Finally Rich - Chief Keef

or maybe not stoked to be rapping as much as making rap songs, if that makes any sense at all...

I understand what you're saying. Keef is obviously engaged, and enjoying what he does—the record would be miserable if he didn't. But I don't sense the same "I'm loving every fucking minute of this" release from him that I do from Flocka. He takes a much more austere posture.

he's gonna be around for a bit

― salute me or crut me (J0rdan S.), Friday, December 14, 2012 1:23 PM (57 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

bottling this gem and releasing it back into the wild in december 2013 to see how it smells then

Lol

ha; Al's word choices are always so vivid. Love it.

i usually don't mix that many metaphors tbh but i had just woken up from a nap

it's ok, they all land

bottling this gem and releasing it back into the wild in december 2013 to see how it smells then

― Poli oppa lice style (some dude), Friday, December 14, 2012 2:21 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark

i assume you'll be catching on right around then

where is this sudden meme about waka being joyous and charismatic coming from

like you guys are thinking of his PETA ads and not his actual musical output

his personality is that way & his music has trended that way at times since flockaveli but flockaveli is not that way at all

look at waka in the 'live by the gun' video & tell me hes not as or more detached & dead-eyed than keef has ever been

haha brutal zing j0rd

deej you know you cherrypicked one waka video out of 200 others where he's pulling grinning and pulling faces all over the place

lol pulling grinning sorry for typo

deej makes an important distinction tho

at least as far as flockaveli goes

keef may take the same track as he continues to isolate himself from the streets... i mean his grimmest tracks are certainly the earliest

citgo is so good. it's the song soulja boy should of made.

'zan with that lean' era soulja boy that is

deej you know you cherrypicked one waka video out of 200 others where he's pulling grinning and pulling faces all over the place

― Poli oppa lice style (some dude), Friday, December 14, 2012 4:06 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

which? the one that springs to mind is the one with keef, who is also grinning.

to me what is interesting about keef's style is that it is at once 'deadened' as ppl have described its ... detached-ness, but projected. Like, his voice jumps forward. I feel like for most rappers when you try to put that kind of energy in it, you lose that detached 'cool' cf pusha t in 2012

all of them besides 'live by the gun' iirc? like waka was hilarious in the 'bingo' video and that was one of his first big looks.

well it's not like the "i don't like" or "3hunna" videos depict a sad or detached keef. it's a different conversation.

yeah i'm not sure why videos were brought up to begin with just thought d-40's trying to hard w/ the waka video example

ew gross i called deej 'd-40' what is happening to me

what do they call you in the bay, '40 daughter'?

ok, well talk about his delivery on any track on waka's album.

what do they call you in the bay, '40 daughter'?

― Poli oppa lice style (some dude), Friday, December 14, 2012 4:17 PM (33 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol

i missed deej saying "video" cuz "live by the gun" is a pretty good counterexample to the narrative deej is trying to counter

dude seems more interested in melody than waka

ok look guys, forget the video -- i felt like live by the gun was a good example, visually, of waka's style more generally. his stuff that people really like almost never sounds 'joyous' or w/e, it's cement-brick-hard shit. right?

'no hands' is joyous tho but it's kind of an outlier if his biggest (?) song

i dunno out of his 5-10 biggest singles that only describes "hard in the paint" doesn't it? unless you're talking about his "core" fanbase's favorites vs. what most people actually know him for. xp

"waka will you be my baby daddy?" NO! **throws cinder block into wall**

i see 'hate being sober' being a radio smash tho and it's gonna be off keef's own back whereas you could prob argue 'no hands' was so popular cos of the sing-song hook.

i would agree waka has more charisma however

(i hope you have more bottles)

this is getting into hip hop dungeons & dragons territory but i think keef is the more charismatic artist by +2

i just think it's interesting that the Flockaveli thread even at the height of its excitement had a lot of fatalistic (and in retrospect realistic) talk about 'he made a great album but he'll never top this, it's all downhill from here' compared to the incredibly optimistic 7 day forecast itt

the direction keef seems to be pushing with this album suggests 50 is a better reference point anyway and i find it interesting how this sounds worlds apart from other rap music heavily influenced by 50 (e.g. max b)

i just think it's interesting that the Flockaveli thread even at the height of its excitement had a lot of fatalistic (and in retrospect realistic) talk about 'he made a great album but he'll never top this, it's all downhill from here' compared to the incredibly optimistic 7 day forecast itt

