 2004 17:25 (twenty years ago) link

Has anyone read the Eski beat article in the new Dazed & Confused? Any good?

JoB (JoB), Thursday, 18 March 2004 20:59 (twenty years ago) link

Okay, first impressions - there is some dodgy stuff on here, but also some really excellent stuff. Two Diablo (?) productions that are very much on a DJ Premier/sped up soul cut-up thing (sorry strongo), one of which I'm certain is "Strawberry Letter 23" and is just okay, with some decent MCing from Culprit and some other people who aren't named. A terrible Littleman/Chardonnai track. Also a full version of "Serious Thugs" and one of the Skepta tracks is the aforementioned "Don't Fuck Around" which is pretty nice. Other standouts are two JME (who I'm REALLY starting to rate) tracks, one of which ("Scotland") rides some weird somnambulant melody that could be off of Ambient Works Vol 2 or something. Also Snagga ft Guyver "Nasty" which reminds me a bit of "Popadomz". And there's an R&B cut "Cold Living", the beat sounds a bit like "Something About Us"!

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 18 March 2004 21:03 (twenty years ago) link

Also Venom's "Armshouse" is the literal and logical conclusion to J0hn Darn13ll3's theory that "all UK Garage is Madness with guns".

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 18 March 2004 21:25 (twenty years ago) link

ugh, this dice thing...all my worst fears confirmed. grime producers ripping off kanye...WHY?!

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 25 March 2004 04:30 (twenty years ago) link

i mean right down to the clap-boom-boom-boom-clap and squeaky soul sample

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 25 March 2004 04:32 (twenty years ago) link

(actually i am sure some of this is pretty hot. i need to give it a better listen, on headphones maybe. i think i have some sort of weird trifean jingoistic reaction to hearing british people rocking over straight-up rap beats.)

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 25 March 2004 04:33 (twenty years ago) link

have it (Life's A Dice Game) on vinyl and like about 4 or 5 of the cuts but it hasn't drawn me back
prefer the more UK continuum + R&B girly / ragga sounding bits
the closer it gets to U.S. hip hop production the less interested I am

bought it for "Serious Thugs" though cos the 12" of that was O.S. at the time

Paul (scifisoul), Thursday, 25 March 2004 05:01 (twenty years ago) link

No, I think I agree with you both. It's a bit dodgy in many places. There are definitley one or two good tracks on there, but that's it.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 25 March 2004 05:43 (twenty years ago) link

No real surprises, for sure.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 25 March 2004 05:44 (twenty years ago) link

The only grime-becomes-hip hop tracks I've liked recently have been the J2k (dunno) and Flow Dan (Pass The Dutch) cuts on the Target tape.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 25 March 2004 05:45 (twenty years ago) link

i was gonna get that target mix from you but its in that pesk .m4a format.

j2k is a bit too mean to the ladies for my tastes.

strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 25 March 2004 05:47 (twenty years ago) link

oh yes, the m4a thing. I did that by accident. I'll fix it soon, so check back tomorrow.

Does that mean I am bad for liking J2K?

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 25 March 2004 06:14 (twenty years ago) link

The Rephlex blurb is kind of silly, but am I the only person pleased to see they're engaging with this music head on, instead of getting one of their mates to record a dodgy Squarepusher-style parody of it? Not living in London, I'm welcoming any attempt to distribute this music that doesn't involve paying £7 for it.

Jason J, Thursday, 25 March 2004 13:44 (twenty years ago) link

the new winamp does the m4a thing apparently. or get dbpoweramp with an add on to convert 'em.

mullygrubber (gaz), Thursday, 25 March 2004 13:48 (twenty years ago) link

that life's a die game was what i was refferring to when i said i blame dj samurari, thats his thing. in the advert he does for it he specifficaly calls it uk hiphop. hes a hiphop dj that does all the wikkawikka scrathy stuff and everything. his dream is to make grime become hiphop, then he'd be like the grandmaster flush of grime

'''''', Thursday, 25 March 2004 18:03 (twenty years ago) link


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