Bon Jovi: C/D

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Mercifully, his acting career seems to have fizzled out.

not true, he's the new love interest on 'ally mcbeal' ...

maura, Tuesday, 12 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

And Luptune: Poison? Great White?

sundar subramanian, Tuesday, 12 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Ned, your posts seem to be growing increasingly hostile and violent these days. Is something wrong?

SILENCE, FOOL. ;-)

No, things are fine, thanks for asking. But music that fills me with hate will always provoke open loathing. ;-)

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 12 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I am actually reminded now, though, of an interview Mr. Jon did in 1992 in MM where he claimed that Nirvana/Soundgarden/Mudhoney/Pearl Jam et al were obviously 'influenced' by him. Having concluded that his head was severed before being implanted deep between his leathery buttcheeks, I will agree that further taunting of him is a bit like beating up a baby.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 12 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Obviously, Poison are the most important band of the 1980's.

jel, Tuesday, 12 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Jel, you hurt me deeply in my heart.

Dan Perry, Tuesday, 12 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

"Talk Dirty to Me" is the only worthwhile song I've heard from either Poison or Great White. Better than Bon Jovi my ass. Even New Jersey smokes Open Up and Say . . . Ahhh and Twice Shy.

sundar subramanian, Wednesday, 13 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Better than Bon Jovi my ass.

Nah, gotta disagree. Poison by a country mile here. "Don't want NOTHIN' but a GOOD TIME!"

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 13 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

I think you'll find the line is "don't NEED nothin but a good time" implying that they already HAVE a good time and therefore want for nothing.

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 13 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Why, even better for them, then. :-)

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 13 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Sundar is correct. Poison is false metal most pernicious. If I'm going to get the NY Dolls, then I want Thunders & Johansen, thanks. Bon Jovi may suck (though they know their way around a pop melody pretty well: "Wanted" would make a GREAT song for whoever it is that does that "I do/wonder if you feel the same way I do" R&B song that was on the radio about a month ago), but they're not false metal, because they have no metal pretentions.

That said, both bands must be fed to sea serpents at the earliest available opportunity.

John Darnielle, Wednesday, 13 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

My favorite Poison story:

A goofy guy no one really liked in my high school was horning in on a discussion about hot women in the music industry. His contribution was Rikki Rocket. After our giggles subsided, we informed him that his beloved Ricki was a man. His response: "Really? Are you sure? Damn. Still, he makes a really hot chick."

From this point on, I couldn't help but look at Poison as That Awful Band With The Hot Shemale Drummer.

Dan Perry, Wednesday, 13 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Dr ess Rikki Rockett

jel, Wednesday, 13 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

they have no metal pretentions

Did Poison, though? All time, hands down, greatest quote ever: Rikki Rockett on his band's work: "We don't make art. We make hamburgers." GENIUS.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 13 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

And PRESCIENT.

Dan Perry, Wednesday, 13 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

Oh yes.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 13 February 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

three years pass...
It's interesting how Bon Jovi are selling their tickets know in Oct. for their UK June '06 tour. I heard some tickets were on sale for £75; at that price they can bugger off! They are not the band they used to be in the 80s and early 90s. They have "sold out" and "poppified" themselves just to make more money; just like when Cher changed to dance music and brought out "believe", she "sold out" to sell more records!

Gareth, Thursday, 6 October 2005 01:17 (eighteen years ago) link

Phoo, Bon Jovi. Bon Jovi man, Bon, Jovi. Classic or dud. Meh that's tough. If they're not the epitomy of dudness in rock, what is ? Classic pop you say ? Now that's almost debatable.

blunt (blunt), Thursday, 6 October 2005 01:59 (eighteen years ago) link

seven years pass...

From the Daily Mirror:

Bon Jovi are offering fans a lot more satisfaction than the Rolling Stones - selling tickets for their gigs from just £12.50. The Livin' On A Prayer rockers have stepped in with their cut-price offer after the Stones announced it would cost from £95 up to £375 to see them on their 50th anniversary tour. But touts are flogging the tickets for thousands. Rob Hallett, Bon Jovi's UK tour promoter from AEG Live, said the band felt that rock fans were being priced out of the market and were determined to act. "I was delighted when they came to me insisting on ticket prices for the Because We Can tour next year that enabled all to attend," Mr. Hallett said. A Bon Jovi source added: "We are in the middle of a recession and that's why the band think £12.50 is perfect."

