Sleeps With Angels is way too high. And Freedom is way too low.
― kornrulez6969, Thursday, 21 June 2007 16:18 (sixteen years ago) link
The fact that Zuma ranked below Trans completely invalidates this poll.
― jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 21 June 2007 16:21 (sixteen years ago) link
So, basically, I'm the only person who voted for "Zuma"? Don't believe it.
― Tom D., Thursday, 21 June 2007 16:22 (sixteen years ago) link
I wasn't around when CSN(and sometimes Y) were at their peak, so apologies for the following somewhat naive question:
How much of Neil Young's popularity in the 70s can be attributed to his association with CSN? The thought never really occurred to me until I was checking out CSN(Y)'s Allmusic entry today, which says "it was the only American-based band to approach the overall societal impact of the Beatles".
Personally, I like Neil Young exponentially more than CSN(Y), so my gut feeling is that the majority of Neil Young's fans were there on account of his own talent. But was there a certain contingency of fans who cheered loudest for "Ohio" and "Helpless", contemplating to themselves at the Live Rust concerts that it would be better if CSN were up on stage too? Or was it more like "Why the hell does Neil Young ever play with them? They butchered 'Helpless'..."? Just wondering what the prevalent view was back in the day.
― Z S, Friday, 23 November 2007 20:11 (sixteen years ago) link
When CSN and sometimes Y reunited for a predictably horrible album in 1988, Neil begged off the obligatory tour, saying, "I dunno man, those guys need some serious practice."
And that Allmusic statement strikes me as comically absurd.
― Sara Sara Sara, Friday, 23 November 2007 20:18 (sixteen years ago) link
Yeah, I admit it raised my eyebrow as well, but then I go the ILM search function, and the second thing I read on the Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young C/D S/D thread is "i'm more interested in the fact that CSN(Y) (or whatever) were actually REALLY POPULAR and BIG -- as in springsteen in '85/outkast or britney spears BIG. that's such a radical sea-change in mass public musical taste that deserves some comment, no?"
― Z S, Friday, 23 November 2007 20:23 (sixteen years ago) link
On The Beach is very good, but would have voted Everybody Knows this is Nowhere, in fact i shall play it now
― Alex in Denver, Friday, 23 November 2007 20:25 (sixteen years ago) link
hi alex, how is the weather in denver? in frankfurt it has been raining most of the day. i would have voted <i>after the goldrush</i>, i think. but <i>on the beach</i> is a decent winner, too.
― alex in mainhattan, Friday, 23 November 2007 20:30 (sixteen years ago) link
i will never learn the ilm html tags...
weird
― moscow_nights, Monday, 26 November 2007 03:45 (sixteen years ago) link
it was the only American-based band to approach the overall societal impact of the Beatles
In their time their American album sales were HUGE. Their cultural cachet was such that their public greeted "Ohio" as a major statement. I'm wary of statements like AllMusic's, but the Shakey bio also makes the same suggestion.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 26 November 2007 03:48 (sixteen years ago) link
CSNY were huge because the Byrds, the Hollies, and the Buffalo Springfield had all been huge before.
― Nubbelverbrennung, Monday, 26 November 2007 11:26 (sixteen years ago) link
Dead Man = Neil's best electric work?
― Matt P, Monday, 15 December 2008 10:31 (fifteen years ago) link
look at the bill for this thinghttp://www.vancouver2010.com/more-2010-information/cultural-festivals-and-events/event-listings/hal-willner's-neil-young-project-_70660zv.html
― tylerw, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 20:04 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm assuming thats a different Chris Brown, otherwise o_O
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 20:06 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah, probably?a mix of eh, cool! and whaaaa?Sam Beam of Iron & WineChris Brown Vashti Bunyan Robert BurgerBrendan Canning Fred Cash Jason Collett Julie Doiron Kevin Drew Sam GoldbergShahzad Ismaily Eric Mingus Sun Kil Moon Jenni Muldaur Ambrosia ParsleyJustin Peroff Ben Perowsky Joan as Policewoman Elizabeth Powell Bill Priddle Lou Reed Alasdair Roberts Ron Sexsmith Teddy Thompson James Blood Ulmer Andrew Whiteman Doug Wieselman
― tylerw, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 20:06 (fourteen years ago) link
hoping for a mingus/blood ulmer/reed jam on down by the river
― tylerw, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 20:07 (fourteen years ago) link
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j//msnbc/Components/Video/071107/tdy_chrisbrown_song3_071107.vmodv4.jpg
A MAAAAAAAAAID
― da croupier, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 20:08 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah, some good names on there and some wtf ones as well. I scanned it quickly the first time and saw "Bill Priddle" as "Mark Prindle".
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 27 January 2010 20:08 (fourteen years ago) link
http://celeb.wohoo.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2007/02/chris-brown.jpgcan i get a heart of gooooold?
