new bloc party album - a weekend in the city

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Hey, if we're really lucky, we'll find out the version we've heard isn't the actual album either.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 23 November 2006 14:23 (seventeen years ago) link

"Band actually another band."

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 23 November 2006 14:28 (seventeen years ago) link

geeeez, 'the prayer' is really really awful for a band with such pretentions. and i liked silent alarm. man

rizzx (Rizz), Thursday, 23 November 2006 14:28 (seventeen years ago) link

We should have noticed: the first cover was by a completely different band called BLOC PARTY (no . after their name). This one is by the real BLOC PARTY. .

Is that leak by BLOC PARTY or by BLOC PARTY. ?

StanM (StanM), Thursday, 23 November 2006 14:34 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...
Now that I've normalized the volume and really sat down and listened to this, I'm loving the second half of the album. But then, as much as I loved Silent Alarm, "This Modern Love" was always my favorite off it.

Anyone else find the track order on this odd? Switch "On" and "Where Is Home" and the two halves almost seem like different bands. Different moods for sure.

turkey (turkey), Monday, 8 January 2007 08:08 (seventeen years ago) link

The artwork; Supergrass' 'Road to Rouen' anyone?

ben talbot (PaeganTerror), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 00:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Maybe similar, but this is nicer.

Johnny Fever (johnny fever), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 01:03 (seventeen years ago) link

that interview in the guardian is pretty emo.

keyth (keyth), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 02:34 (seventeen years ago) link

i feel like this may be one of those records that was so bad upon first listen that i may not go back to it again... please say i'm wrong?

tk (tk), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 03:12 (seventeen years ago) link

Here's a link to The Guardian piece - http://music.guardian.co.uk/rock/story/0,,1984350,00.html

I found this article a little disturbing and a little irritating. The former because of McLean's seeming desperation for Kele to say "I fuck boys, don't you fuck boys?", and the second because it makes no mention whatsoever of Luke Sutherland, singer from Long Fin Killie and Bows, who did the intelligent, dreadlocked, black, gay indie singer "schtick" (if there is such a thing) a decade before Kele (not that it makes it any easier for Kele to be who he is), and also did it in Scotland, which I would imagine is a damn site more difficult than doing it in the South East / London. It's such an obvious comparison to make, and I think asking Okereke if he knows of Sutherland and if so how he feels about him would have been a damn site more interesting than the goading that some of the piece borders on.

Also, Jacknife Lee is an awful, awful record producer.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 10:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Also, David McAlmont.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 10:41 (seventeen years ago) link

To gank zings from another forum, no matter how hard he tries, Kele will never be as gay as his band's music.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 10:49 (seventeen years ago) link

I don't really get yr Luke Sutherland point. Well I get the basics of it, but I'd have thought that all his bands (discounting Mogwai) sold in the low thousands, and this is in the Observer. Mclean seems to have a hard enough time of it as it is to paint Kele as, y'know, someone that casual Observer readers Should Be Interested In, without adding a wilfully (albeit unjustifiably) obscure figure like Sutherland into matters.

OTM re: the production, though, I'm not really a fan of this band anyway to be honest but it has this bloodless nu-emoish sheen that's just killed any interest for me.

Feargal Hixxy (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 10:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Luke Sutherland, singer from Long Fin Killie and Bows ... such an obvious comparison to make

the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 10:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Given that Sutherland's also an acclaimed author, I'd have thought he was exactly the type of person that Observer readers would like to fetishise.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 11:05 (seventeen years ago) link

TS - complaining the interview harps on about his sexuality vs. complaining he doesn't make references to other black gay singers. Like OMG he didn't mention Skin from Skunk Anansie either!

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 11:07 (seventeen years ago) link

Ladies Love Cool Kele

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 11:09 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm more bothered about the WAY it harps on, not that it harps on at all. But yeah, if you're making a point about him being black and gay, surely your obliged to consider other black gay people rather than treat him as unique and thus fetishise him more and cause him more grief.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 11:11 (seventeen years ago) link

Little Richard!

