http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/music/2012/10/30/axl-rose-on-gnr-music-more/1669329/
― Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 20:29 (eleven years ago) link
Supermodel girlfriend Stephanie Seymour and original Guns guitarist Slash and bassist Duff McKagan "did more damage to my ability as a writer. To those three, it was all crap. It beat me down so much. At the time of the (Use Your Illusion) tours, Slash and Duff said, 'You're an idiot, you're a loser.' I didn't write for years. I felt I was hindered for a very long time. I was also trying to figure out what I wanted to say, when it's right to be venting and when you're digging a bigger hole. Lyrics on Chinese took a long time."
I have my doubts.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link
Axl bought a zoo!
― push iatee (some dude), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 20:36 (eleven years ago) link
i don't have any doubts that the lyrics took a long time. every account of making the album was like 'we worked on the basic tracks for that song for years before we heard axl sing on it.'
― push iatee (some dude), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 20:38 (eleven years ago) link
That quote is a weird thing to say too, because he has a number of songs on the UYI albums in which he was the only credited writer, including at least 3 (Dead Horse, November Rain, Estranged) that were released as singles. xxxpost
― Poliopolice, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 20:38 (eleven years ago) link
oh, and "Yesterdays" too!
― Poliopolice, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 20:39 (eleven years ago) link
I think the discussion was more like "Hey Axl these are great lyrics but do we really need an overdub of 'Cool Ranch Dressing?'"
― Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah I have a feeling it's more that Axl has a weird way of interpreting feedback/criticism of any kind. Or conversations in general. Dude is hella paranoid in that regard, it seems.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 20:43 (eleven years ago) link
Like you see versions of conversations repeated by different band members and Axl's always the one interpreting it as 'they all said I sucked so I fired them' and the parties are like 'we just told axl he should keep working on the lyrics, what he had was a really good start'
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 20:44 (eleven years ago) link
poor axl!http://imgur.com/Sjycm.jpg
― Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 20:44 (eleven years ago) link
HAHA
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 20:45 (eleven years ago) link
from the way Slash's book told it, it sounded like Axl kinda holed up and did most of the UYI vocals away from the rest of the band and they didn't really hear much until the album was done and mixed. so if they were insulting him on the following tour it was probably because he was delaying every show for hours.
― push iatee (some dude), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 20:51 (eleven years ago) link
Maybe if Axl had just spent a little longer on the "Chinese Democracy" lyrics it would have been a huge smash.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 20:52 (eleven years ago) link
Because it was the lyrics that held it back.
Heard Axl recorded the vocals one syllable at a time.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 20:53 (eleven years ago) link
I;n sure Axl thinks they rushed Chinese Democracy out and it's not really finished
― Matt Armstrong, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 20:53 (eleven years ago) link
still waiting for Izzy's memoir.
― Poliopolice, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 20:54 (eleven years ago) link
He actually spent a lot of time recording one syllable per private press LP, then had DJ Shadow sample it. Then in the end it wasn't what he wanted, so he just used ProTools.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 20:54 (eleven years ago) link
Schedule was so behind that the "Chinese Democracy" released were just the demos. You should have heard what Axl wanted it to sound like, had the label just shown a little ... patience.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 20:55 (eleven years ago) link
yeah can we please have an Izzy bio. Pleeeeease.
I ordered Ju Ju Hounds album, should be showing up tonight :D It's only available as an import, apparently. Not v expensive. I guess it went OOP in the US?
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 20:58 (eleven years ago) link
I saw a review on Amazon calling that album the 90s "Exile on Mainstreet"
― Poliopolice, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 21:02 (eleven years ago) link
I listened to it for the first time the other day and I was shocked by how good it is (upthread I think?). I'd heard it was good, and it has a lot of good/glowing reviews but I was still kinda skeptical. But yeah, it's the real deal. Verrrrrrrrry stones. ie my wheelhouse, lol
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 21:09 (eleven years ago) link
"Shuffle It All" got a lil MTV rotation, i asked for (and received) the CD for Christmas 1992.
