Acts whose entire album output has always been on the decline, with no exception

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Fat Boys definitely.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 17:29 (sixteen years ago) link

Somebody three years ago threw out the Black Flag name, but let's take a closer look. Could it be true that

Early EPS > Damaged > My War > Family Man > Slip It In > Loose Nut > In My Head?

I myself would say no, but--unwilling to let this die--I'm trying to imagine someone who might posit such a thing . . . .

And can't. Let's assume everyone loves the early stuff, and if that means "Jealous Again" over Damaged for the purposes of this thought experiment, then OK.

But HC diehards would hate Family Man more than Slip It In or Loose Nut or In My Head, it seems, while those with bullshit artpunk leanings like myself would dig that crazy Family Man/Process sound more than the stoopid metal vibe of the flipside of My War.

So interesting to think about, but NO.

SecondBassman, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 19:09 (sixteen years ago) link

Kid Creole & the Coconuts?
Off the Coast of Me>Fresh Fruit In Foreign Places > Tropical Gangsters > Wiseguy > Doppelganger
was never able to get into any of the subsequesnt records.

Lolpez, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 19:14 (sixteen years ago) link

Nah, I like Kid Creole's You Shoulda Told Me You Were a lot, and they were as consistent as Nick Lowe, really, who probably really belongs on this list.

Terence Trent D'Arby? Altho his second album, the one with "She Kissed Me," is kinda cool

whisperineddhurt, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 21:12 (sixteen years ago) link

Manfred Mann? That first record is so great but then they went space-doodle.

Cyndi Lauper?

whisperineddhurt, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 21:13 (sixteen years ago) link

A case could be made for Ice Cube, though some days I feel that Lethal Injection is a slight improvement on A.M.W.

Pillbox, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 21:18 (sixteen years ago) link

Whoops - substitute Death Certificate for Lethal Injection

Pillbox, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 21:27 (sixteen years ago) link

House of Love's Butterfly LP is better than first LP anyway

the pinefox, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 22:35 (sixteen years ago) link

How many times have the Pistols been mentioned?

Plenty? Sorry

Fer Ark, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 22:43 (sixteen years ago) link

Black Flag - w/o a doubt - eventhough 'My War' was my youth bible - it's served me really well.... Fuck you Greg Ginn/Dale Nixon. All your fault.

RAMONES. they never topped it (Their debut). High bar, but...

Fer Ark, Wednesday, 16 April 2008 22:52 (sixteen years ago) link

dj shadow for sure

yeah, unless you count the albums with Cut Chemist, like xhuck is doing for Johansen

energy flash gordon, Thursday, 17 April 2008 01:37 (sixteen years ago) link

How about Portishead?

Geir Hongro, Thursday, 17 April 2008 09:31 (sixteen years ago) link

They weren't that good to start with but I guess the Mission UK would fit the bill

baaderonixx, Thursday, 17 April 2008 09:37 (sixteen years ago) link

I think mentioning artists who have released only two albums is kinda pointless, because it's like 50-50 chance they're second album is either better or worse than the first.

Tuomas, Thursday, 17 April 2008 09:49 (sixteen years ago) link

Like Kula Shaker, who fell out of this category last year as that album was better than "Pigs, Peasants and Astronauts".

Geir Hongro, Thursday, 17 April 2008 09:52 (sixteen years ago) link

The Walkmen

peter james, Thursday, 17 April 2008 12:32 (sixteen years ago) link

two years pass...

Ratt?

I retract this now. (New album is really good.)

xhuxk, Thursday, 29 April 2010 15:02 (fourteen years ago) link

Hongro

Oh boy, rap! That's where I'm a mic king! (m bison), Thursday, 29 April 2010 15:03 (fourteen years ago) link

four months pass...

Allan Sherman -- at least judging from the four albums I heard that were reissued this year: My Son the Folksinger (11-'62) >>>> My Son the Celebrity (1-'63) >> My Son The Nut (8-'63) >>>>>>> For Swingin' Livers Only (11-'64). (But I've never heard his two albums that charted between those last two, namely Allan In Wonderland and Peter And The Commissar. Still seems his creativity was on a clear downhill slide since the start, though. But I basically still like the first three albums, at least enough to keep them.)

xhuxk, Sunday, 12 September 2010 00:36 (thirteen years ago) link

two posts to get to a major Clash challops.

a cankle of rads (Gukbe), Sunday, 12 September 2010 00:42 (thirteen years ago) link

Rush
Luther Vandross
Goldie
Kanye West
Pram

henry s, Sunday, 12 September 2010 02:48 (thirteen years ago) link

but 'moving frontier' is much better than 'museum of imaginary animals' and really are you saying that 'gash' is pram's high point then?

keythhtyek, Sunday, 12 September 2010 03:42 (thirteen years ago) link

buzzcocks

Lil Wayans Bros (S-), Sunday, 12 September 2010 04:32 (thirteen years ago) link

EPMD fucking mumble over Zapp. I like thier first few singles, but lost interest quick.

sbed pappawheelie for this

dayo reckoning (The Reverend), Sunday, 12 September 2010 06:02 (thirteen years ago) link

b-52s?

cosmic thing tears it up, imo

hobbes, Sunday, 12 September 2010 07:55 (thirteen years ago) link

Funplex is the best post-Ricky Wilson album too.

Doctor Madame Frances Experimento LLC (SNM), Sunday, 12 September 2010 08:37 (thirteen years ago) link

two months pass...

