Rolling 2006 US Charts Thread

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WNHT-FM Fort Wayne 96.3 FM (Rhythmic)
lw TW Artist Title TW lw +/- Reach/Mill
3 1 KELIS Bossy 120 120 0 0.1628
2 2 THE PACK Vans 120 121 -1 0.1593
1 3 CASSIE Me & U 117 124 -7 0.1555
8 4 JIBBS Chain Hang Low 109 63 46 0.1479
16 5 YUNG JOC It's Goin' Down 108 48 60 0.1453
9 6 NE-YO Sexy Love 95 62 33 0.1294
11 7 FERGIE London Bridge (Oh Snap) 88 59 29 0.1183
78 8 CIARA Get Up (f/ Chamillionaire) 86 3 83 0.118
4 9 NELLY FURTADO Promiscuous 72 116 -44 0.1027
10 10 YOUNG DRO Shoulder Lean f/TI 69 62 7 0.0985

Interestingly, this station is not only giving more plays to "Vans" than is any other rhythmic station that reports to Mediabase, it's giving more plays to "Bossy," "Me & U," and "London Bridge" as well. I wonder what's doing in Fort Wayne?

[Goes to Wikipedia]

Fort Wayne is a city in northeastern Indiana, USA and the county seat of Allen County. As of 2005, an estimated 248,341 lived in the city proper. The MSA has a population of 502,141, as of the 2004 update of the 2000 census. Nearly equidistant from Detroit, Michigan, Chicago, Illinois, and Cincinnati, Ohio, it has historically served as a transportation and communications center for the region, and an incubator for many products and companies, much more so than its size might suggest.

Fort Wayne is named after Gen. "Mad" Anthony Wayne....

There are 90,915 housing units at an average density of 444.6/km² (1,151.5/mi²). The racial makeup of the city is 75.45% White, 17.38% Black or African American, 0.39% Native American, 1.56% Asian, 0.04% Pacific Islander, 2.91% from other races, and 2.26% from two or more races. 5.78% of the population are Hispanic or Latino of any race.

Whiter than I'd have expected. Maybe it's got a lot of punks and sk8ers who are giving the Pack a lift. They got their Vans on but they look like sneakers. You're wearin coke whites but my Vans are cleaner.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 17 August 2006 19:36 (eighteen years ago) link

FORT WAYNE: The Town That Rock Forgot

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 17 August 2006 19:42 (eighteen years ago) link

Tons of midwest small towns are like that.

deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 17 August 2006 19:46 (eighteen years ago) link

'small' being relative obv

deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 17 August 2006 19:46 (eighteen years ago) link

Hah! Fort Wayne has two rhythmic stations that report to Mediabase and no top 40 stations, though maybe there are some top 40 stations in earshot. There is one "active rock" and one "alternative" station, however, and two "hot adult contemporary" stations, and two country stations, of course. And a Christian AC station as well. That exhausts the stations that report to Mediabase, though since Mediabase doesn't, for instance, gather data from reggaeton stations etc. that doesn't mean there isn't a lot more music on the Fort Wayne dial. Nickelback is high on one of the Hot AC stations and middling on the other Hot AC and the active rock, and not in the alternative top 50.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 17 August 2006 19:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Tons of midwest small towns are like that.

Yeah, but they're not playing the Pack, who are getting most of their biggest support in California and are doing very little in the Midwest. In fact, unless you count Charleston, West Virginia, and places like Oklahoma City and Tulsa as "Midwest," there's no other station in the Midwest that's giving them more than 20 spins (unless that station doesn't report to Mediabase). Compare to 120 spins in Fort Wayne.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 17 August 2006 20:03 (eighteen years ago) link

It's weird, though, that's it getting outperformed overall by 'About Us', which has made up the same amount of ground in about half the time. Is Hogan Knows Best really doing that well in America? I can't imagine it's doing that well on the strength of the song or the video...

