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I've read both X-Ray and Kink. Ray's book is, of course, excellent and one of the better rockstar-written things I've read. But Dave's book was surprisingly good, particularly the parts when he's giving his take on Swinging London and the Kinks' Seventies tours of America -- he (or his ghostwriter) is actually a lot funnier than Ray, believe it or not. And the passage in Kink where Dave sarcastically fantasizes about taking the piss outta Springsteen when the Kinks were being inducted in the Hall of Fame is hilariously funny. Those aspects of Kink almost make the New Age/pseudo-hippie BS tolerable (which passages make one understand why Ray used to periodically beat the shit outta Dave).

Re Zappa: his own book is pretty good, but I like more the books written about him to be more fascinating. And one of the weirdest books I've ever read is The Negative Dialectic of Poodle Play, where a British academic tries to integrate Marx, Freud and Adorno into Zappa's oeuvre and even goes so far as to compare Zappa to James Joyce. It's a bit much even for a big-time Zappa-head like myself, and it's mostly bullshit, but it's fascinating and well-executed bullshit.

Tadeusz Suchodolski, Friday, 15 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Oh yeah, I notice no-one's mentioned Pete Townshend's The Horse's Neck.

I presume that's for the best, yes?

Tadeusz Suchodolski, Friday, 15 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Tadeusz: Ben Watson (author of NegDiPoo, non-Zappa fans) is so NOT an "academic" (I mean ,yeah, Cambridge long ago blah blah — but he lives on his freelance wits as a record reviewer and poet... God knows how, since both of these pay dick!)

John Cale: What's Welsh for Zen?

mark s, Friday, 15 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I read The Horse's Neck. I can remember the stories reasonably well, but not much about what I thought of them in any critical sense. Perhaps it's crap, but it's not without charm, and could have been much, much worse.

If I were to recommend a book by a musician...probably Stravinsky's Poetics of Music, or the writings of Debussy ("Monsieur Croche the Dilettante Hater") or Satie, or maybe a collection of Morton Feldman's essays that I once read. Composers often make each others' best biographers, too (i.e. George Perle on Berg). The only other book written by a pop musician I can think of, besides The Horse's Neck, that I've read was John Lennon's Skywriting by Word of Mouth, which was an amusing trifle with a few cute bits. Oh, and I also have a used paperback of Jim Morrison's poetry, which I'm glad to have (thanks, Mom) but I've never even tried to read -- why would I, when I could read something good instead? And now that I think about it (ah, the truth comes out), I have a book of Jimi Hendrix's poetry and fragments (Cherokee Mist) and a Jerry Garcia book stashed away somewhere; both were gifts, and neither were particularly compelling/memorable.

Phil, Saturday, 16 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

other's, that is.

Phil, Saturday, 16 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

recently read a bk of short stories by Kevin Coyne (i'm not at all familiar with his music tho' what i have heard i liked) - it was real good, consisted mainly of sad little humourous vignettes of has-been pop stars .

duane, Tuesday, 19 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

two years pass...
Ed Sanders (The Fugs) - The Family (an account of the Manson family written in a unique style).

Bob Six (bobbysix), Thursday, 29 January 2004 13:49 (twenty years ago) link

I loved Actual Air by David Berman.

David Allen (David Allen), Thursday, 29 January 2004 14:25 (twenty years ago) link

'Straight Life' by Art Pepper. It's the end, and all you squares who don't have it are definitely Dullsville

a great book but a truly asd tale of a very talented musician. I like the original large paperback layout better than the recent smaller paperback editions...

books by Nick Cave and Lydia Lunch should be avoided at all cost.

end of time, Thursday, 29 January 2004 15:08 (twenty years ago) link

Aside from "Actual Air", musicians' poetry is largely crap and deserves its own thread as such. Have you read Ashanti's "Watch Me Glisten"? Exactly.

Other good stuff:
"Really the Blues" by Mezz Mezzrow
"Is That It?" by Bob Geldof was much better than I imagined it would be.
"Go Now" was, too! but then I promptly forgot I'd read it immediately after putting it down :/

Donna Brown (Donna Brown), Thursday, 29 January 2004 17:39 (twenty years ago) link

Anyone else read "New York Rocker - my life in the Blank Generation" by Gary Valentine (ex-Blondie)?

