Taking Sides Pixies vs. Nirvana

whereas i was 14 in 1992, and therefore nirvana are way too bound up in pimply adolescent frustration/longing/confusion and have accumlated too much baggage ala a snowball rolling down a hill (even though really they're just as "blank" as the pixies) to be able to "enjoy" now.

That's `cos he WAS always constipated.

I don't think Kurt was that ace a singer, though. He's certainly not much better than Kim Deal.

Why is it always Pixies vs. Nirvana with no mention of the Meat Puppets?

re: singing voice.
i pick black because he had a shit singing voice.
he had a shit singing voice and he did his best with what he had, - his way of kind of talking + his screaming etc. was brilliant.
he gave f'ing 110% yeah¡

i'm glad black (as far as i know) didn't get into heroin, i'd hate to hear him sound constipated + fucked up like kurt.

+ kim,
kim just had a nice voice. nothing special.

Actually, I just realized the ultra-cool answer to this is "neither."

Ick. Whatever reservations I have about Nirvana, they were a thousand times better than the directionless, testicularly-challenged jumble of tune-free sounds that was Pavement.

I thought kurt had ripped off the chorus from u-mass but I never bothered to check alb release dates. quite a coincidence.

Also excepting the ones on Unplugged Nivana did awful renditions of a lot of great songs. It is funny how much I like so many of the bands Kurt would name drop before he shot himself in the head much better than I like Nirvana. All thats left is some lingering nostalgia I have for the tape of Nevermind I used to like.

-- Alex in NYC (vassife...), January 5th, 2004.

Ha! I love this. I also love Pavement, but this is very funny. And it wouldn't work without the "whatever reservations I have about Nirvana," clause. Very nice.

Would people please stop talking about the whole teen-angst Nirvana thing. I am so sick of hearing about this. I'm so sick of looking at video footage of Kurt Cobain slumped over his guitar at some MTV unplugged thing. I wish he was still alive, so that he could get over himself. I wish his fans would please drop the Kurt Cobain as deity thing. blah blu baa!!!!

Anyways, yeah so the Pixies get my vote by a wide margin.

Is anyone trying to keep count?

As in: "lacking tunes", something they were guilty of.

Pavement sucked. There, I said it.

Please don't call the Pixies "Goth", Anthony. Just please don't do it.

Eh?? I just don't get it. Is it because of the quiet verse/loud chorus thing? But everybody does that! That's been going on since the sixties! Ever heard "What Is and What Should Never Be" by Led Zeppelin? Or "I Had Too Much to Dream Last Night" by the Electric Prunes?

Admittedly this isn't so much in evidence on the later albums but on Bleach it's pretty much undeniable.

Steve Jones / Sex Pistols had a fair bit of influence on the guitar sound on Nevermind too I reckon.

The only good thing about the Joke supporting the Pixies is that ideally it turned a few spend-ready Pixies fans onto a superior band. Beyond that, the Pixies aren't fit to felch the cow-dung from between the treads of Killing Joke's collective Doc Martens.

Not trying to take things off topic or anything, but I did take issue with Alex's assertion that Pavement "sucked". I'm hardly impartial in that particular debate, being a pretty big fan of that band, but it did seem a little harsh and somewhat undeserved. It's fine to not like them, most people I know don't like Pavement, but I think you'd have a pretty hard time convincing most critics as well as music fans that they sucked.