ah the old "whip-smart"
― r|t|c, Thursday, 17 January 2013 18:05 (eleven years ago) link
???
does that read as sexist or something?
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Thursday, 17 January 2013 18:15 (eleven years ago) link
would you prefer "smart as a whip"?
i mean i'd describe, i dunno, hal hartley the same way.
Is the Guardian worse than it used to be?
― Matt DC, Thursday, 17 January 2013 19:23 (eleven years ago) link
Don't Save Me feels like its coming from a similar place to Francis and the Lights, of whom I am a stan.
― space phwoar (Hurting 2), Thursday, 17 January 2013 19:45 (eleven years ago) link
although emotionally more flat and less unhinged
― space phwoar (Hurting 2), Thursday, 17 January 2013 19:46 (eleven years ago) link
more hinged?
― space phwoar (Hurting 2), Thursday, 17 January 2013 19:47 (eleven years ago) link
I'm not sure I need much beyond Don't Save Me, but that new Lissvik mix is pretty cool imo.
― Two days left to vote in the ILM End of Year Poll! (seandalai), Thursday, 17 January 2013 19:51 (eleven years ago) link
― space phwoar (Hurting 2), Thursday, January 17, 2013 9:45 AM (40 minutes ago)
hurting i cant remember if ive ever seen a wdyll of you or not but whenever you post i picture you as a dude who looks like francis, albeit one w/ less dramatic hair
― ❏❐❑❒ (gr8080), Thursday, 17 January 2013 20:28 (eleven years ago) link
that's not a far fetched description of me
― space phwoar (Hurting 2), Thursday, 17 January 2013 20:40 (eleven years ago) link
maybe slightly less dramatically svelte also
― space phwoar (Hurting 2), Thursday, 17 January 2013 20:41 (eleven years ago) link
xp I referred to a man as whip-smart in a piece the other day. I've never thought of it as gendered in the way that "sassy" is.
― Deafening silence (DL), Friday, 18 January 2013 10:48 (eleven years ago) link
I sort of do. cf "Sharp as a tack".
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 18 January 2013 11:00 (eleven years ago) link
I basically only hear it used about women, and usually attractive women. I always detect a slight "you'll never guess, she's intelligent as well, I'm so proud of her!" in the term.
― Matt DC, Friday, 18 January 2013 11:19 (eleven years ago) link
fit as a butcher's dog
― owenf, Friday, 18 January 2013 14:22 (eleven years ago) link
I've never read any gender association into either "whip-smart" or "sharp as a tack", though the term "whip-smart" now always makes me immediately think of Liz Phair.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 18 January 2013 14:29 (eleven years ago) link
likewise
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 January 2013 14:32 (eleven years ago) link
yup.
― whose black line is it anyway? (how's life), Friday, 18 January 2013 15:08 (eleven years ago) link
i just thought "whip-smart" was a cliché rather than a specifically gendered cliché
― lex pretend, Friday, 18 January 2013 15:10 (eleven years ago) link
pre-Liz Phair examples of the phrase "whip smart" from lexis nexis:
1. Comic relief saves July cable lineupSt. Petersburg Times (Florida), July 4, 1989, Tuesday, City Edition, FLORIDIAN; Cable;, 375 words, Thomas B. Harrison ... director Ron Shelton. Whip-smart and funny, with a solid ... 2. Critics recommend 'Jones' for fun-seekersOrange County Register (California), May 26, 1989 Friday, 647 words ... In his third adventure, whip-smart archeologist Indiana Joneshas to ... 3. A BLESSING IN REPRISE // 'Eleemosynary' explores familiar women's themesSt. Petersburg Times (Florida), May 26, 1989, Friday, City Edition, WEEKEND; Pg. 24, 1133 words, THOMAS B. HARRISON ... fear of intimacy. Artie's whip-smart daughter, Echo (actually ... 4. CONNECTICUT OPINION; Thank You, Mark TwainThe New York Times, April 30, 1989, Sunday, Late City Final Edition, Section 12CN; Page 30, Column 3; Connecticut Weekly Desk, 667 words, By Ed McNamara; Ed McNamara lives in Stamford. ... infallible memory of some whip-smart computer in the publisher's ... 