or maybe not stoked to be rapping as much as making rap songs, if that makes any sense at all...
― bish (bosch), don't kill my vibe (rennavate), Friday, 14 December 2012 18:47 (eleven years ago) link
I understand what you're saying. Keef is obviously engaged, and enjoying what he does—the record would be miserable if he didn't. But I don't sense the same "I'm loving every fucking minute of this" release from him that I do from Flocka. He takes a much more austere posture.
― Evan R, Friday, 14 December 2012 19:03 (eleven years ago) link
he's gonna be around for a bit
― salute me or crut me (J0rdan S.), Friday, December 14, 2012 1:23 PM (57 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
bottling this gem and releasing it back into the wild in december 2013 to see how it smells then
― Poli oppa lice style (some dude), Friday, 14 December 2012 19:21 (eleven years ago) link
Lol
― Raymond Cummings, Friday, 14 December 2012 19:53 (eleven years ago) link
ha; Al's word choices are always so vivid. Love it.
― Evan R, Friday, 14 December 2012 20:12 (eleven years ago) link
i usually don't mix that many metaphors tbh but i had just woken up from a nap
― Poli oppa lice style (some dude), Friday, 14 December 2012 20:18 (eleven years ago) link
it's ok, they all land
― Evan R, Friday, 14 December 2012 20:26 (eleven years ago) link
― Poli oppa lice style (some dude), Friday, December 14, 2012 2:21 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark
i assume you'll be catching on right around then
― salute me or crut me (J0rdan S.), Friday, 14 December 2012 21:09 (eleven years ago) link
where is this sudden meme about waka being joyous and charismatic coming from
― D-40, Friday, 14 December 2012 22:02 (eleven years ago) link
like you guys are thinking of his PETA ads and not his actual musical output
his personality is that way & his music has trended that way at times since flockaveli but flockaveli is not that way at all
― salute me or crut me (J0rdan S.), Friday, 14 December 2012 22:03 (eleven years ago) link
look at waka in the 'live by the gun' video & tell me hes not as or more detached & dead-eyed than keef has ever been
― D-40, Friday, 14 December 2012 22:04 (eleven years ago) link
haha brutal zing j0rd
― Poli oppa lice style (some dude), Friday, 14 December 2012 22:05 (eleven years ago) link
deej you know you cherrypicked one waka video out of 200 others where he's pulling grinning and pulling faces all over the place
― Poli oppa lice style (some dude), Friday, 14 December 2012 22:06 (eleven years ago) link
lol pulling grinning sorry for typo
deej makes an important distinction tho
― salute me or crut me (J0rdan S.), Friday, 14 December 2012 22:07 (eleven years ago) link
at least as far as flockaveli goes
― salute me or crut me (J0rdan S.), Friday, 14 December 2012 22:08 (eleven years ago) link
keef may take the same track as he continues to isolate himself from the streets... i mean his grimmest tracks are certainly the earliest
citgo is so good. it's the song soulja boy should of made.
― tpp, Friday, 14 December 2012 22:09 (eleven years ago) link
'zan with that lean' era soulja boy that is
― tpp, Friday, 14 December 2012 22:10 (eleven years ago) link
― Poli oppa lice style (some dude), Friday, December 14, 2012 4:06 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
which? the one that springs to mind is the one with keef, who is also grinning.
to me what is interesting about keef's style is that it is at once 'deadened' as ppl have described its ... detached-ness, but projected. Like, his voice jumps forward. I feel like for most rappers when you try to put that kind of energy in it, you lose that detached 'cool' cf pusha t in 2012
― D-40, Friday, 14 December 2012 22:11 (eleven years ago) link
all of them besides 'live by the gun' iirc? like waka was hilarious in the 'bingo' video and that was one of his first big looks.
― Poli oppa lice style (some dude), Friday, 14 December 2012 22:12 (eleven years ago) link
well it's not like the "i don't like" or "3hunna" videos depict a sad or detached keef. it's a different conversation.
― salute me or crut me (J0rdan S.), Friday, 14 December 2012 22:14 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i'm not sure why videos were brought up to begin with just thought d-40's trying to hard w/ the waka video example
― Poli oppa lice style (some dude), Friday, 14 December 2012 22:16 (eleven years ago) link
ew gross i called deej 'd-40' what is happening to me
― Poli oppa lice style (some dude), Friday, 14 December 2012 22:17 (eleven years ago) link
what do they call you in the bay, '40 daughter'?
ok, well talk about his delivery on any track on waka's album.
