you know Second Album Syndrome? This is one where the artist gets it right: honing skills, sure, but also using newfound confidence to unearth new ones.
― taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 29 September 2012 02:55 (eleven years ago) link
I'm still floored that "Adorn" hit #1. If he gets "Use Me" into the R&B top twenty I'll be ready to give all the credit for Miguel's A&R guys and promotion for the way they've finessed his exposure in the last eight months.
― taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, September 28, 2012 10:41 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i think this renaissance is pretty artist-driven. all the ADC stuff was very much his vision & all financed by him... ime he works with a pretty small team. "adorn" is certainly, like, he wrote a classic joint and pushed it himself initially before it really took off (his people may have suggested he write a final minute or maybe it already existed, who knows). but if he strings together multiple hits off this album it's genius shit on his part.
― instafapper (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 29 September 2012 02:56 (eleven years ago) link
that jaheim song he wrote that won a grammy is dope. is his album worth checking out (jaheim's)? i really liked some of his early songs ("fabulous" in particular is a gem)
― heiswagger (rennavate), Sunday, 30 September 2012 01:08 (eleven years ago) link
been wondering that myself. I havent checked his stuff for a long time.
― Nickelback of folk (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Sunday, 30 September 2012 02:05 (eleven years ago) link
anyone think this one is better than his first?
― la goonies (k3vin k.), Monday, 1 October 2012 01:47 (eleven years ago) link
i think you and i are the only people who have spent a lot of time than the first, so it's kind of a moot point (too soon to tell for me but i am pretty high on the new one at the moment).
― jaz a make wardance (some dude), Monday, 1 October 2012 01:49 (eleven years ago) link
a lot of time WITH the first
i like the new one a lot too but my impression of it hasn't really changed since i first listened to it - i've listened to it about 5 times and my favorites aren't really changing from listen to listen like with the first, and i'm not really discovering new things buried in the songs to love, as i STILL am with the first. i think it's a fine follow-up though, much better than some of the other follow-ups i'd been anticipating by other favorite artists of mine over the past couple years
― la goonies (k3vin k.), Monday, 1 October 2012 01:58 (eleven years ago) link
I've been busy all week and haven't had a chance to listen more than once, but I was under the impression most people think this is better than the first album? I think your perspective of the first album's reception is fairly skewed by your love of it.
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Monday, 1 October 2012 02:11 (eleven years ago) link
no i know that people slept on miguel's first album. he wasn't on pitchfork all the time back then, so it's not surprising
― la goonies (k3vin k.), Monday, 1 October 2012 02:13 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i don't think anyone really rates the first album that highly
― instafapper (J0rdan S.), Monday, 1 October 2012 02:13 (eleven years ago) link
It's not that I slept on it, it's just that I didn't enjoy it that much.
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Monday, 1 October 2012 02:14 (eleven years ago) link
― la goonies (k3vin k.), Sunday, September 30, 2012 10:13 PM (27 seconds ago) Bookmark
*puts head on chin, leans forward*
― instafapper (J0rdan S.), Monday, 1 October 2012 02:14 (eleven years ago) link
;)
― la goonies (k3vin k.), Monday, 1 October 2012 02:14 (eleven years ago) link
http://cdn.eurweb.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/michelle_obama2012-chin-on-fist-wide.jpg
― taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 October 2012 02:17 (eleven years ago) link
first album both has more good songs and higher highs, though "adorn" might be his best song. new one is very good at what it aims to be, which is a breezy, pleasant 40-minute record, but it isn't the trip the first was
― la goonies (k3vin k.), Monday, 1 October 2012 02:26 (eleven years ago) link
don't really think you're listening to it right if "breezy, pleasant" is what you're getting from it
― jaz a make wardance (some dude), Monday, 1 October 2012 02:34 (eleven years ago) link
maybe k3v downloaded a bad leak?
― barthes simpson, Monday, 1 October 2012 02:47 (eleven years ago) link
doubt it but i was talking more about the songcraft than the sonics, admittedly, which haven't grabbed me one way or another
― la goonies (k3vin k.), Monday, 1 October 2012 02:51 (eleven years ago) link
first album has ... higher highs, though "adorn" might be his best song.
this sentence contradicts itself?
i still think "sure thing" is his best song but the rest of kaleidoscope dream kills his first album, though i really might just shove "...all" after "arch & point", i'm so used to that coming next and it's probably the greatest ADC track that didn't get reused.
― lex pretend, Monday, 1 October 2012 06:00 (eleven years ago) link
well i said "might" - in any event the first one has his like 2nd through 5th best songs
― la goonies (k3vin k.), Monday, 1 October 2012 13:38 (eleven years ago) link
Sorry if this was discussed hotheads but what the he'll happened to gravity?