5. All this sex can mean just one thing: it's sweeps timeThe San Diego Union-Tribune, February 4, 1989 Saturday, ENTERTAINMENT; Pg. B-13, 959 words, GREG JOSEPH ... Starletta DuPois); Lena's whip-smart daughter Beneatha (Kim ... 6. 'Silent Night': a quiet baring of soulsSt. Petersburg Times (Florida), October 19, 1988, Wednesday, City Edition, FLORIDIAN; Theater Review; Pg. 1D, THOMAS B. HARRISON ... Peter Joseph, as Katherine's whip-smart son. Director Sanders (To ... 7. 'Fourth Protocol' is first choice on cableSt. Petersburg Times (Florida), July 2, 1988, Saturday, City Edition, FLORIDIAN; ON CABLE; Pg. 3D, THOMAS B. HARRISON ... efficiency expert (Tracy) and the whip-smart researcher (Hepburn) he woos and ... 8. Perretti's; Win, place or just show, N.J. spot is good grazingCrain's New York Business, October 27, 1986, RESTAURANT REVIEW; Pg. 48, 622 words, By BOB LAPE, SPECIAL TO CRAINS' NEW YORK BUSINESS ... 22), and Oscar, a whip-smart young captain, filets the ... 9. Nino's Grill; Bruno's upstairs annex triumphs with light ItalianCrain's New York Business, October 20, 1986, RESTAURANT REVIEW; Pg. 28, 634 words, By BOB LAPE, SPECIAL TO CRAINS' NEW YORK BUSINESS ... at Nino's Grill is the whip-smart young Ted Anderson ( ... 10. WHEN EMPIRES COLLIDE: Fierce battle threatened when the Reichmanns' expansion drive bumped into the BronfmansThe Financial Post (Toronto, Canada), October 4, 1986, Saturday,, 2186 words, Peter Foster ... Jack Cockwell, a whip-smart South African-born ... 11. Slow Going in 'Beverly Hills'The Washington Post, December 7, 1984, Friday, Final Edition, Weekend; Weekend at the Movies; Pg. 39, 330 words, Rita Kempley ... puts Foley, a whip-smart, Motor City Dirty ... 12. Comedy With Class; The Creative Spark Behind CBS' 'Kate & Allie'The Washington Post, March 19, 1984, Monday, Final Edition, Style; TV Preview; C1, 1168 words, By Tom Shales ... for a classy, whip-smart sitcom, and she brings her special ... 13. The managers; a gallery of notable and quotable newsmaking executives.Dun's Business Month, January 1, 1984, Pg. p113(2), 1355 words ... more than $300,000, whip-smart Vanderslice--who holds ... 14. The Duke's DownfallNewsweek, October 2, 1978, UNITED STATES EDITION, NATIONAL AFFAIRS; Pg. 50, 1040 words, DON HOLT with PHYLLIS MALAMUD in Boston and bureau reports ... Massachusetts defeated a whip-smart, attractive and moderately liberal ...
― whose black line is it anyway? (how's life), Friday, 18 January 2013 17:01 (eleven years ago) link
any adjective applied to indiana jones has got to be a compliment
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 19 January 2013 02:14 (eleven years ago) link
even if it is a pun
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Saturday, 19 January 2013 02:15 (eleven years ago) link
Kind of wish I hadn't watched that interview with them. I mostly like their songs, but find their personalities pretty annoying.
― _Rudipherous_, Saturday, 2 February 2013 16:53 (eleven years ago) link
OK so
http://stereogum.com/1258291/haim-falling/mp3s/
― piscesx, Tuesday, 12 February 2013 15:34 (eleven years ago) link
Like it. (I also found them personally okay when watching a short documentary about them, so maybe they just get into some sort of annoying mode in some interviews.)
― _Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 12 February 2013 17:40 (eleven years ago) link
they are super charming imo, wkiw
― een, Tuesday, 12 February 2013 18:14 (eleven years ago) link
DRUMS
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Tuesday, 12 February 2013 18:23 (eleven years ago) link
Feeling like Bryan Ferry would admire the instrumental framework for Falling. Somehow the solo Bryan Ferry comparison is jumping out at me, when I'm sure there are much closer comparisons to be drawn. This is way too peppy for solo Bryan Ferry (post- like mid-70s). Maybe it's the use of real instruments to create a very polished, piece of pop with a bit of a dance beat.