Nona Hendryx, as far as I can tell. (Haven't heard much beyond her first four albums, though; maybe she got her groove back later? Kinda doubt it.)

xhuxk, Wednesday, 17 November 2010 15:02 (thirteen years ago) link

ashlee simpson

fact checking cuz, Wednesday, 17 November 2010 15:52 (thirteen years ago) link

Tindersticks

ban this sick stunt (anagram), Wednesday, 17 November 2010 16:01 (thirteen years ago) link

Rush

This is so so so wrong. I can understand, even if I don't fully agree, that some might say they've been on a gentle downward slope through the 80s and 90s - but to suggest that somehow the ST debut and Caress of Steel are better than 2112 or Permanent Waves or Hemispheres is just plain silly.

"I am a fairly respected poster." (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 17 November 2010 16:19 (thirteen years ago) link

Gang of Four

― -stefan, Thursday, May 19, 2005 2:35 PM

Wow, no one refuted this? Absolutely WRONG as "Shrinkwrapped" was INFINITELY better than "Mall". I am cautiously optimistic about the forthcoming "Content" as well.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 17 November 2010 16:39 (thirteen years ago) link

metric

jumpskins, Wednesday, 17 November 2010 19:01 (thirteen years ago) link

The Avalanches

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 17 November 2010 19:12 (thirteen years ago) link

xhuckx i'm suprised you picked ratt upthread!

or do you like that first thing with the ratts climbing up the sexy ladies stocking better? (isn't that before out of the cellar)?

a strapping 40-year-old caorni rapper at a party (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 17 November 2010 19:17 (thirteen years ago) link

Yeah, that EP was before Out of the Cellar.

Metric is actually a pretty good call.

"I am a fairly respected poster." (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 17 November 2010 20:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Art of Noise is probably a good answer. (Though IMO their second album is overrated, even if the initial ZTT releases were somewhat better.)

Tuomas, Thursday, 18 November 2010 07:21 (thirteen years ago) link

By always on decline, doesn't that mean each album is less good than the previous one? In that case, about 95% of these are dead wrong. Though I think cases can be made for Jimi Hendrix.

Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 18 November 2010 16:14 (thirteen years ago) link

If there wasn't so much good stuff cranked out during the Mellon Collie era, I'd say the Smashing Pumpkins would totally fit this.

"I am a fairly respected poster." (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 18 November 2010 16:38 (thirteen years ago) link

If it hadn't been that "Honey's Dead" was better than "Automatic", the J&MC would have a slightly declining line, pretty much.

Mark G, Thursday, 18 November 2010 16:40 (thirteen years ago) link

xhuckx i'm suprised you picked ratt upthread!...or do you like that first thing with the ratts climbing up the sexy ladies stocking better? (isn't that before out of the cellar)?

Well, I actually disowned my Ratt vote later on in the thread, when their new album (which I liked more than anything they'd done in decades) came out this year. As for that first indie EP with "Walking The Dog" (on Time Coast Records I think? whatever that was), let's just say I really really wish I still owned it, and I'd absolutely trade Out Of The Cellar for a copy anyday, seeing how I've got "Round And Round" on 45. But that doesn't necessarily technically make it better, I guess. (Or maybe EPs don't count? I'd have to check the rules.)

xhuxk, Thursday, 18 November 2010 16:46 (thirteen years ago) link

I wish Martin Popoff was here so he could nominate Def Leppard

Actually, these days I'm increasingly considering nominating them myself. (Though I guess their covers album a couple years ago was better than some things they did in the '90s, so maybe not.)

xhuxk, Thursday, 18 November 2010 16:53 (thirteen years ago) link

Wu-Tang is the super obvious answer

Good news, everyone! (kelpolaris), Thursday, 18 November 2010 21:10 (thirteen years ago) link

not otm tho

dark side of the goon (The Reverend), Thursday, 18 November 2010 21:16 (thirteen years ago) link

Black Eyed Peas

Evan R, Thursday, 18 November 2010 21:23 (thirteen years ago) link

Pink Floyd, arguably. (Actually I don't think this but I figure a case could be made).

Definitely.

Telephoneface (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 18 November 2010 21:25 (thirteen years ago) link

Wu-Tang is the super obvious answer

Except that The W was better than Forever, and 8 Diagrams was better than Iron Flag.

Tuomas, Thursday, 18 November 2010 21:30 (thirteen years ago) link

lol gtfo

dark side of the goon (The Reverend), Thursday, 18 November 2010 21:32 (thirteen years ago) link

The Feelies is the only one I can think of that really works, though all four of their albums are pretty good. But Crazy Rhythms is an all-time classic and The Good Earth is great, the other two decent but kind of unremarkable, and I think Only Life is the better of those too. So there you go..

Devo nearly works (without the new album); but I do also think Freedom of Choice is better than Duty Now by a bit. Also Smooth Noodle Maps > Total Devo but that's like comparing cow turds and horse turds

Deee-lite works but who cares

Junior Boys certainly seem to be heading that way.

p.s. thinking it's Floyd is ridiculous. Do you really think that Ummagumma and Saucerful and Atom Heart Mother >> Dark Side, WYWH, Animals, and the Wall?

frogbs, Thursday, 18 November 2010 21:45 (thirteen years ago) link

Guns n Roses is the obvious answer.

Randy Moss' dog's personal chef (Bill Magill), Thursday, 18 November 2010 22:03 (thirteen years ago) link

Time For a Witness >>>>>> The Good Earth

as I've recently learned

look at it, pwn3d, made u look at my peen/vadge (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 18 November 2010 22:04 (thirteen years ago) link


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