― D-40, Friday, 14 December 2012 22:18 (eleven years ago) link
― Poli oppa lice style (some dude), Friday, December 14, 2012 4:17 PM (33 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
lol
i missed deej saying "video" cuz "live by the gun" is a pretty good counterexample to the narrative deej is trying to counter
― salute me or crut me (J0rdan S.), Friday, 14 December 2012 22:19 (eleven years ago) link
dude seems more interested in melody than waka
― tpp, Friday, 14 December 2012 22:21 (eleven years ago) link
ok look guys, forget the video -- i felt like live by the gun was a good example, visually, of waka's style more generally. his stuff that people really like almost never sounds 'joyous' or w/e, it's cement-brick-hard shit. right?
― D-40, Friday, 14 December 2012 22:25 (eleven years ago) link
'no hands' is joyous tho but it's kind of an outlier if his biggest (?) song
― tpp, Friday, 14 December 2012 22:27 (eleven years ago) link
i dunno out of his 5-10 biggest singles that only describes "hard in the paint" doesn't it? unless you're talking about his "core" fanbase's favorites vs. what most people actually know him for. xp
― some dude, Friday, 14 December 2012 22:28 (eleven years ago) link
"waka will you be my baby daddy?" NO! **throws cinder block into wall**
― some dude, Friday, 14 December 2012 22:29 (eleven years ago) link
i see 'hate being sober' being a radio smash tho and it's gonna be off keef's own back whereas you could prob argue 'no hands' was so popular cos of the sing-song hook.
― tpp, Friday, 14 December 2012 22:30 (eleven years ago) link
i would agree waka has more charisma however
― tpp, Friday, 14 December 2012 22:32 (eleven years ago) link
(i hope you have more bottles)
― tpp, Friday, 14 December 2012 22:33 (eleven years ago) link
this is getting into hip hop dungeons & dragons territory but i think keef is the more charismatic artist by +2
― D-40, Friday, 14 December 2012 22:34 (eleven years ago) link
i just think it's interesting that the Flockaveli thread even at the height of its excitement had a lot of fatalistic (and in retrospect realistic) talk about 'he made a great album but he'll never top this, it's all downhill from here' compared to the incredibly optimistic 7 day forecast itt
― some dude, Friday, 14 December 2012 22:34 (eleven years ago) link
the direction keef seems to be pushing with this album suggests 50 is a better reference point anyway and i find it interesting how this sounds worlds apart from other rap music heavily influenced by 50 (e.g. max b)
― tpp, Friday, 14 December 2012 22:39 (eleven years ago) link
― some dude, Friday, December 14, 2012 4:34 PM (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
i mean...was that not true about waka?
i think this album is worse than flockaveli but he has more room to grow / higher ceiling. i mean, anything can happen, i think predicting these things is stupid. but the potential is there imo
― D-40, Friday, 14 December 2012 22:47 (eleven years ago) link
i said 'in retrospect realistic', read the post jeez
i guess i have no idea what the best case scenario for chief keef's artistic growth or commercial prospects, maybe a lack of imagination on my part but i can't see it
― some dude, Friday, 14 December 2012 22:53 (eleven years ago) link
idk what it is either but i didn't see good kid, maad city coming either
― salute me or crut me (J0rdan S.), Friday, 14 December 2012 22:54 (eleven years ago) link
people were VERY primed for the kendrick album to do what it did, it was just the rare major label debut that actually fulfilled their expectations
― some dude, Friday, 14 December 2012 22:57 (eleven years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/ISzNR.gif
grim & unrelenting
― D-40, Friday, 14 December 2012 23:06 (eleven years ago) link
what a vile dude with a grim presence and a pink backpack
― D-40, Friday, 14 December 2012 23:07 (eleven years ago) link
dude you're the one constantly talking about how you believe 99% of all rappers are sociopaths and horrible human beings
― some dude, Friday, 14 December 2012 23:09 (eleven years ago) link
oh they are, but i thought we were evaluating how he was presented thru his music & image as an artist
― D-40, Friday, 14 December 2012 23:11 (eleven years ago) link
"he's a cold-blooded murderous thug, but how would they know? he has a pink backpack. those racists!"