It's an unitentional hoot...he's obsessed with proving that he's the person who introduced the short hair and skinny tie to Blondie (for the men).

The photos are a classic - "Note my short tie and skinny tie"....."Note length of hair" - next to a photo of Chris Stein.

The guy's a complete wally jumblat.

Bob Six (bobbysix), Thursday, 29 January 2004 20:08 (twenty years ago) link

I rue the day I didn't buy Vanilla Ice's Ice by Ice, which the one time I ever saw it on the store shelf I remember picking up and finding "Awww yeah" and "Word to your mother" on every third page.

M Matos (M Matos), Thursday, 29 January 2004 20:51 (twenty years ago) link

five years pass...

Killers, Angels, Refugees and Mirrors, Dreams and Miracles by Peter Hammill. Both have some interesting short stories alongside his collected lyrics up to 1980.

anagram, Sunday, 3 January 2010 17:56 (fourteen years ago) link

"Are You Experienced?", by Noel Redding and Carol Appleby. Goes into detail about drug use, drinking, management problems, the whole lot.

an executive by day and a wild man by night (snoball), Sunday, 3 January 2010 18:14 (fourteen years ago) link

Hip Hop Literature TS:

The Ice Opinion - Ice T & Heidi Sigmund

The Wu Tang Manual - RZA

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51tq1LHrIFL._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-sticker-arrow-click,TopRight,35,-76_AA240_SH20_OU01_.jpg

m0stlyClean, Sunday, 3 January 2010 19:16 (fourteen years ago) link

is there a thread for crap books by musicians? if so, slash's autobiography belongs on there. never cared much for guns n roses but i figured his book might be entertaining, like the motley crue one but for someone who led such a wild life, he sure knows how to distill it down into one almighty tedious read. the main thing i took from the book was that axl rose sounded like a very interesting guy, which i'm guessing wasn't slash's intention.

neil sedaka's autobio is pretty great, comes across as a warm friendly guy though i don't think anyone ever needed to read his description about losing his virginity. similarly, mick fleetwood's book is worth reading, a good honest account of the big years by a good honest guy. nothing earth-shattering but very readable. same goes for barry white to the power 10, he has this crazy almost-sleazy-but-not way of writing and tbh the guy comes across as godlike. love him even more after reading that.

didn't care much for ian hunter's diary. not a big fan of mott but his diary just seemed pretty banal and his writing is all abc fisher price nothingness. don't understand the fuss about it.

not strictly by a musician but michael francis's star man is a good account of life working as a roadie for led zeppelin, bon jovi, cher, sheena easton.

also books i've not read in years but loved at the time and im planning on buying again: autobios by pete waterman, holly johnson and marc almond. 45 is awesome too, but drummond's recent book 17 is more of a grumpy rant - i never quite grasped what was so wildly exciting about recording a bunch of people humming and then wiping the tape. plus he lost me when he stood in front of a bunch of primary school kids and told them that all recorded music was rubbish. bit of a prick's trick.

NI, Monday, 4 January 2010 21:22 (fourteen years ago) link

"You Don't Have To Say You Love Me" by Simon Napier-Bell.

an executive by day and a wild man by night (snoball), Monday, 4 January 2010 21:31 (fourteen years ago) link

two years pass...

Bill Callahan, Kristin Hersh, Michael Gira

dollar eye twinkling (admrl), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 16:01 (twelve years ago) link

Are any of these any cop?

dollar eye twinkling (admrl), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 16:01 (twelve years ago) link

Am I the only person in the world who actually *enjoyed* "And The Ass Saw The Angel"?

No, I liked it quite a bit.

dollar eye twinkling (admrl), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 16:02 (twelve years ago) link

I loved it but I thought The Death of Bunny Munro was abysmal.

Gira's The Consumer is a mixed bag (and very hard to get hold of nowadays). IIRC it's divided into stories he wrote during Swans' 80s hardcore phase and later ones. The earlier ones were much better.

ban this sick stunt (anagram), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 16:08 (twelve years ago) link

Oh yeah, I notice no-one's mentioned Pete Townshend's The Horse's Neck.

I presume that's for the best, yes?

― Tadeusz Suchodolski, Thursday, June 14, 2001 8:00 PM (10 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Yes. Yes it is.

