CHRIS BROWN

yes, how odd that aero, when making the point that people often argue that white people get a pass on this type of shit, would list a bunch of white guys

Liz Taylor.

<3

that was all in heavy quotation marks of concern dan, just don't know the emoticon for that
i suppose i do know the punctuation
but i just woke up so

He was posting Sunday late afternoon here, which means late night in Germany, where he was. I like to picture a 300-pound bodyguard stepping on CB's iPhone on Rob Light's orders.

This whole story is just so played-out/tiresome/frustratingly unchangeable... I feel the same scorn for chris brown & sadness/compassion for rihanna that any sane person does, but nothing provokes my ire like hearing one of his songs on the radio, or learning that an artist I like (lookin at you, Busta Rhymes) has agreed to collaborate with the scumbag. I get that there are market forces at work here, and all that breezy money is hard to pass up 'in this economy', but I still wish more people within the industry (note to twitter comedians: THIS DOESN'T MEAN YOU) were willing to take a principled stand. In the meantime, I will continue to imagine that chris brown is rotting in prison somewhere, and to try to put as much distance as possible between his music and my ears.

it's totally true and awful that plenty of respected famous white men have had the kind of free pass for domestic violence that chris brown hasn't had, and whether that's due to their era or their race or both, it's a reason to call them out louder and harder as well, not to go easy on CB

yeah Bill Murray. Which as it turns out is internet-era stuff that did not get a whole lotta play media-wise, and that's pretty ill. Chris Brown was arrested, which makes a good deal of difference I think, but it is kinda icky that a star as big as Bill Murray can be accused of threatening to kill his wife and nobody really hears about it.

― too many encores (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, November 26, 2012 9:45 AM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i think that for most ppl 'accused' is different than 'obviously did it with photographic evidence'

not that im inclined to disbelieve or anything, but the pictures make the rihanna situation that much more visceral

In June 1987, Madonna went to the Cedars Sinai hospital for an X-ray after Penn apparently hit her across the head with a baseball bat. At the time, they had been having a heart-to-heart talk about reconciling.
Madonna did not make an official complaint because Penn was about to serve a short jail term for attacking a film extra. He served 33 days of a 60-day sentence in the Los Angeles County jail (23 hours a day in solitary) for violating the probation he'd been given for punching a fan.
He was released into his wife's arms, only for her to throw him out of a taxi a few hours later after yet another set-to.
Their violent arguments were exhausting for everyone, but Madonna hesitated to admit that the marriage had failed. Though she saw lawyers about getting a divorce, she hung on for a full year to see if it could be saved.
It was a decision she would come to regret. In the late afternoon of December 28, 1989, Penn scaled the wall surrounding the Malibu house and found Madonna alone in the master bedroom.
According to a report filed by Madonna with the Malibu sheriff's office, the two began to quarrel. Penn told her he owned her 'lock, stock and barrel'.
When she told him she was leaving the house, he tried to bind her hands with an electric lamp and cord. Screaming and afraid, Madonna fled from the bedroom. What followed was a nine-hour ordeal which left her deeply shaken.
Penn chased her into the living room, caught her and bound her to a chair with heavy twine. Then he threatened to cut off her hair.
According to the police report, Penn was 'drinking liquor straight from the bottle' and the abuse went on for several hours, during which time he smacked and roughed up his victim.
He went out to buy more alcohol, leaving Madonna bound and gagged. Some hours later, he returned and continued his attacks.
Madonna said that he untied her after she agreed to perform a degrading sex act on him. She then fled the house and ran to her car.
Penn ran after her and was banging on the windows of her Thunderbird while she spoke to police on her mobile phone. Fifteen minutes later, she staggered into the sheriff's office.
Lieut Bill McSweeny said: 'I hardly recognised her as Madonna. She was weeping, her lip was bleeding and she had obviously been struck.'
Penn was taken away in handcuffs and charged with inflicting 'corporal injury and traumatic conditions' on her, as well as committing 'battery'.
A week later, Madonna called her lawyers and told them to file divorce papers. Yet she also told Deputy District Attorney Lauren Weiss she wished to withdraw the assault charges against her husband.
The problem was not the publicity - the scandal was in all the papers. It seems she just couldn't bear to see Penn thrown into jail. She still believed that he was the love of her life, and she tortured herself wondering to what extent she was to blame for the abuse.

xxp lex otm

Saying "chris brown would've gotten away with it if he were white!" is stupid, the whole point is that HE DID GET AWAY WITH IT. smh

i think there's truth to the demonization of chris brown because of his race, but there are def other factors (photos, social media etc) that have played into it

wtf @ that sean penn thing tho that's fucking insane

back to what aero said, i totally feel that. i guess i'm mostly just frustrated personally by the whole thing because i do think it's healthy for people to express their anger at chris brown directly and like you said in a safe environment but i still can't shake the increasing toxicity of the situation and whatever the public's continued role in it is

I know Madonna was beaten (c/o "Til Death Do Us Part") but wau @ those details

uhhh what, the details of that Sean Penn story are all news to me. Fuck all this

ditto and ditto

Jesus fucking Christ Sean Penn forcing Madonna to blow him before he'll let her leave the house. Kill yourself Sean Penn

XPpost: ' i have suspicions that for some people it's pretty self-serving (favstar bot congratulates you on your 250 star tweet etc)'

To me, that sounds like absolute craziness...though I did have a splitsecond plan to start an account that somehow niggled CB to the point that he threatened to kill me over Twitter and got arrested or something. Alas my chance has gone.

