King Crimson: Classic Or Dud

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I remember hearing a great story of Belew trying out for Bowie's band. They had him do "Heroes" and he struggled to do the song justice. It was only at the end that they told him the studio version was several guitars, after Belew had done his best to approximate all parts at once.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 12:51 (eleven years ago) link

Absent Lovers is great. My MP3s of it became corrupt on a decaying DVD-R so I really should get out there and replace it. A live version of 'Red'!

QUOTE sampling at a higher rate UNQUOTE (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 26 September 2012 15:36 (eleven years ago) link

Ahhhh hah ha that Heat book upthread is cracking me up, imagining the Tuscan butcher as Fripp

Brakhage, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 17:19 (eleven years ago) link

Will track down Absent Lovers

Brakhage, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 17:19 (eleven years ago) link

I had Absent Lovers when it was a bootleg back in the early 90s -- the version of "ToaPP" is particularly awesome. Pretty sure it's their last concert before breaking up.

Naive Teen Idol, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 17:48 (eleven years ago) link

The '82 tour discs (collectors club releases, all) have fripp ripping into some pretty expansive versions of the Sheltering Sky, as well better-than-the-album takes on the Beat tracks.

WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 26 September 2012 19:06 (eleven years ago) link

That was kinda easy

Brakhage, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 20:30 (eleven years ago) link

Daaaaaaaamn this is fierce

Brakhage, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 20:41 (eleven years ago) link

Compare and contrast, quartet vs. double trio.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdlbkVWYmW4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQ_72lms-OM

Shockingly, '90s fashion more '80s than '80s fashion.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 20:46 (eleven years ago) link

This is the lineup, from 2008, I wish stuck around: Fripp, Belew, Levin, Pat and Gavin from Porcupine Tree, who brings so much. And none of that lame Trey Gunn dude.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1w0vxQ-ueCI

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 20:50 (eleven years ago) link

Like, listen to the drums on this one alone ...

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 20:51 (eleven years ago) link

'absent lovers' is so much better than the '80s studio records, i listened to it a ton in college. listening to that youtube it sounds, uh, nerdier than i remember but still amazing.

have a sandwich or ice cream sandwich (Jordan), Wednesday, 26 September 2012 20:59 (eleven years ago) link

Level 5 is by far the best of the latter-day Larks Tongues sequels

WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 26 September 2012 21:14 (eleven years ago) link

I thought The Power to Believe as a whole was quite underrated as a record.

frogbs, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 21:18 (eleven years ago) link

I played those two Frame By Frames at the same time. Really gorgeous, but you have to be clever with the pause button.

Three Word Username, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 21:26 (eleven years ago) link

dectet

Brakhage, Wednesday, 26 September 2012 21:42 (eleven years ago) link

Power To Believe, like so much of KC's studio stuff, is surpassed by contemporaneous live material. I think you can even hear the crowd noise on the "studio" version of Level 5.

WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 26 September 2012 23:17 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

That Larks' box set:

http://www.dgmlive.com/diary/photos/13oct6v.jpg

WilliamC, Monday, 29 October 2012 11:49 (eleven years ago) link

six months pass...

The idea of Fripp and Toyah on a celebrity game show, even for charity, is doing my head in. I hope somebody records this and puts it on youtube.

http://www.itv.com/presscentre/ep2week19/all-star-mr-mrs

What makes a man start threads? (WilliamC), Wednesday, 8 May 2013 12:27 (eleven years ago) link

I recall being similarly surprised when he turned up on I'm A Celebrity, Get Me Out of Here! to welcome back Toyah (who had just been evicted). He was really relaxed on it, too.

my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Wednesday, 8 May 2013 12:30 (eleven years ago) link

Sort of reminds me of when Faith No More's drummer was a contestent on "Who Wants to be A Millionaire:"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_iNK0mBKrQ

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 8 May 2013 14:24 (eleven years ago) link

His buddy he brought along is "Robert, Rob Trujillo.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 8 May 2013 14:25 (eleven years ago) link

I'm kind of not surprised that Fripp would be on a show like this. He's a surprisingly funny and entertaining guy in his own weird way.

Moodles, Wednesday, 8 May 2013 14:32 (eleven years ago) link

maybe he will announce boastfully that he did it for the tail
that seems to be his way

free your spirit pig (La Lechera), Wednesday, 8 May 2013 14:41 (eleven years ago) link

Footage from Koyaanisqatsi set to "The Court of the Crimson King":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2dgtXzNhgo

誤訳侮辱, Sunday, 12 May 2013 21:29 (eleven years ago) link

Sorry, been drinkin'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tYgwk_ngek

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 12 May 2013 23:27 (eleven years ago) link

The Internet provides

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64VGyoIyBgc

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 07:26 (eleven years ago) link

The overdubbed Soundscape is pure class.