― push iatee (some dude), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 21:10 (eleven years ago) link
Wow, just came across this interesting audio-- Izzy's isolated track from "Welcome to the Jungle"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUSFOxhxtLI&feature=related
― Poliopolice, Thursday, 1 November 2012 03:50 (eleven years ago) link
Izzy album, the first one, iirc, is no better or worse than the first couple of Black Crowes albums.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 1 November 2012 14:23 (eleven years ago) link
What I love about the guitars on "Appetite" is that they are so, so far from the virtuoso precision of the day. They're sloppy but awesome.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 1 November 2012 14:25 (eleven years ago) link
don't know the albums but BC were a pretty killer singles act in that run
― some dude, Thursday, 1 November 2012 14:25 (eleven years ago) link
They sort of approach as Izzy, actually. Stones-y riffs, vibe over precision, etc.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 1 November 2012 14:28 (eleven years ago) link
Same sort, that is.
The first couple of Black Crowes records are good. No problem with that comparison, though there's more early Aerosmith sound in the Ju Ju Hounds.
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 1 November 2012 14:29 (eleven years ago) link
Stones/solo Keef by way of Black Crowes, yeah I'll buy that.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 1 November 2012 16:00 (eleven years ago) link
So... I have a lingering question from my youth... When Axl enjoins us to feel his serpentine, is he like talking about his dick and stuff
― Poliopolice, Thursday, 1 November 2012 16:55 (eleven years ago) link
didn't you read the interview, he has a zoo.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 1 November 2012 16:56 (eleven years ago) link
hm... so the jungle is literal. huh.
― Poliopolice, Thursday, 1 November 2012 16:58 (eleven years ago) link
exactly.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 1 November 2012 16:58 (eleven years ago) link
I write him a note every so often reminding him that serpentine is an adjective and that verbs traditionally want a noun, so probably "serpent" is the better call if he ever gets around to a rewrite, or perhaps "serpentine penis" if he wants to draw out the line a little
― Inconceivable (to the entire world) (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Thursday, 1 November 2012 18:27 (eleven years ago) link
those 'motivational poster' memes that use adjectives and nouns interchangeably are just further proof that axl was a prophet
― some dude, Thursday, 1 November 2012 18:28 (eleven years ago) link
http://thumbs4.ebaystatic.com/d/l225/m/mBfIQBzimbjXlnhBp6RwvlQ.jpg
Now a race of snake people in LEGO Ninjago.
― how's life, Thursday, 1 November 2012 18:29 (eleven years ago) link
serpentine: a mineral or rock consisting essentially of a hydrous magnesium silicate usually having a dull green color and often a mottled appearance
― Poliopolice, Thursday, 1 November 2012 18:33 (eleven years ago) link
serpentine: a mineral or rock consisting essentially of a hydrous magnesium silicate usually having a dull green color and often a mottled appearance, usu. found in the jungle
― trebek sajak iii (cwkiii), Thursday, 1 November 2012 18:35 (eleven years ago) link
― how's life, Thursday, 1 November 2012 18:38 (eleven years ago) link
Appetite for Destruction was the first album I ever bought. When I was a kid, I thought "You're Crazy" was about someone endearingly wild and free-spirited. I now realize that I was probably wrong.
― Poliopolice, Friday, 2 November 2012 22:18 (eleven years ago) link
lol well axl is endearingly wild and free-spirited
― some dude, Friday, 2 November 2012 22:20 (eleven years ago) link
Seems appropriate: Axl suspended above the audience playing grand piano, equally isolated from band and audience:
http://instagram.com/p/RlgYAuNDua/
― pretty even gender split (Eazy), Monday, 5 November 2012 18:50 (eleven years ago) link
Izzy joins GnR on stage in Vegas: http://www.spin.com/articles/guns-n-roses-end-las-vegas-residency-izzy-stradlin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quHICrZTzrk
― Elvis Telecom, Monday, 26 November 2012 19:49 (eleven years ago) link
Vegas would seem like a perfect place for Axl, in a compound with 20-ft-high walls next to Penn's.
― Artie Bucco Drummer Type (Eazy), Monday, 26 November 2012 20:04 (eleven years ago) link
Good old Izzy.
Love Axl wandering around in the distant background and then trotting back to the front whenever there's a chorus. It's like he's doing a tribute to the Mah Na Mah Na sketch from the Muppets.
― wump, Monday, 26 November 2012 20:24 (eleven years ago) link
that's...just how "14 Years" goes though?
― The Doc Morbama (some dude), Monday, 26 November 2012 20:29 (eleven years ago) link
axl sounds pretty good in that clip with izzy!
― U.S. State Department, Office of Rare Psych (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 26 November 2012 21:56 (eleven years ago) link
like izzy's threads too, he looks slick
― U.S. State Department, Office of Rare Psych (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 26 November 2012 21:57 (eleven years ago) link