Actually, it's not a bad read, and likely the most illuminating account of his 1979-1982 heroin addiction years. Said illumination, however, is not without its embarrassing moments, intentional and otherwise.

His autobio Who He? is due out in October.

Let A Man Come In And Do The Cop Porn (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 16:13 (twelve years ago) link

Robert Fripp is supposed to be writing some kind of book detailing his various run-ins with the music industry. Should be a corker, if it ever appears.

ban this sick stunt (anagram), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 16:15 (twelve years ago) link

^^^ anticipating the hell out of

Steamtable Willie (WmC), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 16:17 (twelve years ago) link

Ed Sanders Fug You, a unique perspective of the lower east side in the 1960s. It is amazing. So Far, anyway. I am about a third of the way through it.

Trip Maker, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 16:21 (twelve years ago) link

Reading between the lines of Fripp's online diary, I'd guess the book is in the editing process now, by the way.

Steamtable Willie (WmC), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 16:23 (twelve years ago) link

Enjoyed Dean Wareham's memoir.

Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 16:24 (twelve years ago) link

No mentions so far of David Toop (22 album credits on discogs, many instrumental/production credits dating back to 1971).

Rap Attack (1984, 1992, 1999)
Ocean of Sound: Aether Talk, Ambient Sound and Imaginary Worlds (1995)
Exotica: Fabricated Landcapes in a Real World (1999)
Haunted Weather: Music, Silence and Memory (2010)

I've only read Ocean of Sound which is a great book length version of what could have been The Wire magazine featurettes (he writes for them as well) on ambient music precursors and pioneers. Just learned about Haunted Weather which is apparently about 21st century laptop music, and on my wishlist.

Pauper Management Improved (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 17:03 (twelve years ago) link

You left off Sinister Resonance, which I just read. Lots of fascinating ideas but it was a hard slog at times.

dollar eye twinkling (admrl), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 17:06 (twelve years ago) link

Bill Bruford's The Autobiography (2009) is rather great.
Rick Wakeman's Say Yes! is a good, if somewhat slim, read too.

t**t, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 18:25 (twelve years ago) link

Bill Bruford's The Autobiography (2009) is rather great.

i still have this lying around unread. :(

i did enjoy phill brown's "are we still rolling?" though.

40oz of tears (Jordan), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 18:28 (twelve years ago) link

also need to read that niles rodgers one.

40oz of tears (Jordan), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 18:28 (twelve years ago) link

nile

40oz of tears (Jordan), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 18:29 (twelve years ago) link

I have that Art Pepper book, mentioned upthread, lying about pretty much unread for years.
And Leonard Cohen's Beautiful Losers hasn't progressed further than p.80.

t**t, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 18:34 (twelve years ago) link

B-b-b-ut I've read a book of the late Kevin Coyne's short stories. What I can recall of them, the mode of a few of them was kinda sorta Kafka-esque...

t**t, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 18:36 (twelve years ago) link

Kafka meets Les Dawson

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 18:38 (twelve years ago) link

Another vote for Art Pepper.

Averroes's Search Engine (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 18:39 (twelve years ago) link

Possible. Tho I kno nuthink of Les Dawson :(

t**t, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 18:40 (twelve years ago) link

Dennis Coffey's book was pretty good.

Averroes's Search Engine (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 18:41 (twelve years ago) link

A GIS may suffice (xp)

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 18:42 (twelve years ago) link

??

t**t, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 18:43 (twelve years ago) link

google image search

Averroes's Search Engine (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 18:43 (twelve years ago) link

o I did that, avtually:)

t**t, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 18:44 (twelve years ago) link

"In a BBC TV documentary about his life, he spoke of his love for some canonical figures in English literature, in particular the 19th Century essayist Charles Lamb, whose somewhat florid style influenced Dawson's own."

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 18:45 (twelve years ago) link

Neil Peart's "Ghost Rider." Found it to be, for the most part, a moving and instructional account of how to cope with profound grief.

SongOfSam, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 18:46 (twelve years ago) link

I know Mike Nesmith's written a couple of novels, never even seen 'em tho

Charles Kennedy Jumped Up, He Called 'Oh No'. (Tom D.), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 18:48 (twelve years ago) link

(Thanks, Tom D.)

t**t, Tuesday, 28 February 2012 18:51 (twelve years ago) link

I think I saw them in a bookstore between the Kinky Friedman and Jimmy Buffett murder mysteries.