― tylerw, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 20:10 (fourteen years ago) link
IT'S THE WOMAN IN YOU THAT MAKES YOU WANNA PLAY THIS GAAAAAME!
TAKE IT, ULMER!
― da croupier, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 20:11 (fourteen years ago) link
haha
― tylerw, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 20:13 (fourteen years ago) link
wish they would substitute teddy thompson for richard thompson
― tylerw, Wednesday, 27 January 2010 20:17 (fourteen years ago) link
Neil Young and Bert Jansch, May 24 at DAR Constitution Hall ($83.50-$193.50)
Don't think I want to spend that much to see him on this solo tour.
― curmudgeon, Monday, 19 April 2010 16:17 (fourteen years ago) link
great bill tho
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Monday, 19 April 2010 16:20 (fourteen years ago) link
man i would love to see bert jansch
― Ndamukong HOOS (M@tt He1ges0n), Monday, 19 April 2010 16:21 (fourteen years ago) link
Neil has always been at the vanguard of steep ticket prices.
― kornrulez6969, Monday, 19 April 2010 16:24 (fourteen years ago) link
geez that is a ridiculous ticket price
― I won't vote for you unless you acknowledge my magic pony (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 19 April 2010 16:25 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8nveweVvh0
― tylerw, Monday, 19 April 2010 16:26 (fourteen years ago) link
there is a single $248 seat available at the worcester mass show
thank god I have plans that night
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Monday, 19 April 2010 16:34 (fourteen years ago) link
i didn't go see neil the last time he was in town because tix were $100 bucks ... i had just bought the archives so I had blown my neil budget for the year, really.
― tylerw, Monday, 19 April 2010 16:52 (fourteen years ago) link
I missed this poll. I realize that there's no accounting for personal taste, but I do find it unsettling that somebody counts Everybody's Rockin' as his/her favourite Neil Young album.
― clemenza, Monday, 19 April 2010 19:38 (fourteen years ago) link
The cheap seats here in Houston are $69 w/service charge. The big problem though is it's a frontgate event and they don't have outlets in town, so you have to either go to the venue (Jones Hall) or purchase online. According to the seating chart, I've got a nice balcony seat.
― Roomful of Moogs (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 19 April 2010 19:40 (fourteen years ago) link
Not that I'd have voted for it but shocked that Freedom pulled a zero on this one too, esp with Trans pulling in two votes.
― Sean Carruthers, Monday, 19 April 2010 19:49 (fourteen years ago) link
ha, didn't even look at these results ... they are a little ridiculous, but what the heck. (Only 1 vote for Zuma?)
― tylerw, Monday, 19 April 2010 19:55 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah, those too. Everybody's Rockin'-1 and Old Ways-3, and, at the other end, Zuma-1 and Freedom-0--these are all very puzzling. Everything else, even albums I dislike (Trans) or consider overrated (On the Beach), more or less makes sense.
― clemenza, Monday, 19 April 2010 19:59 (fourteen years ago) link
only one vote for harvest 'makes sense'?!
― ian, Monday, 19 April 2010 19:59 (fourteen years ago) link
I would say so, yes. I think most people who are going to take the time to vote in a Neil Young poll would choose something else as their favourite. If, on the other hand, you surveyed 100 random music fans, undoubtedly it finishes first.
― clemenza, Monday, 19 April 2010 20:01 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah, i wouldn't vote for harvest as my fave neil young album ... not sure what i'd vote.
― tylerw, Monday, 19 April 2010 20:02 (fourteen years ago) link
You'd think with an environment as committed to scientific results and objectivity as ILM that the poll results would make SOME KIND of SENSE!!
― Trip Maker, Monday, 19 April 2010 20:03 (fourteen years ago) link
Point taken, sure--but all of that aside, I still find it hard to believe that there's someone who a) cares enough about Neil Young to click on this thread and cast a vote, and b) counts Everybody's Rockin' as his greatest album. It's just funny-weird.
― clemenza, Monday, 19 April 2010 20:06 (fourteen years ago) link
Or maybe it was just meant as a joke, and all my puzzlement is the punch line.
― clemenza, Monday, 19 April 2010 20:07 (fourteen years ago) link
being someone who voted for popeye in the robert altman poll, I get it
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Monday, 19 April 2010 20:11 (fourteen years ago) link
and yeah the poll results are wacky but almost a third of all votes went to ditch trilogy releases which is:
a) about right from a macro-career perspectiveb) unsurprising for ILMc) frighteningly consistent with the results of this poll: Best of Neil Young studio records
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Monday, 19 April 2010 20:17 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6a6A6oTFdcw
― Roomful of Moogs (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 19 April 2010 20:17 (fourteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39VjfTW0Xys&feature=related
― Roomful of Moogs (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 19 April 2010 20:20 (fourteen years ago) link
Next Young wanted to release Old Ways, a country record he cut in a two-day Nashville session. He felt it was a strong, commercial work, part of a series that included After the Gold Rush and Comes A Time. Geffen felt differently. They rejected it.
