Bob Dylan - Tempest, Sept. 11, 2012

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I know of no dylan fans who claim his voice now is ideal

listen to that wu-tang whistle blowin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 13 September 2012 15:54 (eleven years ago) link

i know how to spell nick menage than you very much

tylerw, Thursday, 13 September 2012 15:54 (eleven years ago) link

i love his voice now!

Mr. Que, Thursday, 13 September 2012 15:54 (eleven years ago) link

nicki melange

Mr. Que, Thursday, 13 September 2012 15:54 (eleven years ago) link

If only there were some suitably reverential Bob Dylan reviews I could read to calm my outrage about this.

Matt DC, Thursday, 13 September 2012 15:54 (eleven years ago) link

well this is quite a tempest!!

goole, Thursday, 13 September 2012 15:55 (eleven years ago) link

The one in Uncut should meet your needs. It's a stunning return to form and his strongest work in years, apparently.

John Mulvey of Uncut offers this interesting critique on his, um, blog.

Here he is with the classic "Poème Électronique." Good track (Marcello Carlin), Thursday, 13 September 2012 15:56 (eleven years ago) link

Listening to “Tempest”, I can’t help wishing that one element Dylan would stop borrowing is the tradition of misogyny and objectification that is a recurring detail in a good few of these songs. Perhaps some of the more critical reviewers of the album could have examined this, rather than predicating their pieces on the apparent wrongheadedness of other reviewers, whose enthusiasm evidently doesn’t have the required ironic distance from the record.

Translation - "I hate Alexis Petridis"

Matt DC, Thursday, 13 September 2012 15:59 (eleven years ago) link

we will never agree on anything again like we agree on the awfulness of petridis

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 13 September 2012 16:01 (eleven years ago) link

I know of no dylan fans who claim his voice now is ideal

I love it. And it keeps getting better.

And Romney doesn't know what day it is... (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 13 September 2012 16:04 (eleven years ago) link

lit majors like Bob dylan & niki meange are the worst

Euler, Thursday, 13 September 2012 16:05 (eleven years ago) link

Actually I think Lex's take on the lyrics in particular is pretty interesting, because it highlights how problematic it has always been to talk about Dylan as some kind of literary figure. He absolutely is one of the greatest lyricists of all time (even though he's also written plenty of lame, lazy stuff), but trying to say exactly how or why is not a straightforward thing. It isn't about storytelling, exactly -- tho he's written good story songs -- or "characters" either, which are usually enigmatic and symbolic (and often just one-liners).

If you think something like "Frankie Lee and Judas Priest" is a great piece of writing, and I do, then you should be able to say why. But it's not easy, and I can imagine Lex or any other non-initiate reading the lyrics and saying, "So what? A few half-assed jokes, some borrowed mythology, big deal."

On the singing, of course, I'm in that camp that thinks he's one of the greatest singers of any kind in the last half-century. His voice is shot, obviously, but his phrasing is still sharp and I think in some ways he's gotten better with age. So I can't relate to any complaints on those fronts.

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 13 September 2012 16:06 (eleven years ago) link

I think shakedown is otm wrt voice status but isn't it almost magical how he still makes it work?

I think he's similar to Sinatra in the way he seems able to sing anything with ease.

niels, Thursday, 13 September 2012 16:11 (eleven years ago) link

" ... avuncular, the wry cackle of a codger who still has an eye for the ladies. [...] a raspy, phlegmy bark that’s not exactly melodic and by no means welcoming." —John Pareles, New York Times

" ... his zombie bullfrog holler" —Sean Daly, Tampa Bay Times

" … a battered instrument that sounds like a hoarse Fred Sanford after an all-night fight with Lamont." —Howard Cohen, Miami Herald"

" ... a gargle of a vocal ... " —Jim Fusili, Wall Street Journal

" … sounds as if he's been gargling with gravel for the last several decades." —Dan DeLuca, Philly.com

" ... sounds like he's been eating nuts and bolts for the past half-century ... " —Randall Roberts, L.A. Times' Pop & Hiss

" … fury and his ruined larynx combine to remarkable effect. The opening line comes out as a terrifying, incomprehensible growl that sounds like one of those death-metal vocalists in full flight." —Alex Pettridis, The Guardian

" ... like David Johansen after three packs of Pall Malls." —Justin, ChunkyGlasses.com

" ... At times it sounds (and seems) like this is Bob Dylan-pretending-to-be-Tom Waits-pretending-to-be Bob Dylan." —Simon Sweetman, Blog on the Tracks