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 11:13 (seventeen years ago) link

Even people who know him as a novelist aren't especially likely to know him as a musician, I'd have said. I feel like in terms of a coherent piece, it would just complicate matters for the sake of namechecking some dude who was in a good band once

Feargal Hixxy (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 11:13 (seventeen years ago) link

But yeah, if you're making a point about him being black and gay, surely your obliged to consider other black gay people rather than treat him as unique and thus fetishise him more and cause him more grief.

Actually I disagree, shoehorning other artists in there purely on that basis is condescending as fuck.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 11:18 (seventeen years ago) link

yr choices as observer writer are: studiously avoid discussion of race and sexuality or make a right old meal out of it. mclean went for option two, and if nick's right (cos srsly i have never heard of Long Fin Killie and Bows) then it seems he didn't do his job. but it was a teethgrindingly condescending article in the first place.

the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 11:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Pretending no one has ever been black and gay before isn't? Almost completely avoiding talking about the music isn't? x-post.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 11:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Yes its a dreadful article and yes it mostly ignores the record and yes its condescending but surely going "oh, he's a bit like this other guy who was black and gay and in an indie band none of you have heard of" is only going to make it more so. Are they supposed to be kindred spirits or something?

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 11:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Well arguably there's big musical similarities between BP and LFK too, especially LFK's third album when they had a different drummer (who Matt Tong is similar too) - both could certainly be described as "artrock". Given the article's hang-up on Kele's lyrics being about his sexuality then Sutherland's a touchstone for that too. They've got more similarities than dreadlocks and fancying blokes, and I think "here's another intelligent, educated, gay black man singing in an artrock band with postpunk influences only he's from Scotland and therefore didn't get 10% of the media frenzy you've had" would be an interesting angle. Much more interesting than "please say you're gay; oh your new album's great by the way (and would be even greater if you said you were gay, please)".

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 11:51 (seventeen years ago) link

You're reaching, Nick. LFK ain't that relevant, or interesting.

Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 12:25 (seventeen years ago) link

Um I think LFK's coming from Scotland was a pretty small factor in their obscurity, against (a) the fact they were a lot more weird and full on than Bloc Party have ever been and (b) they were around at the apogee of Britpop

Feargal Hixxy (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 12:28 (seventeen years ago) link

My entire motivation here is that I listened to Cassidy by Bows on Saturday night, thoroughly enjoyed it, thought "Isn't Luke Sutherland a genius" again, and then read this...

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 13:01 (seventeen years ago) link

In turn I'm gonna try and listen to 'Valentino' later, so all's well thatzzzzzz

Feargal Hixxy (DJ Mencap), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 13:10 (seventeen years ago) link

God, wasn't that piece just so terribly subtle.

"Yes, Kele might be...BLACK and GAY!!!1!!"

SAVE IT FOR THE CAKE LIST YOU CRAZY BROAD (patog27), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 13:23 (seventeen years ago) link

haha you know why the dumb white indie kidz listen to party block? so they can say "oh i listen to BLACK PEOPLE MUSIC and so i am not a racism" without listening to hip hop ahahahaha
-- ESTEBAN BUTTEZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (estebanbuttezforeve...), September 17th, 2005.

the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 13:29 (seventeen years ago) link

That comment may needed a little editing.

SAVE IT FOR THE CAKE LIST YOU CRAZY BROAD (patog27), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 13:30 (seventeen years ago) link

buttez is dead and so are his iffy soundbites

You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 13:44 (seventeen years ago) link

not so louis jagger :0(

the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 13:47 (seventeen years ago) link

if i was being generous that zing would receive 1.3 out of 10

You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 13:50 (seventeen years ago) link

Enrique dude you just got pwned by Louis Jagger.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 14:51 (seventeen years ago) link

In time, Louis will start pwning more and more of us, as we get old, and our reactions slow, and he learns from the collected wisdom of the archives.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 14:52 (seventeen years ago) link

Louis, if you were black and gay do you think your life would have taken a different route?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 14:53 (seventeen years ago) link

I'd have probably been successfully stalked by the Lex by now.

You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 14:56 (seventeen years ago) link

i have retreated from the field, bloodied.

the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 14:56 (seventeen years ago) link

Man, I was thinking of setting up a new "lol britpop" thread this afternoon, but Louis has just guaranteed another 200 posts to this thread.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 14:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Well, what did you expect me to say? As a hypothetical question it was a pretty stunning failure!