― _Rudipherous_, Wednesday, 13 February 2013 16:07 (eleven years ago) link
Now we need to get Bryan Ferry interested in music.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 February 2013 16:09 (eleven years ago) link
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4051/4422250647_68a76a4a9d_o.jpg
― rocky dennis horror show (Pillbox), Wednesday, 13 February 2013 16:57 (eleven years ago) link
this band is so damn good
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 20 February 2013 20:55 (eleven years ago) link
"Better Off" at around 2:56 and a little onward is reminding me of the climax of Kate Bush "Big Sky." The inevitable Kate Bush comparison ("they are female artists, they sound like Kate Bush")--but no, this is specific.
― _Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 04:20 (eleven years ago) link
On "Falling"- producer Ariel Rechtshaid hit the Bushism's more squarely in his work with Glasser.
Haim seems to pick producers that submerge their Fleetwood Mac-ish live sound, leaving middle sister/lead singer Danielle's rushed syllables as the main idiosyncratic element.
Is she the gregarious/domineering one in the interviews? I predict a solo career.
― Sanpaku, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 05:29 (eleven years ago) link
I don't know about that. I do think their studio recordings would sound better if their core band sound were less submerged, though part of me is happy they want to go for a broader pop appeal and not stick to I'm not sure there's anything wrong with slick studio production and rougher edged, more rocking performances--a combination that I think has probably worked for other act. Whether it will work in this case, I don't know. Actually, I like the way the production works on Falling in particular. Whatever the song is in live performance, I think it works here as something pushing toward dance pop(again, a la some sort of Bryan Ferry solo sound, with an underpinning in traditional musicianship). I haven't really kept track of their producers (or probably producers in general!) and am unfamiliar with Rechtshaid.
I've been playing Forever and Don't Save Me a lot, probably overplaying them because they aren't holding up for me quite as well as I expected. On the other hand, Better Off has grown on me.
― _Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 16:29 (eleven years ago) link
love the video for 'falling'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIjVpRAXK18
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Tuesday, 26 February 2013 16:32 (eleven years ago) link
x-post: I've been really sick of music videos in general, lately, and I do think this one is pretty good.
(Oh yeah, Falling is also the song that has some other vocals that remind me of recent Bush, but I don't think that has anything to do with production. Again, it's fairly subtle, I think, it doesn't sound remotely like a Kate Bush song or anything. I think it's kind of cool to hear late Kate Bush already possibly being a source for a younger artist's sound (since I don't really know where the resemblance is coming from.)
― _Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 16:34 (eleven years ago) link
"Falling" is so good.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 February 2013 16:37 (eleven years ago) link
While I'm making comparisons, the main chorus on Send Me Down, sounds like it could be from a Solange song. (I think the song is just okay, though it has some nice moments I could eventually latch onto more.)
― _Rudipherous_, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 16:49 (eleven years ago) link
I prefer this remix of Send Me Down over the original:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwkUDrVYlAY
― MarkoP, Tuesday, 26 February 2013 16:54 (eleven years ago) link
I feel like HAIM has one trick but they do it really well
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 27 February 2013 03:14 (eleven years ago) link
really enjoying the 9 songs they have out (incl. one cover and two remixes)
― goole, Wednesday, 27 February 2013 04:48 (eleven years ago) link
What do you think that one trick is? I don't hear them that way and they seem like an odd band to single out for that sort of description.
― _Rudipherous_, Wednesday, 27 February 2013 15:57 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmOEKvcASB4
― MarkoP, Thursday, 28 March 2013 20:49 (eleven years ago) link
oh shit i thought it was hame not hime.
― goole, Thursday, 28 March 2013 20:55 (eleven years ago) link
ok can't watch this right now but nardwuar caps for their nardwuar interview <3<3<3
― cunnilingus ah um (The Reverend), Thursday, 28 March 2013 20:56 (eleven years ago) link
lol, so it's actually pronounced as in "if you go to tel aviv, you should meet my cousin, haim"
― i've a cozy little flat in what is known as old man hat (Hurting 2), Thursday, 28 March 2013 21:01 (eleven years ago) link
This is awesome, but also makes me think 13:36 is just about the right amount of time to hang around with them, lest you get worn out by sistery shenanigans.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 28 March 2013 21:53 (eleven years ago) link
psychemagik adds inspector norse style blissful squiggly bleeps to 'falling', to great effect imo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07W2o0rTOss
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Tuesday, 2 April 2013 20:46 (eleven years ago) link
new fan on Twitter
Rihanna @rihannaWhat y'all think about HAIM?
― piscesx, Thursday, 4 April 2013 01:35 (eleven years ago) link