checkmate, imo
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 4 January 2013 17:13 (eleven years ago) link
wish I could download and check the metadata
― 乒乓, Friday, 4 January 2013 17:14 (eleven years ago) link
how is yet another track that's better without her on top of it "checkmate"?
― Angel Haze is my hero (DJP), Friday, 4 January 2013 17:16 (eleven years ago) link
the beat is from 2011. Very suspicious
― Number None, Friday, 4 January 2013 17:16 (eleven years ago) link
I declare this a victory for ... Rap Music
― 乒乓, Friday, 4 January 2013 17:18 (eleven years ago) link
I'm giving round 1 to Haze.
― hemioblock (The Reverend), Friday, 4 January 2013 18:02 (eleven years ago) link
Both lose imo.
― Ya Bish Bosch (Spottie_Ottie_Dope), Friday, 4 January 2013 18:06 (eleven years ago) link
"Seriously, if you were not born and raised in NY.... DON'T CLAIM NY. YOU ARE NOT A NEW YORKER"
i think AB lost it right there
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 4 January 2013 18:44 (eleven years ago) link
"where is THE NEW YORKER HOTEL. where are the headquarters of THE NEW YORKER MAGAZINE? oh that's right, the TWO ONE TWO"
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 4 January 2013 18:45 (eleven years ago) link
i might have made that one up
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 4 January 2013 18:46 (eleven years ago) link
"Seriously, if you do not make your living slinging crack rocks and shooting people in the face… DON'T CLAIM THE DRUG TRADE. YOU ARE NOT A REAL GANGSTA."
― Deafening silence (DL), Friday, 4 January 2013 18:48 (eleven years ago) link
Rappers claiming things - where will it end?
― Deafening silence (DL), Friday, 4 January 2013 18:49 (eleven years ago) link
wait you guys are really offended by azealia's original claim? what's objectionable about it?
― J0rdan S., Friday, 4 January 2013 18:49 (eleven years ago) link
that new york is a city of immigrants? of people who moved there?
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 4 January 2013 18:54 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, every place has a right to a "locals only" attitude, even (and especially) NYC.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 4 January 2013 18:54 (eleven years ago) link
xp Well for one thing it misses the point of the track. Haze has been open about coming from Michigan and writing it when she'd only just moved to New York so it's knowingly outrageous - you arrive somewhere and you have so much self-belief that you feel like you own it. She's not trying to trick anybody.
― Deafening silence (DL), Friday, 4 January 2013 18:55 (eleven years ago) link
its concern with policing boundaries?
xposts
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 4 January 2013 18:55 (eleven years ago) link
i believe that's what anti-immigrant rhetoric worldwide stems from, yes
xp exactly
― lex pretend, Friday, 4 January 2013 18:55 (eleven years ago) link
exactly to DL re: the track's chutzpah
― lex pretend, Friday, 4 January 2013 18:56 (eleven years ago) link
i mean c'mon that is some backwards type of attidude
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 4 January 2013 18:56 (eleven years ago) link
like, it's specifically designed to rile born'n'raised new yorkers and AZB fell for it
TUDE
haha yeah
i think seeing that as "anti-immigrant" is reading a bit too much into it
― J0rdan S., Friday, 4 January 2013 18:59 (eleven years ago) link
I'm probably a little more meek than Angel Haze, but I wouldn't move to someplace and act like I own the shit, and I especially wouldn't start a beef with someone who's been there her whole life and has a certain amount of pride about that fact.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 4 January 2013 18:59 (eleven years ago) link
i mean that is new york's one and only sure-fire guarantee to everyone, that if you live there and you have affection for it, you are a new yorker, no questions asked
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 4 January 2013 19:00 (eleven years ago) link
and the fact that azealia appears not to know that kind of makes me question her new york credentials, tbh!
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 4 January 2013 19:01 (eleven years ago) link
xp I don't judge MCs according to what I'd do in their situation.
