grime in 2004

not exactly envigorating UNTIL the motorbike bit...wtf is that about? after that even the tune seems to take off.

I wish I knew what you were talking about.

is he a motorcycle nut? are there lyrics about motorcycles in there? revving sounds in the track? halfway through it starts to cut away to a guy doing wheelies for some reason.

is he driving one of those ruff ryders motorcycles?

oh those are just great

Okay now I see it. Well, all those Eski Dance scenes are great, especially the girls in the front.

the first half is kind of funny actually.

Big up Rhythm Division and the actual bloke behind the counter!

Does anyone know anything about the upcoming "Grime" compilation from Rephlex? (!) CAT 156 LP/CD.

Luka I have "Heat in the Streets" - you know the deal.

That heinously good Lethal B riddim is called the Forward Riddim (not FWD, may I add)

I heard two tracks from the RePhlex comp on Rossi B & Luca's (no relation) show [Sunday 5pm-7pm Rinse100.3fm]. Certainly not grime. From what I remember I preferred "Mark One - Stargate" to "Plasticman - The Music", both more on the dubstep side of the tracks. I do have to admit a definite attraction to Mark One's militant beats, including his mix of P.M's Hard Graft.

Here's the replacement for the broken link of N.A.S.T.Y b2b Dynasty from 5th Jan on DejaVu92.3

re: JoB

"Grime. Sublow. Dubstep. It's Music. Different people call it different things, depending on when they discovered it. In the 80's, maybe it was House, Techno and Electro. In the 90's it was UK-G, Drum and Bass, Breaks or whatever. Now there are so many terms for it that the journalists can’t pidgeon-hole it any more. This is a good thing - it's music. Moody music. Multifunctional, multifaceted music created by Humans with Brains, Hearts, Machines & Electricity. Music that’s great for dancing to in clubs, or submerging yourself within your headphones, your car, your home, wherever. It's instrumental dance music, but it's the perfect forum for the best MC's and vocalists. We at Rephlex call it Grime to publicise to the people at large, outside of the specialist world of it's producers. The purists might debate the name, but while they do that, crews around the globe are uniting in this strong & fresh dance movement. In this age of Information Technology, people are able to easily find real quality that they actually want, without being spoon-fed compromised product. Now, it is a time of change and the soundtrack is Grime."

!!!!!!!!!! we at rephlex call it grime?!?!?! well thanks for bestowing that name upon the world guys!!!!

there is some night at the end for the album. 23rd april with markone and plasticman.

heh! that's pretty funny!

cheers lee, i will give you a ding when i get over the dirty cold i'm suffering from right now.

haha mark one and plasticman are going to be playing @ the kompakt/rephlex night in nyc too. i am sure it will be uh grimey.

hey @d@m rhythm division shipped the target cd, try them. whats up with 6 versions of that scorpion tune in a row?! havent listened to the end of it yet cos my head hurts enough as it is. hope that maxwell d tune is good, i think he is alright

what do people think of that conflict video?

thanks for the tip, ambrose

anyone got the lord of the decks DVD on soulseek?

re, ambroses post upthread...

http://pod-135.dolphin-server.co.uk/~gareth/ilx/grime1.jpg

http://pod-135.dolphin-server.co.uk/~gareth/ilx/grime2.jpg

i dont know, i mean, i still have a lot of time for rephlex, but this is kind of embarrassing, the way theyve coat tailed on this

Certainly all that blurb is embarassing. I keep expecting to see them argue that "Red Hot Car" was proto-grime, or proto-dubstep, or whatever,

Hey, has anyone heard this "Life's A Dice Game Vol 1" thing? Tracks from JME, Skepta, Lethal B, East Connection, also has "Serious Thugs" and a Skepta/Terra Danja thing that sounds suspiciously like "DTI".

Has anyone read the Eski beat article in the new Dazed & Confused? Any good?

Okay, first impressions - there is some dodgy stuff on here, but also some really excellent stuff. Two Diablo (?) productions that are very much on a DJ Premier/sped up soul cut-up thing (sorry strongo), one of which I'm certain is "Strawberry Letter 23" and is just okay, with some decent MCing from Culprit and some other people who aren't named. A terrible Littleman/Chardonnai track. Also a full version of "Serious Thugs" and one of the Skepta tracks is the aforementioned "Don't Fuck Around" which is pretty nice. Other standouts are two JME (who I'm REALLY starting to rate) tracks, one of which ("Scotland") rides some weird somnambulant melody that could be off of Ambient Works Vol 2 or something. Also Snagga ft Guyver "Nasty" which reminds me a bit of "Popadomz". And there's an R&B cut "Cold Living", the beat sounds a bit like "Something About Us"!