You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 14:59 (seventeen years ago) link

I'd have probably been successfully stalked by the Lex by now.

This means you'd succumb to his insideous Somerset homosexual advances?

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 15:10 (seventeen years ago) link

Look, Nick, I still haven't forgiven you for sharing a name with the man who's beaten Charlton in the FA Cup with BOTH Gillingham AND Notts forest.

You've Got Scourage On Your Breath (Haberdager), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 15:15 (seventeen years ago) link

Much better thread...

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 15:19 (seventeen years ago) link

I made the "black and gay" jokes with Dom, AGES AGO. Sheesh.

SAVE IT FOR THE CAKE LIST YOU CRAZY BROAD (patog27), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 15:20 (seventeen years ago) link

sweet baby jesus, that thread. i was looking for it, but not very hard. and indeed, the latest addition to it mentions me. *shakes head*

the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 15:27 (seventeen years ago) link

that piece was good. yeah so it doesnt talk about the muuuuusic (maaaan) that much but how is it a bad thing for race representation of black artists in the media to focus on kele being black, gay and an indie rocker? i welcome more people like kele being open about that sort of thing. it didnt do that to the point of excluding other things like the london-focus of the album.

titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Thursday, 11 January 2007 15:31 (seventeen years ago) link

"black, gay and an indie rocker? i welcome more people like kele being open about that sort of thing"

24 carat gold

the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Thursday, 11 January 2007 15:33 (seventeen years ago) link

I must add, I think there are a few moments on the record where Kele is singing "in character" rather than as himself. In 'Hunting for Witches', for example. 'SRXT' too, even if he does throw his father's name in there.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Tuesday, 21 August 2018 17:10 (five years ago) link

'SRXT' is a perfect, if very sad, ending to this record - one of those closers where you have to take a minute or so to gather yourself after the album has finished. The silence after the album has ended ends up being part of the experience.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Tuesday, 21 August 2018 17:12 (five years ago) link

three months pass...

this is probably my favorite album that kinda sucks

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Thursday, 13 December 2018 22:27 (five years ago) link

haha yes

husked, tonal wails (irrational), Thursday, 13 December 2018 22:34 (five years ago) link

that's a good thread idea actually

resident hack (Simon H.), Thursday, 13 December 2018 22:35 (five years ago) link

The odd clunky lyric aside, I actually don't think this album sucks.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 13 December 2018 22:44 (five years ago) link

(I do wish they'd split up after Moakes and Tong had left, though)

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Thursday, 13 December 2018 22:45 (five years ago) link

four months pass...

listened to this album for the first time in 12 years last week. i hated it then, but i was 17 so what did i know. I still mostly dislike it but I think it really comes together starting at Kreuzberg, and the last few songs are nice bits of melodrama. maybe it's because the second half is a bit less sonically adventurous than the first half, maybe because they focus less on leaden social commentary, maybe because each song just has 1 good idea in it as opposed to 12 dueling ideas. either way, i definitely appreciate it a bit more than i did then, even though i still think the drums often feel like they're being beamed in from a different planet where a different band is playing a different song.

and i guess brad is otm upthread about the b-sides--my favorite songs on the spotify version, besides maybe srxt, are flux and selfish son

i think ur a controp (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 21:38 (five years ago) link

Yeah, there were some fine B-sides around this period, but there's absolutely nothing I would change about this record. The tracklisting as originally released, that is, not the re-release with 'Flux' on it.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Tuesday, 7 May 2019 21:46 (five years ago) link

four years pass...

need to take a long hard look in the mirror over the fact that none of my previous custom weekend in the city tracklists included "once and future king"

ivy (BradNelson), Friday, 16 June 2023 19:38 (one year ago) link

there's always one night per year where the only song i can listen to is "uniform"

J0rdan S., Friday, 16 June 2023 20:03 (one year ago) link

it's not as good as any of their records but if you were going to make a timeline of albums throughout history that led to the 1975's career this would have to be on it, which counts as high praise in my book

J0rdan S., Friday, 16 June 2023 20:06 (one year ago) link

absolutely

ivy (BradNelson), Friday, 16 June 2023 20:41 (one year ago) link


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