I was reading a little about the shit phil spector did to ronnie over the weekend, pretty fucking evil man

can we take a moment to bask in the unintentional comedy inherent in niggling Chris Brown

To me, that sounds like absolute craziness

obv i don't know of anyone's direct intentions so maybe it's specious on my part but at the very least there are comedians for whom zinging celebrities on twitter is one of the main ways of boosting their personal brand. one major example of this is rob delaney and another just so happens to be jenny johnson, who links to her own favstar account in her twitter profile which shows a number of tweets directed at kim kardashian (and chris brown!) that all have multiple thousands of retweets and favorites. now, i'm sure jenny johnson's anger towards chris brown is very real but it no doubt helps her career for her to play this role. (for instance, she can pitch articles to grantland http://www.grantland.com/blog/hollywood-prospectus/post/_/id/39222/an-open-letter-to-kim-kardashian-and-chris-brown)

sidebar but jenny johnson's hounding of kim kardashian based solely because she had the gall to make a sex tape is pretty gross!

while im not really on board w/ j0's overall argument here i think he does raise an interesting point re: the self-serving righteousness industry that is brought up in an interesting way here (nb i haven't thought through my own feelings on it yet but it was interesting reading)

http://willystaley.tumblr.com/post/36574794140/only-the-internet-could-compel-me-to-feel-sorta-bad-for

Cheers for the link Jordan, realized I was being a bit flippant there.

'self-serving righteousness industry' is kind of a good descriptor of ilx tbrr

you take that back, my righteousness serves everybody

the soothing balm it provides me is an unintended side-effect

'self-serving righteousness industry' is kind of a good descriptor of ilx tbrr

― 乒乓, Monday, November 26, 2012 12:59 PM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

wait im supposed to be paid for this??

sidebar but jenny johnson's hounding of kim kardashian based solely because she had the gall to make a sex tape is pretty gross!

― J0rdan S., Monday, November 26, 2012 1:55 PM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

no she is completely above reproach because chris brown

https://twitter.com/JennyJohnsonHi5/status/272150337773793281

another "what in the FUCK at that Madonna / Penn story" over here

everyone in the world is an asshole, let's move on

goon squad going full tucker carlson on jenny johnson - you'll find something guys! show her who's boss!

come on now

forks gets it

tbrr she could be tweeting the word "nigger" 24/7 and I would still say that she is 100% correct in the case of Chris Brown

Whiney you could find out that she's in the KKK and it wouldn't change the fact that you staked your claim on the racism of correcting someone's spelling

wonder if anyone can find whiney going ott on twitter attacking any female or black artists for something as innocuous as releasing an album in a genre he doesn't like.

generally speaking i'm actually cool with being compared to tucker carlson if it means i'm not defending someone who has a "pro account" on favstar.fm

I heard jenny johnson was actually born in kenya - has anyone seen her birth certificate???

why do you always immediately jump to getting personal with me, balls?

a question asked by many a man

well, it was a step up from posting "Why are you always on my dick, balls?" hahaha

misogynist, buffoon, webzine editor, troll, someone who's given up all semblance of being a contributing member of humanity to be a professional 'internet personality' (and in yr off hours as well), flagbearer for dead genres and renowned domestic abusers - take yr pick!

also noting you have around 8 twitter profiles devoted to letting the girl from cults know she's nothing more than a "dumb bitch" in yr eyes hardly seems personal, sure there's more to you than that right

congrats on your 100-star tweet

https://twitter.com/robdelaney/status/273134866596495361

thank you, anonymous internet hardman, but I think I've pretty much said "Fuck Chris Brown" like 300 times in this thread and many others.

and i've never tweeted the words "dumb bitch" to anyone?

plus, yknow on a more personal tip, once upon a time there were actually fun hip-hop threads on ilx whereas now there's circle jerks and pun sessions between the usual gang of wannabe freelance tucker carlsons

whiney you complaining about "anonymous internet hardman" is a bit much don't you think, this shit's basically on yr business cards (or at least the bio section for two of yr twitter profiles).

I had no idea rob delaney is balls

also noting you have around 8 twitter profiles devoted to letting the girl from cults know she's nothing more than a "dumb bitch" in yr eyes hardly seems personal, sure there's more to you than that right

I literally have no idea what this refers to and you're probably thinking of someone else?