― some dude, Friday, December 14, 2012 4:34 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i mean...was that not true about waka?

i think this album is worse than flockaveli but he has more room to grow / higher ceiling. i mean, anything can happen, i think predicting these things is stupid. but the potential is there imo

i said 'in retrospect realistic', read the post jeez

i guess i have no idea what the best case scenario for chief keef's artistic growth or commercial prospects, maybe a lack of imagination on my part but i can't see it

idk what it is either but i didn't see good kid, maad city coming either

people were VERY primed for the kendrick album to do what it did, it was just the rare major label debut that actually fulfilled their expectations

http://i.imgur.com/ISzNR.gif

grim & unrelenting

what a vile dude with a grim presence and a pink backpack

dude you're the one constantly talking about how you believe 99% of all rappers are sociopaths and horrible human beings

oh they are, but i thought we were evaluating how he was presented thru his music & image as an artist

"he's a cold-blooded murderous thug, but how would they know? he has a pink backpack. those racists!"

there is a lot of, like, optimism on finally rich, like his constant references to his daughter and his friends

i don't know, very little of this strikes me as dark, cynical music

the feeling is back

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dDBzZ1_XYA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cql3XELoam4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RL4XT91tUmU

posted briefly in the other keef thread, on third listen... aoty

could easily list 10 or so highlights for this one. "neph nem," "grape trees," "treat myself," "i'm tryna sleep," "believe," "drifting away"

all self-produced too

lol @ chief sosa made drill, kanye think he did too

ha yeah i've been playing "drifting away" enough for the past 24 hours or so that my wife is already like "this fuckin song again"

7000 square feet n**** come from a damn cubicle!

almighty so 2 is amazing but dirty nachos was just as good imo don’t sleep on it

dirty nachos was a lot of fun, production is not on the same level tho.

he raps his ass off on both, to be sure

this is cool

Chief Keef sat down for an extremely rare interview with Zane Lowe to promote Almighty So 2.

Now 29, Sosa discusses what it was like to blow up at 16 years old and how his life has changed since. Beautiful to see. pic.twitter.com/WfuPP9Sxmq

— Andrew Barber (@fakeshoredrive) May 9, 2024

I'm mad keen to hear the new one if it's a return to his best form.

"drifting away" is incredible. i love how he references cash money, cam'ron, gucci & kanye. the first time i was listening to it before he shouts out kanye's beats it was making me think of "let the beat build," which is ofc a kanye beat. anyway keef is a pivotal figure in the history of rap and i love that despite being positioned by a lot of people w/ in rap culture as a destroyer of all things sacred he actually knows his artistic lineage better than a lot of his critics do.

truck sit up like a cowboy
i think i got more cars than every member of the hot boys
and we got broomsticks, hogwarts
and i ain't worried about the opps we don't fly the same airport

insanely good rapping on this song

first couple listens i thought he was saying he wanted to beat kanye's ass

another really good interview: https://www.grammy.com/news/chief-keef-almighty-so-2-new-album-interview

had no idea that was fabo yelling on the "almighty" intro

I love this. “I start wearing yellow diamonds, it look like I peed myself” -- lol.

very moving reading that article seeing what a good place he is and how restless his creative mindset is after the amount of terrible shit which got put on his shoulders and how patronising a lot of the early coverage of him was. love that he is still listening to mixtape gucci all the time.

posted briefly in the other keef thread, on third listen... aoty

― devvvine, Friday, 10 May 2024 15:39 (five days ago) bookmarkflaglink

will double down on this too

"believe" is so cool

from that grammys interview:

From the beginning of your career, you've had this association with the word "turbulence." You use Turbo as an alter ego.

[Laughs] How do you know all this? This is some Nardwuar s— right now, man.

in fairness they aren't used to interviewers making even the slightest effort

the whole album's good but i just keep coming back to "believe"

best Cher cover

https://open.substack.com/pub/ddrake/p/chief-keef-interview 2017 interview

“Jesus” is a journey