― Deafening silence (DL), Friday, 4 January 2013 19:01 (eleven years ago) link
this was re: any type of "locals only" or "locals first" attitude, in any form. i mean it really really is, i think that attitude is poisonous
― lex pretend, Friday, 4 January 2013 19:01 (eleven years ago) link
NYC welcomes all, but there's definitely a certain amount of pride among people who were born there. I don't begrudge them that.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 4 January 2013 19:02 (eleven years ago) link
i was under the impression that people born and raised in new york were forcefully territorial about the idea of "being a new yorker"
― J0rdan S., Friday, 4 January 2013 19:02 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.dvdactive.com/images/reviews/screenshot/2008/7/gony1.jpg
― Deafening silence (DL), Friday, 4 January 2013 19:03 (eleven years ago) link
finally, someone to rep for the 212
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 4 January 2013 19:04 (eleven years ago) link
If I'd been born in Bed-Stuy and was constantly bombarded by hipster douchebags who just moved in from Oklahoma acting like they know what's what, I'd get a little protective of my identity and of those like me.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 4 January 2013 19:05 (eleven years ago) link
#GONY
― jazbay crostata (forksclovetofu), Friday, 4 January 2013 19:05 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.weird-strange-facts.com/images/250px-Statue_of_Liberty_7.jpg
Give me your tired, your poor/Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free/Seriously if you were not born and raised in NY/DON'T CLAIM NY YOU ARE NOT A NEW YORKER
― kristof-profiting-from-a-childs-illiteracy.html (schlump), Friday, 4 January 2013 19:06 (eleven years ago) link
I get the impression that ppl are territorial about being from specific boroughs but not "New York" as a gestalt entity
I have no idea if that impression makes any sense, btw
― Angel Haze is my hero (DJP), Friday, 4 January 2013 19:06 (eleven years ago) link
it's cool when people in new york are not from new york because then they are not huge downers about what the city is like
― kristof-profiting-from-a-childs-illiteracy.html (schlump), Friday, 4 January 2013 19:07 (eleven years ago) link
NO ONE gets territorial about manhattan - in my experience? it's the overdog! and then here's this whole song named after it, 212, i mean you need a landline for that, and newer landlines don't even get 212 numbers anymore do they?
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 4 January 2013 19:14 (eleven years ago) link
AB is really not a very good lyricist.
― s.clover, Friday, 4 January 2013 19:16 (eleven years ago) link
truth about manhattan tho. anyone who could have possibly gotten territorial about it was priced out decades ago. BK otoh.
― s.clover, Friday, 4 January 2013 19:17 (eleven years ago) link
yeah brooklyn is really a cheap place to live fer shur
― jazbay crostata (forksclovetofu), Friday, 4 January 2013 19:32 (eleven years ago) link
please state your borough-specific squabbles in the form of a beef tweets.
― fauxmarc, Friday, 4 January 2013 19:38 (eleven years ago) link
http://soundcloud.com/angelhazeym/shut-the-fuck-up-angel-haze
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 4 January 2013 19:53 (eleven years ago) link
wait, let me seriously backpedal here. Harlem is in manhattan, and people rep harlem of course. Can't think of anyone really doing the same for e.g. washington heights or inwood, but in principle there's no reason they couldn't. it's a really interesting immigrant mix in those parts though, so "born and raised" doesn't necessarily fly.
― s.clover, Friday, 4 January 2013 19:54 (eleven years ago) link
Man, 24 hours ago I really liked Angel Haze. Now, notsomuch.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 4 January 2013 19:55 (eleven years ago) link
hoo boy
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 4 January 2013 19:56 (eleven years ago) link
can't really accuse her of beating around the bush, huh
― Angel Haze is my hero (DJP), Friday, 4 January 2013 19:59 (eleven years ago) link
can't really accuse of her ignoring bush, eh
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 4 January 2013 20:00 (eleven years ago) link
i think in most professions and even genres of music being a native new yorker is not that big a deal (like, nobody really gives a fuck where all the "Brooklyn" indie rock bands are originally from). but it's totally different with rappers, there's all the "birthplace of hip hop" stuff and a history of guys accusing each other of being from upstate/Jersey/etc. it's like that in EVERY major city, if two rappers are beefing one will accuse the other from being from the burbs or of not spending any time in the neighborhood they claim.
― some dude, Friday, 4 January 2013 20:02 (eleven years ago) link
"if i'm feeling froggy / i jump 'em like they geronimo." "got that fire flow / my tonsils prolly fuckin crispy."
― s.clover, Friday, 4 January 2013 20:02 (eleven years ago) link