Randy Orton's giving it the rub, baby! Randy Orton to save the US top 100! Next week: he shits in Rascal Flatts handbag.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 17 August 2006 20:19 (eighteen years ago) link

Top 10 Downloads

1 1 FERGIE LONDON BRIDGE 106320 -7 114249 306320
2 2 GNARLS BARKLEY CRAZY 86320 -2 87883 956664
5 3 PUSSYCAT DOLLS BUTTONS 59359 -3 61208 672693
3 4 FURTADO*NELLY PROMISCUOUS 59038 -11 66728 1238622
6 5 AGUILERA*CHRISTINA AIN'T NO OTHER MAN 47844 -7 51647 580729
8 6 CASSIE ME & U 46568 1 45880 581251
12 7 PAUL*SEAN GIVE IT UP TO ME 44186 30 33913 213140
10 8 PANIC! AT THE DISCO I WRITE SINS NOT TRAGEDIES 43037 6 40607 753557
7 9 SIMPSON*JESSICA PUBLIC AFFAIR 42248 -16 50208 248311
4 10 BEYONCE DEJA VU 41882 -37 66327 182858

The future of Rodney got a -- (R. J. Greene), Thursday, 17 August 2006 22:43 (eighteen years ago) link

And Kogan, Reggaeton stations do report to Mediabase.

1 1 TITO 'EL BAMBINO' Caele (Caile) 650 684 -34 6.734
2 2 RAKIM & KEN Y Down 630 683 -53 8.536
6 3 TOBY LOVE Tengo Un Amor(f/Raki... 599 507 92 7.433
4 4 DADDY YANKEE Machucando 543 540 3 4.716
3 5 DON OMAR Angelito 531 563 -32 5.171
5 6 CALLE 13 Atrevete Te, Te! 483 533 -50 3.914
9 7 CASSIE Me & U 482 441 41 3.741
11 8 TITO 'EL BAMBINO' Flow Natural (f/ Bee... 477 430 47 4.771
7 9 SHAKIRA F/WYCLEF JEAN Hips Don't Lie 466 452 14 2.958
12 10 DON OMAR Salio El Sol 434 406 28 5.400

The future of Rodney got a -- (R. J. Greene), Thursday, 17 August 2006 22:48 (eighteen years ago) link

Mana at #17 on Latin Urban. Aren't they a rock band?

The future of Rodney got a -- (R. J. Greene), Thursday, 17 August 2006 22:49 (eighteen years ago) link

rj you got a sensible ear - how's that fergie? is it all over radio? my car stereo died about three weeks back (honda accords got crazy bullshit re: the radio), i don't listen to fm at home. didn't that don papamowmow or whoever produce it? how's it compare to 'fallen'?

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 17 August 2006 22:55 (eighteen years ago) link

living in a *very* small midwest town i appreciate this thread. i can sometimes pick up the top 40 station in moorhead, but it has to compete w/an active rock from somewhere else.

normally when i do get to the big city i gorge myself on the top 40 and urban (can't remember the right billboard term for the station), but this last time the car i was borrowing had sirius and i flipped around on that. theres like 8 hip-hop stations w/no commercials and a lot of them play pretty good shit except the djs are really terrible and like to talk over the songs even while people are rapping.

consigliere (consigliere), Thursday, 17 August 2006 23:04 (eighteen years ago) link

oh and i LOVE that panic! song. its funny cause it kinda fits w/all the other prissy diva songs next to it and the part at the end is real pretty and makes me think of "party fears two". it could really only be better if they played less guitar (how far is the bridge between emo/pop-punk and post-punk/strokesy bands? the killers sometimes split the differences) and had cassie or someone on the chorus.

consigliere (consigliere), Thursday, 17 August 2006 23:08 (eighteen years ago) link

Just glanced at the iTunes store, and "SexyBack" is not available for download yet. My guess is that once it is, it'll jump up the charts.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 18 August 2006 05:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Going back to the Fort Wayne thing, this caught my eye: 4 JIBBS Chain Hang Low. Anybody heard this? It's getting a fair amount of play down here in NC. It's always amazing to me how stuff like this gets resonable air time. It seems like such a "listen to this funny thing during our morning show" kinda thing.

matt2 (matt2), Friday, 18 August 2006 16:22 (eighteen years ago) link

#39 on the Hot 100. I don't really mind it too much, the chorus is fairly catchy, the verses are easily ignorable. There are worse things in this world.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 18 August 2006 17:07 (eighteen years ago) link