― Moreno, Monday, 1 October 2012 15:04 (eleven years ago) link
Hotheads = up thread. You all seem very chill
― Moreno, Monday, 1 October 2012 15:05 (eleven years ago) link
lol great typo
what happened like why isn't it on the album? i mean only 3 of the EP songs are on the album, 2 of which were radically changed, and "Gravity" was never a huge favorite.
― jaz a make wardance (some dude), Monday, 1 October 2012 15:11 (eleven years ago) link
i'm glad the album is mostly different?
― heiswagger (rennavate), Monday, 1 October 2012 15:11 (eleven years ago) link
Just seemed like it would do well as a single imo.
― Moreno, Monday, 1 October 2012 15:14 (eleven years ago) link
i've listened to it about 5 times and my favorites aren't really changing from listen to listen like with the first, and i'm not really discovering new things buried in the songs to love,
totally opposite experience of this record
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 1 October 2012 15:24 (eleven years ago) link
it looks like the Target deluxe edition contains "...All," "Gravity" and
and
::shudder::
http://www.youtube.com/v/pdiL01PRtWI&fs=1&hl=en
― jaz a make wardance (some dude), Monday, 1 October 2012 15:25 (eleven years ago) link
wow that hat is fucking terrible
― instafapper (J0rdan S.), Monday, 1 October 2012 15:26 (eleven years ago) link
yeah my copy has those two songs.
― taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 October 2012 15:27 (eleven years ago) link
hat is hilarious
― jaz a make wardance (some dude), Monday, 1 October 2012 15:28 (eleven years ago) link
the combination of that outfit and i guess wiz's height makes miguel look like a midget in that photo
― instafapper (J0rdan S.), Monday, 1 October 2012 15:28 (eleven years ago) link
ok he can't be gay because only Elton John would dress so terribly
― taking tiger mountain (up the butt) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 October 2012 15:28 (eleven years ago) link
miguel's a good dresser but that outfit is horrifying
― instafapper (J0rdan S.), Monday, 1 October 2012 15:30 (eleven years ago) link
wiz makes miguel look short like miguel makes wiz look dignified
― jaz a make wardance (some dude), Monday, 1 October 2012 15:32 (eleven years ago) link
Gravity is a huge favorite of mine; I was gonna post that that & ...All got hosed, so this Target Deluxe Edition is welcome news.
― alpha flighticles (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 1 October 2012 15:42 (eleven years ago) link
miguel is tiny tho, he's maybe 5' 7"
― instafapper (J0rdan S.), Monday, 1 October 2012 16:09 (eleven years ago) link
i'm not saying he's not usually short, i'm saying wiz is not usually dignified
― jaz a make wardance (some dude), Monday, 1 October 2012 16:11 (eleven years ago) link
"do you?" is the best song to sing along to
― heiswagger (rennavate), Monday, 1 October 2012 16:34 (eleven years ago) link
also, has anyone talked about the censored 'fuck's on "how many drinks?"? is this artistic decision, because the album has a parental advisory diclaimer, so why censor it still?
― heiswagger (rennavate), Monday, 1 October 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link
I like the little laser noises at those moments, it's probably an artistic decision.
Either that or my leaked version is ripped off from a censored stream.
― Matt DC, Monday, 1 October 2012 16:48 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i mean i'm cool with it being artistic, cause those laser noises are dope, and it's a more effective by omission kinda thing then.
― heiswagger (rennavate), Monday, 1 October 2012 16:50 (eleven years ago) link
i think my least favorite song on this is "where's the fun in forever" although it's still a good song
― heiswagger (rennavate), Monday, 1 October 2012 21:24 (eleven years ago) link
haha so far there's no consensus
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 October 2012 21:26 (eleven years ago) link
freelancer Sarah G*dfrey's interview with Miguel for the Washington Post
http://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/music/miguel-creates-his-own-randb-path-on-kaleidoscope-dream/2012/10/01/36b1b4d4-09ba-11e2-afff-d6c7f20a83bf_story.html
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 14:01 (eleven years ago) link
DO YOU LIKE HUGS?
― Roland Pemberton, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 20:41 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVn8kQQhDo4
― Nickelback of folk (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 21:04 (eleven years ago) link
Has had a girlfriend for 7 years, supposedly.
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 21:17 (eleven years ago) link
i couldn't get through much of that asinine 'interview'
― jaz a make wardance (some dude), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 21:21 (eleven years ago) link
i couldn't even start it
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 2 October 2012 21:25 (eleven years ago) link