The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Monday, 29 October 2012 17:12 (eleven years ago) link

ten months pass...

Sambora’s substitute is Canadian Philip Xenidis, also known as Phil X, who filled in for Sambora several times before when he was unavailable. According to sources, Xenidis comes a lot cheaper than Sambora. He is reportedly getting paid a substantially smaller sum of $10,000 per month.

So the guitarist in Bon Jovi, scab or no, is making $120,000 a year? That's pretty pitiful.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 12 September 2013 20:24 (ten years ago) link

I mean, obviously he's not getting the presumably massive guarantee, the cut of merch sales, etc. that full members of the band get, but where does that $120,000 fall on the scale as far as what touring session players at that level normally get?

punt cased (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 12 September 2013 20:28 (ten years ago) link

two years pass...

Dud, and RIP

Mr. Snroombes (mattresslessness), Thursday, 14 January 2016 23:41 (eight years ago) link

OK lol

EveningStar (Sund4r), Thursday, 14 January 2016 23:43 (eight years ago) link

Uh oh, these things always come in threes.

how's life, Friday, 15 January 2016 11:19 (eight years ago) link

two weeks pass...

has he had like an underrecognized influence on 00s-10s country or did he just steal shamelessly from some 70s/80s sound, cuz i'm listening to the new chris stapleton and like 25%-33% of the time i feel like i'm almost hearing 'wanted dead or alive' or 'blaze of glory'

j., Saturday, 30 January 2016 04:22 (eight years ago) link

They had a country #1 in the mid-00s.

Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Saturday, 30 January 2016 15:44 (eight years ago) link

six months pass...

New album coming soon, apparently.
First one without Richie Sambora, apparently.

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Wednesday, 10 August 2016 14:23 (seven years ago) link

For some reason I've found it hard to avoid this news today, and it's like "christ, this is going to suck", not to mention I'm surprised that Bon Jovi are still, well, making music in 2016.

the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Wednesday, 10 August 2016 14:24 (seven years ago) link

the last one didn't have sambora either

who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Wednesday, 10 August 2016 15:32 (seven years ago) link

as a listener i INFINITELY prefer gnr (or indeed limp bizkit), but then i h8 ballads (ie i guess i am not of the jel persuasion on this thread)

― mark s, Sunday, 10 February 2002 01:00 (14 years ago)

Finally something we agree on :)

Cosmic Slop, Wednesday, 10 August 2016 17:30 (seven years ago) link

well what's jon going to do, work in a body shop?

maura, Thursday, 11 August 2016 13:02 (seven years ago) link

not to mention all the other people in bon jovi inc.

maura, Thursday, 11 August 2016 13:02 (seven years ago) link

three years pass...

Marvelous songwriter imo.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 27 August 2019 02:27 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNsgOhIcqNQ

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 02:38 (four years ago) link

https://www.instagram.com/p/B0sD9kuHi5g/

S-, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 02:43 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODLS8IAYs6g

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 27 August 2019 02:54 (four years ago) link

my friends and i were huge into these guys in fifth grade, we had never seen anything like them, such hair, such passion

j., Tuesday, 27 August 2019 02:59 (four years ago) link

two years pass...

The vocal here is shockingly bad. Unless it's something exceptional due to an issue with a monitor or illness (comments suggest otherwise), dude definitely needs to take a break.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcsRkmomFTI

And liberty she pirouette (Sund4r), Monday, 18 April 2022 18:56 (two years ago) link

I actually saw them in 2010 when my sister wanted to go and while his voice was definitely not what it used to be, he was in tune, sustained notes well, and adjusted the range and keys of songs to fit his aging voice. This is something else.

And liberty she pirouette (Sund4r), Monday, 18 April 2022 19:00 (two years ago) link

If it's just that his vocal range has narrowed, he wouldn't sound so bad if he didn't slur the words.

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 18 April 2022 19:58 (two years ago) link

Total dud. I've always despised these guys. The worst of several worlds.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 18 April 2022 19:59 (two years ago) link

Then you may get some enjoyment from that video!

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 18 April 2022 20:00 (two years ago) link

"Stevie Ray Vaughan is dead, and we can't get Jon Bon Jovi on a helicopter."