― some dude, Friday, 14 December 2012 23:19 (eleven years ago) link
there is a lot of, like, optimism on finally rich, like his constant references to his daughter and his friends
i don't know, very little of this strikes me as dark, cynical music
― bish (bosch), don't kill my vibe (rennavate), Friday, 14 December 2012 23:45 (eleven years ago) link
posted briefly in the other keef thread, on third listen... aoty
― devvvine, Friday, 10 May 2024 14:39 (four months ago) link
could easily list 10 or so highlights for this one. "neph nem," "grape trees," "treat myself," "i'm tryna sleep," "believe," "drifting away"
all self-produced too
― the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Friday, 10 May 2024 15:24 (four months ago) link
lol @ chief sosa made drill, kanye think he did too
― devvvine, Friday, 10 May 2024 15:33 (four months ago) link
ha yeah i've been playing "drifting away" enough for the past 24 hours or so that my wife is already like "this fuckin song again"
― the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Friday, 10 May 2024 15:49 (four months ago) link
7000 square feet n**** come from a damn cubicle!
― the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Friday, 10 May 2024 15:53 (four months ago) link
almighty so 2 is amazing but dirty nachos was just as good imo don’t sleep on it
― flopson, Friday, 10 May 2024 16:15 (four months ago) link
dirty nachos was a lot of fun, production is not on the same level tho.
― the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Friday, 10 May 2024 16:17 (four months ago) link
he raps his ass off on both, to be sure
― the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Friday, 10 May 2024 16:23 (four months ago) link
this is cool
Chief Keef sat down for an extremely rare interview with Zane Lowe to promote Almighty So 2. Now 29, Sosa discusses what it was like to blow up at 16 years old and how his life has changed since. Beautiful to see. pic.twitter.com/WfuPP9Sxmq— Andrew Barber (@fakeshoredrive) May 9, 2024
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 10 May 2024 16:25 (four months ago) link
I'm mad keen to hear the new one if it's a return to his best form.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 10 May 2024 17:32 (four months ago) link
"drifting away" is incredible. i love how he references cash money, cam'ron, gucci & kanye. the first time i was listening to it before he shouts out kanye's beats it was making me think of "let the beat build," which is ofc a kanye beat. anyway keef is a pivotal figure in the history of rap and i love that despite being positioned by a lot of people w/ in rap culture as a destroyer of all things sacred he actually knows his artistic lineage better than a lot of his critics do.
truck sit up like a cowboyi think i got more cars than every member of the hot boysand we got broomsticks, hogwarts and i ain't worried about the opps we don't fly the same airport
insanely good rapping on this song
― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Friday, 10 May 2024 19:51 (four months ago) link
first couple listens i thought he was saying he wanted to beat kanye's ass
― the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Saturday, 11 May 2024 01:49 (four months ago) link
another really good interview: https://www.grammy.com/news/chief-keef-almighty-so-2-new-album-interview
had no idea that was fabo yelling on the "almighty" intro
― the defenestration of prog (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 14 May 2024 16:44 (four months ago) link
I love this. “I start wearing yellow diamonds, it look like I peed myself” -- lol.
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 May 2024 17:47 (four months ago) link
very moving reading that article seeing what a good place he is and how restless his creative mindset is after the amount of terrible shit which got put on his shoulders and how patronising a lot of the early coverage of him was. love that he is still listening to mixtape gucci all the time.
― devvvine, Wednesday, 15 May 2024 09:07 (four months ago) link
― devvvine, Friday, 10 May 2024 15:39 (five days ago) bookmarkflaglink
will double down on this too
"believe" is so cool
― ufo, Wednesday, 15 May 2024 12:12 (four months ago) link
from that grammys interview:
From the beginning of your career, you've had this association with the word "turbulence." You use Turbo as an alter ego.[Laughs] How do you know all this? This is some Nardwuar s— right now, man.
[Laughs] How do you know all this? This is some Nardwuar s— right now, man.
― flopson, Wednesday, 15 May 2024 13:51 (four months ago) link
in fairness they aren't used to interviewers making even the slightest effort
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 15 May 2024 13:56 (four months ago) link
the whole album's good but i just keep coming back to "believe"
― ufo, Saturday, 18 May 2024 09:53 (four months ago) link
best Cher cover
― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 18 May 2024 09:57 (four months ago) link
https://open.substack.com/pub/ddrake/p/chief-keef-interview 2017 interview
― xheugy eddy (D-40), Saturday, 18 May 2024 15:58 (four months ago) link
“Jesus” is a journey
― flopson, Monday, 20 May 2024 21:58 (four months ago) link
That time Chief Keef almost blew up his house on the Fourth of July 😳 pic.twitter.com/KoD9u7ZOSL— XXL Magazine (@XXL) July 4, 2024
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 4 July 2024 07:27 (two months ago) link