"He sounds tubercular." —Jim Farber, New York Daily News

Mr. Que, Thursday, 13 September 2012 16:23 (eleven years ago) link

dylan is no sinatra

suare, Thursday, 13 September 2012 16:25 (eleven years ago) link

Alex Pettridis should stick to reviewing Nicky Melange iyam

Did communist FB take down the awesome bacon quran picture? (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 13 September 2012 16:26 (eleven years ago) link

Lol no but maybe Sinatra comes to mind when you listen to how Dylan delivers the lyrics freely in what sounds almost improvisational but still never misses a beat or something.

niels, Thursday, 13 September 2012 16:39 (eleven years ago) link

Can't tell if those blurbs are positive or negative but most of them are pretty good.

niels, Thursday, 13 September 2012 16:43 (eleven years ago) link

dunno i dont listen to dylan

suare, Thursday, 13 September 2012 16:43 (eleven years ago) link

I am actually listening to this now and only a couple of songs in but he actually sounds quite a bit like Louis Armstrong. It's a pretty good look for him.

Matt DC, Thursday, 13 September 2012 16:54 (eleven years ago) link

the riverboat gambler look he rocks now is so #swag

listen to that wu-tang whistle blowin' (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 13 September 2012 17:02 (eleven years ago) link

I like the first few tracks on this but the songs get pretty repetitive and dull after Long And Wasted Years. I've not really paid any attention to recent Dylan albums so I've no idea how this stacks up against them, but you'd certainly struggle to make a case for him being a great artist based on this record alone.

Matt DC, Thursday, 13 September 2012 18:00 (eleven years ago) link

That's a given but you could make a case that the record is really good. For me it's less repetitive with every listen (lol parad0x).

DiS has a nice one abt the voice "It’s like your grandfather telling stories about days gone by. No, he most certainly doesn’t sound pretty. But you find yourself snagged on every gnarled and crooked word." Hehe.

niels, Thursday, 13 September 2012 18:16 (eleven years ago) link

I love his voice too.

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 September 2012 18:26 (eleven years ago) link

guys did you know lex does not like Dylan

stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 13 September 2012 18:44 (eleven years ago) link

you may also be shocked to learn that he has uninformed opinions of roughly 75%(*) of music made in the 20th century

(* statistic derived from extensive, scientific database analyses of lex's ILM posts)

stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 13 September 2012 18:46 (eleven years ago) link

dylan's voice is unendingly hilarious, hardly any singer is more fun to sing along to or has been so fun to sing along to in as many different senses over his career

the big peaks on this album are "pay in blood" and "early roman kings" and in both cases it's mostly for the vocals: "early roman kings" for things like his vincent price voice on "tomorrow is friday / WE'LL SEE WHAT IT BRINGS" (i assume this is a crucifixion joke) and "pay in blood" for just being totally absurd, like that one live version of "high water" on tell tale signs where he's like HIWUHAHTEREVVVVVVVVVRYHUHWHURRRRRRRRRRRRR. ("pay in blood" is probably better, it is much lusher and prettier musically than almost everything else on the album, but i am a sucker for all the evil cartoon plutocrat stuff in "early roman kings", and for how well it works Primary Dylan Gimmick of collapsing image systems, maybe a polite phrase for cliches, into each other, so that american-progressive-era robber-baron caricatures and modern conspicuous consumption and the tarquins and the caesars and rock stars and finally bob dylan are smeared across each other into a single big hallucination). lots of other stuff on the first half is gorgeous too but in the end i don't think much of the big ambitious ones at the end -- some stuff i like a lot in the title track but the melody drives me insane. prefer "tin angel" because the gore's better. the less said about the lennon thing the better.

a hauntingly unemployed american (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 13 September 2012 19:07 (eleven years ago) link

i do love his pronunciation of "quarterdeck".

a hauntingly unemployed american (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 13 September 2012 19:15 (eleven years ago) link

I thought Lex's Dylan review was pretty good. I don't know if I agree with it, since I haven't heard "Tempest" yet, but I could understand someone having a similar reaction to, say, "Together Through Life". I thought he sounded a bit uninspired on that one. I loved "Modern Times" and most of "Love and Theft", but even there, I think you have to be quite sensitized to the subtle nuances in what's left of Dylan's voice to appreciate his delivery these days.

o. nate, Thursday, 13 September 2012 20:57 (eleven years ago) link

the vocals MAKE this album. Y'all know that.

mr.raffles, Friday, 14 September 2012 02:10 (eleven years ago) link

the music is really bizarre. totally repetitive, but with the most minor unique flourishes here an there. they're SO minor, ya wonder why they bothered... but they did... and then they go back to playing the exact same thing in the exact same way for another 32 bars.