Also Venom's "Armshouse" is the literal and logical conclusion to J0hn Darn13ll3's theory that "all UK Garage is Madness with guns".

ugh, this dice thing...all my worst fears confirmed. grime producers ripping off kanye...WHY?!

i mean right down to the clap-boom-boom-boom-clap and squeaky soul sample

(actually i am sure some of this is pretty hot. i need to give it a better listen, on headphones maybe. i think i have some sort of weird trifean jingoistic reaction to hearing british people rocking over straight-up rap beats.)

have it (Life's A Dice Game) on vinyl and like about 4 or 5 of the cuts but it hasn't drawn me back
prefer the more UK continuum + R&B girly / ragga sounding bits
the closer it gets to U.S. hip hop production the less interested I am

bought it for "Serious Thugs" though cos the 12" of that was O.S. at the time

No, I think I agree with you both. It's a bit dodgy in many places. There are definitley one or two good tracks on there, but that's it.

No real surprises, for sure.

The only grime-becomes-hip hop tracks I've liked recently have been the J2k (dunno) and Flow Dan (Pass The Dutch) cuts on the Target tape.

i was gonna get that target mix from you but its in that pesk .m4a format.

j2k is a bit too mean to the ladies for my tastes.

oh yes, the m4a thing. I did that by accident. I'll fix it soon, so check back tomorrow.

Does that mean I am bad for liking J2K?

The Rephlex blurb is kind of silly, but am I the only person pleased to see they're engaging with this music head on, instead of getting one of their mates to record a dodgy Squarepusher-style parody of it? Not living in London, I'm welcoming any attempt to distribute this music that doesn't involve paying £7 for it.

the new winamp does the m4a thing apparently. or get dbpoweramp with an add on to convert 'em.

that life's a die game was what i was refferring to when i said i blame dj samurari, thats his thing. in the advert he does for it he specifficaly calls it uk hiphop. hes a hiphop dj that does all the wikkawikka scrathy stuff and everything. his dream is to make grime become hiphop, then he'd be like the grandmaster flush of grime

re: rephlex, yeah i mean at least their going for it, its just ironic cos, well thier not releasing any grime on the 'grime' comp. as far as i can tell. i mean, i think it was a link up between rephlex and soulja/tempa or someone!

maybe they think that 'dubstep' is a tainted word.

New Upcoming Artists & Releases
UKG PRODUCERS: PH1 & BLACK TIGER

WATCH OUT FOR NEW RELEASES FROM UP & COMING PRODUCERS

DEBUT TRACKS: PUSH IT/SPACEHOPPER/SERIOUS/GREAT!

LISTEN OUT TO CREWS SUCH AS BOYZ N DA HOOD, MERIDIAN CREW PLAYING THESE DUBS!

RELEASE DATE: THIS SATURDAY 3RD APRIL

TRACKS AVAILABLE AT STORES SUCH AS RHTYHMN DIVISION/INDEPENDANCE RECORDS/UPTOWN RECORDS ETC!

WATCH OUT FOR FUTURE RELEASES FEATURING,
MERIDIAN VOCALS!!SKEPTA REMIXES!

yeah skepta smacks it but Mr Fidget is going on an ill flex

Ha ha Sticky's "Missin You" is a total grimette rip but is pretty great nonetheless - plinky plonky loveliness!

shystie step back rmx is still terrific, i should mention that again, dunno why ecclesia arent feeling it

(o hey can anyone help me work out why bbc won't stream 4 me, it's something to do with their own launcher thing cos when it's live you have the option to go straight thru into realplayer and that works fine, my realplayer is latest version, but i cant get into the archives. thnx)

4. If the text in the status window says 'Playing' but you still can't hear anything, check your speakers are on and the volume is turned up

FUCK YOUUUU BBC

prima - keep clicking on it ('play' in the pop-up player box)
and even on the little speaker pictures on the list of DJ's at right side of the box. sometimes it takes me six or more tries to get it working (where you don't get the grey blahblah message...)
somedays I have more luck with it than others

thnx paul, thing is i dont get even get play, i see: 'now playing' but never no %loading thing, and a pause symbol. it's like it's crashed, i click on anything. how'm i gonna hear benji b now...

i wonder if anyone in the world has been collecting dizzee's 'hoe'/'go' series, it seems to be his production sketchpad muse. or just some easy pocket money

btw u kneejerks i really wanna hear these minnie ripperton beats! "i sell charlie in stepney" WHAT WHAT

hey whos seen the conflict dvd!!! im watching it now and its really good! havent got to the bit ith crazy titch vs dizzee. but its got dizzee drinking ribena on it. also sharkie major jogging upo abnd down like he needs the toilet! and shit loads of good tunes...go to independance to get yr copy before it sells out!

see what people have ben saying about demon and his high voice. just bought that 'gansta toyz; tune with him and kano, but i havent got a record player here to hear it. whats new in grime?

""The grimey boys are here to stay", NME

?!?!?!?!

"Stop calling me 'Grimey'"

http://members.tripod.com/~gjohnk/GRIMEY.JPG

Father of "Real quality people actually want." Nuff respect due. RIP!

ohshit!!!!!!!!!!!!! i just heard the best tune ever!!!!!!!!

its got this sort of 'hoe' like beat, but just this this amazing pizzicato viola sound with a bowed cello bassline. have to know what this tune is!!!?!?! its only on for a minute in the dvd, then wiley tells carnage to put something else on?!?! wtf?