"They said it scared them," says Young. "They wanted more rock and roll. Okay, fine. I'll give ya some rock and roll. I almost vindictively gave them Everybody's Rockin'." He greased back his hair, put on shades, and went out on the road with a '50s-styled band called the Shocking Pinks. "I got way into that guy," says Young. "I was that guy for months. He was out there. It was a movie to me. Nobody saw it but me, but who gives a shit."
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Monday, 19 April 2010 20:20 (fourteen years ago) link
that Wonderin' video is hilarious
― I won't vote for you unless you acknowledge my magic pony (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 19 April 2010 20:24 (fourteen years ago) link
Let me add: "Wonderin'" is fantastic (song and video). I always counted it as Everybody's Rockin''s one reason for being. Discovering, via Archives and Fillmore East, that's it's been around forever was a surprise. And now Everybody's Rockin' may have lost its one reason for being.
― clemenza, Monday, 19 April 2010 20:29 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah, "wonderin'" is a pretty perfect little tune.
― tylerw, Monday, 19 April 2010 20:30 (fourteen years ago) link
(not excusing the shitty ticket prices here, but come on son)
― Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Thursday, 16 May 2024 16:53 (four days ago) link
i've now realised where you wrote Dead & Co, I read phish. still.... point stands
― Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Thursday, 16 May 2024 16:54 (four days ago) link
Eh, my point was more the venue than the band really, the Sphere was an expensive ass thing to build and with all the hype I feel like they could have justified a higher price point. If it was any other bog standard venue, I would naturally expect Neil to cost more. But this specific event/venue did surprise me (and I understand your main point is more a dig at the relative quality of the music, which I don't disagree with, but I also think my point still stands).
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 16 May 2024 17:04 (four days ago) link
i was way up in the bleachers but the sound was reaching me all the way up there. not with the clarity of the PA, but i could immediately identify the song. it was like seeing the beatles! (who also played the forest hills stadium once, iirc.)
― Thus Sang Freud, Thursday, May 16, 2024 11:00 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
yes i could hear too! but the p.a. was cutting in and out, which was distracting
― the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Thursday, 16 May 2024 17:23 (four days ago) link
At show I was at Neil didn’t let them use video screens, but it looks like they were used at his New Orleans Jazz Fest gig .
― curmudgeon, Thursday, May 16, 2024 9:46 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
yeah i was bummed about this at the phx show, they really just way out there and you dont see any of the guitar faces or band interactions or pickup switching or expressions. i enjoyed the show but it couldve been way better with the screens on.
― I Chet the Holmgren (Spottie), Thursday, 16 May 2024 19:44 (four days ago) link
When I saw him in 2012, I was genuinely surprised that he was still using as stage decor the giant amps from the Rust-era. I knew he used them for the Ragged Glory tour preserved on Weld, but I hadn't seen any video or pictures of recent shows, just audio from a ton of bootlegs, so it was actually a pleasant surprise for me. From a certain distance it probably looks hilarious if you're not jaded by it - tiny Crazy Horse rocking out among the amps - but I can see how it's a drag if it supplants any screens that would've been helpful.
― birdistheword, Friday, 17 May 2024 00:53 (three days ago) link
I saw him in 2001 and there were no giant amps that I recall - but in 2013 he had all the giant stage props and istr scientists with clipboards and lab coats scurrying around! really appreciated the dumbness of it!
2001 had a fantastic setlist of all the songs you'd want them to play but 2013 was the better show for me - the psychedelic pill material really gave the set purpose and cohesion
― Kraal Disorientation Chamber (emsworth), Friday, 17 May 2024 01:10 (three days ago) link
So they just dropped "Everybody's Alone" on streaming as a single with a vintage black & white cover pic of the Whitten-era band with the title "Early Daze"...
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 17 May 2024 04:16 (three days ago) link
Facebook banner describes it as a "Historic Collection of Early Recordings from 1969" and it's out via Reprise on June 28th.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 17 May 2024 04:21 (three days ago) link
A bit more information here:
https://superdeluxeedition.com/news/neil-young-and-crazy-horse-early-daze/
― bored by endless ecstasy (anagram), Friday, 17 May 2024 10:02 (three days ago) link
Very excited to see them in a few days, along with my dad. Will be my first time seeing Neil, his second - the first was at Woodstock. Was thinking about that yesterday and getting really tripped out about it, wondering if I'll be lucky enough to see 2 shows by the same artist 55 years apart, the mind reels
― waste of compute (One Eye Open), Friday, 17 May 2024 12:11 (three days ago) link
This early crazy horse single sounds great, look forward to the album
Kind of a slacker indie 90s vibe tbh
― corrs unplugged, Monday, 20 May 2024 10:30 (ten hours ago) link