POLL: Best Track on Eno & Cale's "Wrong Way Up"

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This is sooooo weird as I've been listening to this record on loop in my car.

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 13 October 2012 11:22 (eleven years ago) link

NTI, can you post a couple of those interviews?

the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 13 October 2012 11:37 (eleven years ago) link

In his "A year with swollen appendices" book, there's a line where he says he had just licensed "Spinning away" to be used in a British TV ad (Burtons, iirc) for £50,000. Nice.

Rob M Revisited, Saturday, 13 October 2012 12:50 (eleven years ago) link

Cale's side of the story of making Wrong Way Up is pretty grippingly written up, I recall, in What's Welsh For Zen:)

t**t, Saturday, 13 October 2012 12:55 (eleven years ago) link

NTI, can you post a couple of those interviews?

Here's one: http://music.hyperreal.org/artists/brian_eno/interviews/sos90b.html

Cale's side of the story of making Wrong Way Up is pretty grippingly written up, I recall, in What's Welsh For Zen:)

I think that's right. The other one is the Option piece. I'll look at the Cale book later today. One thing that's kind of reassuring, btw, is that despite the challenge of recording WWU, they've continued to work together a bit.

It's interesting that the two of them were so inspired by "The Soul of Carmen Miranda" -- until recently, it was never a favorite of mine and generally representative to me of Cale's kind of monotone melodic style of the period (which continues to some extent on WWU). I like the sounds in it tho -- particularly the squiggly scratchy sound that stretches into infinity.

Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 13 October 2012 15:42 (eleven years ago) link

one year passes...

Just heard Sugar Ray's cover of "Spinning Away", surprisingly faithful. Anyone have the back story on this?

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Sunday, 19 January 2014 22:34 (ten years ago) link

Yeah that always seemed odd to me. The only thing I can imagine is that whoever did the soundtrack citation was trying to match a popular act with a personal fave.

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 26 January 2014 18:57 (ten years ago) link

You walk towards the station.
I'll walk towards the bus

Bryan Fairy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 26 January 2014 19:01 (ten years ago) link

otm

LADsy (wins), Sunday, 26 January 2014 19:01 (ten years ago) link

one year passes...

I'd heard about the language-book lyrics for Cordoba - looked for the source today:

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=g8KlL80sQ-sC&q=%22according+to+his+father+he+is+very+ill%22&dq=%22according+to+his+father+he+is+very+ill%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiGkK6jv-DJAhVEbRQKHbiECeMQ6AEIHzAA

woof, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 13:42 (eight years ago) link

that's awesome

La Lechuza (La Lechera), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 13:56 (eight years ago) link

Actually more likely this one in the same series, given the dates:
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=R43FKpfjAEAC&dq=%22according%20to%20his%20father%20he%20is%20very%20ill%22&source=gbs_book_other_versions

woof, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 14:04 (eight years ago) link

gah those are my favorite types of language instruction books too -- tons of drills, sentences that are written for their sounds, super old school methodology that's pretty useful when you're at the beginning stages of learning a language

La Lechuza (La Lechera), Wednesday, 16 December 2015 14:10 (eight years ago) link

Love Spinning Away so much, but a friend sort of pooped it up a bit for me by noting the simple chord progression is pretty much "Hey Soul Sister."

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 December 2015 15:04 (eight years ago) link

four years pass...

ilxor Tom D. just pointed out that "Spinning Away" is merely a rewrite of "The Big Ship"...

but I'd like to chime in that "Spinning Away" unfortunately replaces the original's heavily distorted synths & Frippotronics with late 80s flourishes like gated drums & world music cliches.

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 16 January 2020 19:34 (four years ago) link

Spinning away is beautiful

Baby yoda laid an egg (wins), Thursday, 16 January 2020 19:40 (four years ago) link

yeah c'mon it's like top ten Eno

The Squalls Of Hate (sleeve), Thursday, 16 January 2020 19:43 (four years ago) link

but I'd like to chime in that "Spinning Away" unfortunately replaces the original's heavily distorted synths & Frippotronics with late 80s flourishes like gated drums & world music cliches.

― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli),

Your imagination unfortunately was replaced by heavily distorted farts

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 January 2020 19:44 (four years ago) link

Trying to imagine if Julien Baker* (or hell even Cale**) covered it on solo piano...

*a la her cover of "Accident Prone"
**a la his cover of "Frozen Warnings"

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 16 January 2020 19:48 (four years ago) link

I love this album. Footsteps and been there are the 2 tracks I’m not so hot on, though I enjoy them - love all the rest

Baby yoda laid an egg (wins), Thursday, 16 January 2020 19:48 (four years ago) link

Eno did a lazy lugubrious cover of “ring of fire” in the style of “the river” around this time, I love it just for giving me more of that vibe

Baby yoda laid an egg (wins), Thursday, 16 January 2020 19:52 (four years ago) link

brb gonna listen to the oh-oh-ohs from "Empty Frame" again.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 January 2020 19:56 (four years ago) link

Had I been around I might have voted for that one itp

Baby yoda laid an egg (wins), Thursday, 16 January 2020 19:58 (four years ago) link

Listened to it today! Particularly love "Cordoba".

Frozen Mug (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 January 2020 20:03 (four years ago) link

ilxor Tom D. just pointed out that "Spinning Away" is merely a rewrite of "The Big Ship"...

that's a cool observation, I think this tune fits in with those two as well:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xycTSIC0aCA

(not Eno though)

Spinning Away is absolutely classic of course (even the Sugar Ray cover is good!!) but I'm still bothered by the drum loop sounding like a 96kbps MP3

frogbs, Thursday, 16 January 2020 20:05 (four years ago) link

It's a fairly standard chord sequence, probably been used lots of time. Eno only uses straightforward chord sequences, Cale often does too.

Frozen Mug (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 January 2020 20:08 (four years ago) link

I wish I could vote on this to show Been There Done That some love

the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 16 January 2020 20:50 (four years ago) link

I'm finally home (!) and am here to tell you that:

"The Big Ship"
C - F - Am - F - C - G/B - Am - F
I | IV | vi | IV | I | V* | vi | IV *inversion

"Spinning Away"
A - E - F#m - D
I | V | vi | IV

so a slight difference, but in Tom D's defense, the reedy/overdriven DX-7 preset sounds remarkably similar in both tracks.

My big takeaways: "The Big Ship" uses the same chords as "No Woman No Cry" & "Spinning Away" uses the same chords as "Three Little Birds".

Is Eno a closet rasta?

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 18 January 2020 01:57 (four years ago) link

Hasn't he just been working with Lee Perry?

Frozen Mug (Tom D.), Saturday, 18 January 2020 02:01 (four years ago) link

two months pass...

I'm finally home (!) and am here to tell you that:

"The Big Ship"
C - F - Am - F - C - G/B - Am - F
I | IV | vi | IV | I | V* | vi | IV *inversion

"Spinning Away"
A - E - F#m - D
I | V | vi | IV

so a slight difference, but in Tom D's defense, the reedy/overdriven DX-7 preset sounds remarkably similar in both tracks.


I think you will find a lot of Eno tunes use I-IV-V-vi sequences – 8M, How Many Worlds, etc. Eno loves his English hymns.

One song that hasn’t gotten enough love here is the wry (and ribald) “In the Backroom.”

Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 4 April 2020 17:25 (four years ago) link

seven months pass...

bumping this thread for the "Spinning Away" chord progression soundalike... my wife's native ringtone:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FW6gUttBqpM

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 13 November 2020 20:02 (three years ago) link


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