doesn't work in canada and i am SO UPSET.
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Monday, 14 January 2013 18:08 (eleven years ago) link
This album's length really works in its favor; this is a satisfying one to lose yourself in. So much beautiful empty space, especially in that final stretch
― Evan and I'm Gettin' It (Evan R), Monday, 14 January 2013 18:13 (eleven years ago) link
yeah it's not quite as sprawling as Last Train To Paris but it's probably more immersive.
― some dude, Monday, 14 January 2013 18:19 (eleven years ago) link
we could have parted seas just / to walk on the floor of oceans / ohhhh
― r|t|c, Monday, 14 January 2013 18:26 (eleven years ago) link
like damn yo
hah classic example of the alleged iffy songwriting that actually sounds rad i guess
― r|t|c, Monday, 14 January 2013 18:29 (eleven years ago) link
and this love could've built up armies / of nations unstoppable / ohhhh
so apt that the album ends with dawn actually forming her own nation state
― lex pretend, Monday, 14 January 2013 18:32 (eleven years ago) link
xp eh, I still think her battle motifs are tacky and not very imaginative, but I can let that slide since that's not really the hook here, and it's carry-over criticism from Armor On
― Evan and I'm Gettin' It (Evan R), Monday, 14 January 2013 18:34 (eleven years ago) link
the opening line of "300" is "i feel like leonidas / battling the titans / a thousand soldiers against one sword" which appears to be a reference to either the film or to some sort of role playing game
the more OTT the battle motifs the better, i don't know how you can have an issue with this
― lex pretend, Monday, 14 January 2013 18:35 (eleven years ago) link
It's the film, yes.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 14 January 2013 18:36 (eleven years ago) link
(Strictly speaking the comic but anyway.)
battle motifs: Tacky? or tactical?
― Drugs A. Money, Monday, 14 January 2013 18:37 (eleven years ago) link
a comic, of course it is
― lex pretend, Monday, 14 January 2013 18:38 (eleven years ago) link
strictly strictly speaking Greek history and legend
― some dude, Monday, 14 January 2013 18:39 (eleven years ago) link
i cant be the only one who finds this a lil samey relative to LTTP
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Monday, 14 January 2013 18:40 (eleven years ago) link
xp the greek king leonidas (historical) never fought the titans (mythical) though
― lex pretend, Monday, 14 January 2013 18:46 (eleven years ago) link
Dawn's stuff feels pretty distinct from Dirty Money to me at this point -- if any 2 records risk crowding each other's space it's Golden Heart and Armor On
― some dude, Monday, 14 January 2013 18:48 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i'm not pretending to be an expert. did frank miller invent that part of the myth though? xp
― some dude, Monday, 14 January 2013 18:49 (eleven years ago) link
i think she threw those together just for the rhyme.
― goole, Monday, 14 January 2013 18:51 (eleven years ago) link
like that she interpolates both phil collins and peter gabriel over the course of the record, so i can just think of it as prog
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 14 January 2013 18:59 (eleven years ago) link
at a couple of points there are these almost old-agey computer music stabs, an ancient-future music, then with the 300 deal, yes, what a progger would be mining these days, if they existed.
which they don't.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 14 January 2013 19:04 (eleven years ago) link
30 seconds in and I CANNOT WAIT TO DROP MONEY ON THIS ALBUM
― ;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝ (乒乓), Monday, 14 January 2013 19:48 (eleven years ago) link
oh thank god. i have finally found a way to make this work.
and In the Hearts Tonight ALONE ugh wow ugh wow what
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Monday, 14 January 2013 19:57 (eleven years ago) link
Proggers exist, but they think Dream Theater is hip and cutting edge.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 14 January 2013 20:09 (eleven years ago) link
(Obviously not every one but...too many.)
really happy how much clapping there is on here
― ;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝ (乒乓), Monday, 14 January 2013 20:20 (eleven years ago) link
that's why i fux with you bb
― ;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝ (乒乓), Monday, 14 January 2013 20:25 (eleven years ago) link
midtempo clapping, too!
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Monday, 14 January 2013 20:27 (eleven years ago) link
i.e. frequency!
also, never stop with the c0rny spoken word interludes dawn <3
woah @ all of this. brb picking my jaw up from the floor
― prolego, Monday, 14 January 2013 20:32 (eleven years ago) link
man. i liked 86 but didn't love it in the context of it being the first single post-armor on.
but 3/4 of the way through GoldenHeart oh my goodness it's fucking devastating.
― twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Monday, 14 January 2013 20:40 (eleven years ago) link
just finished and I'm not gonna play it again til it's released
but I will say that 'whiteout' seems to have been more predictive than we had thought, so allow me to say
i told u
― ;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝ (乒乓), Monday, 14 January 2013 20:54 (eleven years ago) link
ok listening finally
― bish (bosch), don't kill my vibe (rennavate), Monday, 14 January 2013 21:08 (eleven years ago) link
EACH SWING I COUNTER I LOOK TO MY FATHERI ASK HIM FOR FAVOUR TO TAKE DOWN THIS MONSTERALL FOR THE HONOUR IT GAVE ME THE POWERTO DO LIKE NO OTHER TO SAY I HAVE CONQUERED
― lex pretend, Monday, 14 January 2013 21:24 (eleven years ago) link
the outro's really pretty as are other parts of this album but especially the outro
― The Reverend, Monday, 14 January 2013 21:26 (eleven years ago) link
it's p hard to fuck up claire de lune tbh, probably the greatest song ever written (no lie)
― ;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝;⃝‿⃝ (乒乓), Monday, 14 January 2013 21:27 (eleven years ago) link
outro is wonderful, seriously one of the most affecting and satisfying finales to an album i can recall i think
pure pure pure after-the-curtain-falls lonely spotlight schmaltz but so good
even its borrowedness is meaningful
― r|t|c, Monday, 14 January 2013 21:30 (eleven years ago) link
the 'pretty wicked things'/'goldenheart' suite p much completely rejects this reading of dawn as mildly autistic fantasist
the sorrow for the "fallen tales" of the former, then the yearning once more for "white knights, white horses" of the latter is a prism you can read the entire album through
― r|t|c, Monday, 14 January 2013 21:45 (eleven years ago) link
The final third of this album is fantastic, although I'm a bit underwhelmed by the rest, especially the first third. Think it's something to do with Dawn's vocal presence, like she's gone for for stateliness over the snap of Armor On and Tell Tale Heart. Like she sounds like she's floating over the top of the battle surrounded by a disc of light when on previous records she'd have been right in the fray.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 09:43 (eleven years ago) link
'86 video. danity kane tribute or shade?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-C_NAt6uHY
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 11:44 (eleven years ago) link
the album actually took several listens for me to really get my head around/into it (partly because i only had an unmastered copy for ages) but it was def the less in-your-face final third that took the most time for me to fall for.
i loved "bombs" and "automatic", but even on armor on, by the end of the ep you'd pretty much left them behind, and it would feel odd for similar songs with that hip-hop snap to be on goldenheart...
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 11:47 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah I'm definitely prepared for it to open up before me, but the final third clicked immediately, maybe because the vocal melodies are stronger. I'm kind of missing the rhythmic tricksiness of Armor On as well, a lot of this one is very... hymnal, even over the bangers. Northern Lights is great though.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 11:57 (eleven years ago) link
there's so much going on rhythmically here though - all those handclaps interacting with the main rhythm line in so many of the tracks...
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 11:59 (eleven years ago) link
does anyone else have the problem that 'gleaux' just makes you want to go and listen to Last Train To Paris another eleven times? (i can only assume that's why pretty wicked things comes next, to keep you from wandering away)
― my chemtrails romance (c sharp major), Tuesday, 15 January 2013 12:20 (eleven years ago) link
it would feel odd for similar songs with that hip-hop snap to be on goldenheart...
Why? There are some pretty in-your-face beats on the first half of the album, it's full of battle imagery.
I suppose the chorus of Pretty Wicked Thing encapsulates the sort of thing I'm getting at, there are several moments here where her vocal presence and melodies don't quite do justice to the force of the track (and the production is great throughout).
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 12:30 (eleven years ago) link
this album is fucking nuts, and also completely incredible
― monotony, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 12:45 (eleven years ago) link
kind of curious to see how reviewers approach it, especially with the full-on commitment to the warrior motif, and the lack of pop / calling-card track to rally around
but like, the gauntlet for AOTY 2013 has well and truly been thrown down
― monotony, Tuesday, 15 January 2013 12:51 (eleven years ago) link
lol that our mutual love of dawn has turned us all into LARPers
― Ξ̿̿̿̿̿̿Ξ̿̿̿̿̿̿̿̿̿̿̿̿̿̿Ξ̿̿̿̿̿̿ (乒乓), Tuesday, 15 January 2013 12:53 (eleven years ago) link
LARP&B