Three Word Username, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 07:39 (eleven years ago) link

That's lovely. Who would ever guess Robert Fripp was such a heartwarming ol' softy?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 15:02 (eleven years ago) link

There's something both kind of sad but also completely predictable and, yes, sweet about Fripp and Toyah not having kids. Having worshiped Fripp for so long as a teenager, I can totally see why the thought of him as someone's dad is horrifying. But there's also something kind of sad about someone for whom culture, mum and "what is proper" not having the chance to pass that along as a parent. OTOH, it's abundantly clear that these two not only love each other deeply but have a rip-roaring sex life, so...

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 20:00 (eleven years ago) link

I actually had some suspicions that Fripp was a pretty chill guy; I think he just is very particular about his own work and doesn't really care about his own image. In interviews he usually comes off as a bit snobbish but if you read closer he uses a lot of self-depreciating humor.

frogbs, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 20:09 (eleven years ago) link

That game show clip has a serious lack of guitar shredding.

Moodles, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 20:10 (eleven years ago) link

<333333333333333

OH NO, SECONDS LEFT, SECONDS LEFT, AND THERE IT IS. REGRET. (imago), Tuesday, 21 May 2013 20:20 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPQwbBEr_vQ

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 20:28 (eleven years ago) link

Incredible final comment from Fripp (well, Robert Fripp), set-up around the 9-minute mark.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 20:30 (eleven years ago) link

Wow/ugh, I've never seen him in this context before:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3FUcSHeJJg

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 20:32 (eleven years ago) link

yeah fripp toured with those guys a few years ago. I know he opened with soundscapes to the massive yawns of most of the attendees. I didn't go, kind of which I had.

akm, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 20:39 (eleven years ago) link

I understand he was often booed, too. In a recent Mojo interview he was actually apologetic. He said he'd practiced hard to keep up with the shredders during the concluding jam, but figured (incorrectly) that he was free to do something more mediative during his opening set.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 May 2013 20:42 (eleven years ago) link

why does metalheads never want 2 chill

j., Wednesday, 22 May 2013 04:05 (eleven years ago) link

They're all so hyperactive. There's a dude I know who turns out to be a Berklee educated secret shredder. He seems pretty mellow, but his office walls are adorned with all these stupid 10-string guitars in ugly shades of black and neon green, with silly active pick-ups and spider web decals and crap like that. Outliers in his tastes are the Cure and Zappa, but he's the kind of guy who can listen to Yngwie un-ironically. And I can't even imagine doing it for a laugh. I know, despite being a Cure fan - or maybe specifically because of it - he hates the Smiths, but I wonder if he at least recognizes that Johnny Marr is an awesome guitarist? Or that Robert Fripp is so equally, uniquely awesome? Or that Richard Thompson is a more talented, more creative guitarist than most of his "Flight of the Bumblebee" shredder favea?

Then again, guitarists like Satriani and Vai have session/studio backgrounds. They can play anything and are confortable with lots of different music. Which means they play the shit they play on purpose and by preference.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 12:02 (eleven years ago) link

they have bad taste inherently but every once in a while do something great; like that steve vai solo in PIL's "ease" which is one of my favorite guitar solos ever

akm, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 17:03 (eleven years ago) link

I like a few Yngwie albums. When he's got a good vocalist on board, he can put out some quality metal.

誤訳侮辱, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 17:06 (eleven years ago) link

Gah, the vocalists are often what kills what little these sorts of dudes have to offer.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 17:07 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6i6Pbpc0z4

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 17:08 (eleven years ago) link

ok, Street Lethal is kind of badass, sort of like Judas Priest with additional hyperactive guitar. The Paul Gilbert solo is the low point of the song really, just an undifferentiated mass of super fast licks with no discernable phrasing or emotion.

Moodles, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 17:13 (eleven years ago) link

Nah, this song sucks for many of the reasons you point out. Is it a boilerplate Priest song ruined by the shredding? Or a shredder outing ruined by the sub-Priest vox?

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 17:21 (eleven years ago) link

I'm ok with the sub-Priest vox, but ymmv

Moodles, Wednesday, 22 May 2013 17:24 (eleven years ago) link


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