Buncha weirdos!

mr.raffles, Friday, 14 September 2012 02:26 (eleven years ago) link

I enjoyed the Dylan vocal onomatopoeia in "difficult listening hour"s post above.

Speed the backing tracks up to 78 rpm and sometimes it could be Extreme Noise Terror.

Here he is with the classic "Poème Électronique." Good track (Marcello Carlin), Friday, 14 September 2012 08:32 (eleven years ago) link

so this thing got published, huh.

i've scarcely read anything on a putatively "respectable" website so flip, so uncomprehending, so sure of its own contrarian brilliance and yet so devoid of insight, so filled with hasty and erroneous generalization, misdescription, false analogy -- and that's just in the first few paragraphs. i couldn't read any more.

i'm sure you're a nice guy and all, alex, and no doubt you have family and friends that love you, and talents galore. but good fucking lord are you a horrible writer. thanks for wasting a few minutes of my life.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 14 September 2012 10:26 (eleven years ago) link

re. dylan's voice, it does sound like each individual drop of phlegm has been close-mic'ed.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 14 September 2012 10:28 (eleven years ago) link

this album is wearing a little thin after a bunch of plays. i'm just not hearing new stuff in the arrangements or even in his phrasing. and there are only really four or five tracks that really satisfy. i doubt i'll be listening to this very much in the future. but it still one of his better late albums, i suppose.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 14 September 2012 10:32 (eleven years ago) link

everyone talks as though writing sensitively about lyrics is so hard. it takes time and effort, and it helps to have training in scansion and prosody, but it's not really all that difficult. just most rock critics can't or won't expend the effort, governed as they are by quick judgements/challenging opinions® and looming deadlines.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 14 September 2012 10:35 (eleven years ago) link

Lex is a very good writer when he writes about what he knows or is interested in. I go by his recommendations for a lot of things, but not in relation to Bob Dylan.

Here he is with the classic "Poème Électronique." Good track (Marcello Carlin), Friday, 14 September 2012 10:37 (eleven years ago) link

Ha, amateurist, you are right about that article. Sentences like A sole ill-fated attempt to get into him – in my defence I was an easily misled 18-year-old, still briefly beholden to the Greatest Albums Ever lists churned out by the music press – ended two-and-a-half songs into a best-of compilation with me flinging the CD out of the window, outraged that anyone could have the temerity to sing like that and call it art, in which - almost marvellously - every significant word is an ugly cliche make me want to "fling something out of a window".

Eyeball Kicks, Friday, 14 September 2012 10:39 (eleven years ago) link

I think the central fault here is whoever commissioned him to do a purposely challops piece to wind up Grauniad readers.

Here he is with the classic "Poème Électronique." Good track (Marcello Carlin), Friday, 14 September 2012 10:45 (eleven years ago) link

i'd say the fault is shared between editor and author. but i take your point.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 14 September 2012 11:27 (eleven years ago) link

Anyone read the RS cover story? Does this interpretation jive with reality?

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 14 September 2012 14:55 (eleven years ago) link

i think you mean jibe

Mr. Que, Friday, 14 September 2012 15:05 (eleven years ago) link

Yes.

At the news stand yesterday the guy said he was sold out!

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 14 September 2012 15:11 (eleven years ago) link

got tickets for his verizon center show in dc, never seen him before, figured i would regret it if he croaks soonish

spazzmatazz, Friday, 14 September 2012 15:16 (eleven years ago) link

i just got tix for the colorado show. what the heck! he better be playing some of the new stuff. weirdly, this last tour saw him breaking back into together through life after ignoring it aside from "forgetful heart" for the last two years or so.

tylerw, Friday, 14 September 2012 15:17 (eleven years ago) link

the real controversy about this is "ellen allien, the legendary techno producer"...

Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Friday, 14 September 2012 15:42 (eleven years ago) link

is there anyone in the comments who's like "SHE DOESN'T EVEN PLAY HER OWN INSTRUMENTS COME ON"

tylerw, Friday, 14 September 2012 15:47 (eleven years ago) link

i was pleasantly surprised to read in these comments the nicest guardian BTL post about me i've ever seen!

lex pretend, Friday, 14 September 2012 15:49 (eleven years ago) link

I bet Bob Dylan could make a better record with Tobias Freund xpost.

Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Friday, 14 September 2012 15:50 (eleven years ago) link


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