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 18 April 2022 20:05 (two years ago) link

Nothing else this guy does is more important to him than money, I think he would tour until he is 90 if he can.

Master of Treacle, Monday, 18 April 2022 20:33 (two years ago) link

Worst living musician.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 18 April 2022 20:40 (two years ago) link

I can't imagine the money will keep flowing if he doesn't do something to fix whatever's going on there. xp

And liberty she pirouette (Sund4r), Monday, 18 April 2022 21:14 (two years ago) link

As long as thousands upon thousands of late Gen-Xers are still alive to drunkenly shout along with "Living On A Prayer" this dude will still be packing 'em in stadiums.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 18 April 2022 21:23 (two years ago) link

I was never remotely a fan, but jeez, singing like that to people who likely paid three figures for a ticket is flat-out insulting. I don’t know if it’s physical — some form of vocal cord strain? — but as with Phil Collins’s recent haplessness, I keep thinking of Daltrey: starting around 1973, his life has revolved around keeping his voice in shape. No, he doesn’t sound like he did in the ‘70s, but his range is largely intact, and he’s got more control and power than the much-younger Bon Jovi and the somewhat-younger Collins combined. Some musicians come to a point in their careers where they realize they can’t do this forever, and they better do what they can to sustain what abilities they have. It’s baffling that Jon either didn’t give a shit in the past or doesn’t give a shit now.

Also, Alfred otm.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 18 April 2022 21:30 (two years ago) link

The saddest one I ever saw was Lou Gramm, way back in 1999.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 12 July 2022 21:00 (one year ago) link

Stevie Nicks is another one whose voice is nowhere near as supple as it once was, though it's so distinctive it doesn't matter. Peter Gabriel and Sting both sounded pretty good the last I saw them. McCartney is finally, finally starting to fade a little. Mick Jagger, sounding OK! I once saw Crosby Stills and Nash in the very early '90s, iirc, and I remember them sounding pretty bad. A lot of these acts inevitably fade, but many of them are smart/rich enough to get the voice training they need to carry on.

I'm a little surprised AC/DC didn't tour this summer. Maybe they have a farewell tour planned, assuming any of them are up for it? It's telling that Brian, Cliff and Phil came off the sidelines for the last album. Is that the first AC/DC album they've never toured behind?

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 21:05 (one year ago) link

I think it is, but it came out in late 2020, and no one was touring (or even planning tours) then. If Phil's in the lineup, I'll go see them.

McCartney is apparently letting backing vocalists do some of the heavier lifting. And Jagger does sound pretty good, but then, live Jagger and studio Jagger were always two very different things. For one, live Jagger didn't always (or often) attempt the higher notes, and there are some songs -- "Rip This Joint" springs to mind -- that they played live in a lower key when the songs were new.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 12 July 2022 21:15 (one year ago) link

keeper of the flame here: maybe start a new thread about throat surgeries if you are all determined to talk about anyone ~but~ bon jovi lol

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 12 July 2022 21:49 (one year ago) link

If you can't talk about bad singing in the Bon Jovi thread ...

;)

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 12 July 2022 22:20 (one year ago) link

>:(

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 12 July 2022 22:25 (one year ago) link

"Stevie Ray Vaughan is dead, and we can't get Jon Bon Jovi on a helicopter."

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 12 July 2022 23:22 (one year ago) link

your hate only makes me stronger

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 13 July 2022 00:06 (one year ago) link

Did I mention that at the early peak of the pandemic, somewhere around April 2020, when we were more or less sticking around home, I spent one Saturday morning on the front steps with one of my kids blasting "Bad Medicine"? That and "Disco Frog," from the Muppets disco record. Was it for the people out for a sad masked walk? Was it for the joggers or dog walkers? No, it was 100% for me.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 00:17 (one year ago) link

lol

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 13 July 2022 01:15 (one year ago) link

Keep: Keep the Faith (song not album), which made my mum a fan for a while.

Though the idea that it stunted their US career, much like Freedom! '90 ostensibly did for GM, suggests that going all Happy Mondays was unwelcome stateside for huge selling late 80s acts (we have to therefore conclude Mysterious Ways is more... Soup Dragons mayb)

you can see me from westbury white horse, Wednesday, 13 July 2022 08:28 (one year ago) link


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