Averroes's Search Engine (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 18:56 (twelve years ago) link

Actually I recently read about half of a pretty good post-apocalyptic noir novel by a guy from Shudder To Think. Remember them? I don't. Nathan Larson, The Dewey Decimal System. Oh yeah, he is married to the lead singer of The Cardigans.

Averroes's Search Engine (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 18:59 (twelve years ago) link

Robert Fripp is supposed to be writing some kind of book detailing his various run-ins with the music industry. Should be a corker, if it ever appears.

― ban this sick stunt (anagram), Tuesday, February 28, 2012 10:15 AM (2 weeks ago)

Fripp has withdrawn the book from the university press that wanted to publish it, because he didn't like the contract terms. http://www.dgmlive.com/diaries.htm?entry=21262

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Tuesday, 13 March 2012 14:33 (twelve years ago) link

"How Bluegrass Music Destroyed My Life" by John Fahey is a great book, really entertaining (and funny) on many levels. Can't recommend it enough.

grandavis, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 14:43 (twelve years ago) link

the drumbo bk is more than a 'bit messy' - it's p much a disaster, unfortunately. the text switches between meandering first person narrative (three pages on the kind of trousers john french and pals wore back in the 1950s etc) that's interspersed w/ chunks of seemingly verbatim interview transcripts that almost never offer any additional insight or coherence. admittedly i haven't made it to the 'good stuff' yet (ie 'my years in the beefheart cult'/what a bad bad person uncle don was), but i sorta lost the will to live after the first 100 pages or so. i'm not exactly a beefheart novice, but i easily got lost in all the different names and places that flit in and out of the narrative and which a decent editor - ANY kind of editor - would've helped organise in a much more reader-friendly fashion. the mike barnes and bill harkelroad bks are def less comprehensive - and props to drumbo for trying to nail down so many of the vliet-myths and boasts - but so much better reads-as-reads

Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 13 March 2012 14:51 (twelve years ago) link

I'm really curious about this book by Alice Bag, recently published.

http://alicebag.com/sitebuilder/images/ViolenceGirlPoster-408x600.jpg

Anyone here read it yet? I love The Bags, and that whole early LA punk scene is fascinating.

collardio gelatinous, Friday, 16 March 2012 01:32 (twelve years ago) link

Anyone read Lenny Kaye's book about crooners in the 1930s? I've had it on my shelf for years but haven't read it, and I'm thinking about putting it in the cull pile.

Carlos Pollomar (WmC), Friday, 16 March 2012 01:40 (twelve years ago) link

i read that kaye book a while back. don't recall *too* much about it, but it was entertaining in a nick tosches-kinda way. some interesting stories about the time period.

tylerw, Friday, 16 March 2012 02:15 (twelve years ago) link

really need to read "How Bluegrass Music Destroyed My Life"

tylerw, Friday, 16 March 2012 02:16 (twelve years ago) link

Fripp has withdrawn the book from the university press that wanted to publish it, because he didn't like the contract terms

oh ffs

my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Friday, 16 March 2012 08:36 (twelve years ago) link

There is another Fahey book as well, but I haven't read it yet. Gotta find it, as if it's anywhere near as enteraining as "How Bluegrass Music Destroyed My Life" then it promises to be a real treat.

grandavis, Friday, 16 March 2012 16:51 (twelve years ago) link

eight years pass...

Jonathan Meiburg out of Shearwater is an ornithologist, and he has written a book about the striated caracara:

https://media.s-bol.com/36J12qyjNGnA/550x803.jpg

joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Tuesday, 9 February 2021 09:46 (three years ago) link

the guy behind Ant-Bee put out some books on early 70s rockers including Grand funk Railroad (which I think I have but haven't looked at much)

Stevolende, Tuesday, 9 February 2021 10:01 (three years ago) link

.....apparently dude from Cromags has written a self help book....

m0stlyClean, Tuesday, 9 February 2021 14:47 (three years ago) link

three years pass...

books by Nick Cave and Lydia Lunch should be avoided at all cost.

― end of time, Thursday, January 29, 2004 10:08 AM (twenty years ago) bookmarkflaglink

can't say for sure about lydia but i wouldn't avoid nick's books. the sick bag song!

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 24 April 2024 20:57 (one month ago) link


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