It reminds me of kindergarten.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 18 August 2006 17:14 (eighteen years ago) link

It makes me happy to see Ne-Yo with another top 10 with "Sexy Love." It really does deserve to make it to #1, and I've felt that way since the first time I heard it. Also, the Janet and Nelly song really didn't hang aroung long. I didn't expect it to chart much above 50 upon hearing it initially, but after it got up to 24, I figured it might keep climbing or at least hang around for a while. Finally, someone said it already somewhere, but I really am suprised that "Why You Wanna" only made it up to 29, especially considering the success of "What You Know." It's always so fresh sounding when it comes on.

matt2 (matt2), Friday, 18 August 2006 17:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, fresh-sounding in the sense that it reminds me of 1991.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 18 August 2006 17:32 (eighteen years ago) link

Rodney, which station is that, and where do they broadcast from? When I go to the Mediabase Denver list, none of the Latin stations show up, so I'd assumed that that policy was general. Mediabase doesn't have an overall Latin chart, yet.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 18 August 2006 17:34 (eighteen years ago) link

I have found some Mediabase stations that play reggaeton tracks along with r&b and hip-hop, KZZA in Dallas, for instance.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 18 August 2006 17:40 (eighteen years ago) link

"Sexy Love" is lame, "When You're Mad" really seemed to get the shaft, did it even break into the top 20?

Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Friday, 18 August 2006 17:42 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, it went to #15, it looks like.

Both songs are all right. I really like the way the beat in "Sexy Love" has that drum-corps cadence that's been popular lately but really toned down and in the service of a slow jam. And "When You're Mad" has this one chord that kills me every time I hear it -- I think Ne-Yo in general takes cues from old-school R&B in song structure and chord progressions, which is nice to hear.

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 18 August 2006 17:53 (eighteen years ago) link

"Yeah, fresh-sounding in the sense that it reminds me of 1991."

Exactly, where else do you hear anything that reminds of 1991 house music on your standard hip-hop/r and b station any more. I'll take it any day.

And yes, the drums and the bass of "Sexy Love," along with the MJ vocals, are perfection.

matt2 (matt2), Friday, 18 August 2006 18:14 (eighteen years ago) link

(Maybe you have to pay for the Mediabase reggaeton charts. I can't find a way to them.)

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 18 August 2006 18:17 (eighteen years ago) link

along with the MJ vocals

Yeah, it actually sounds a little like "Human Nature"!

jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 18 August 2006 18:23 (eighteen years ago) link

Ah, just registered on All Access, didn't realize it was free:

Artist / Title / New Stations / New Spins
EVANESCENCE Call Me When You're Sober 15 283
JOJO Too Little Too Late 9 112
NICKELBACK Far Away 5 67
CHINGY Pullin' Me Back 5 52
NICK LACHEY I Can't Hate You Anymore 4 41
RIHANNA We Ride 1 28
LUDACRIS Money Maker (f/Pharrell) 1 28
TEDDY GEIGER These Walls 3 28
HEDLEY On My Own 3 27
THE PACK Vans 1 27
NE-YO Sexy Love 2 24
JIBBS Chain Hang Low 2 23
HINDER Lips Of An Angel 3 22
JESSE MCCARTNEY Right Where You Want Me 2 18
AFI Miss Murder 1 18
FRANKIE J That Girl 1 17
YOUNG DRO Shoulder Lean f/TI 2 17
RASCAL FLATTS What Hurts The Most 2 16
JOANNA Let It Slide 2 16
CODE RED Summer Jam 1 16

I'm guessing that by "new spins" they mean spins on stations that weren't playing the song previously.

I'm kinda meh on the Evanescence single; I like the lyrics, but it has neither the punch nor the beauty of "Bring Me to Life." It's good enough, but I think Flyleaf's "I'm So Sick" is this year's standard for the subgenre (whatever the subgenre is: angst-metal gothpop?).

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 18 August 2006 19:17 (eighteen years ago) link

I rather like 'Call Me When You're Sober', lots of lovely anguished vowel noises, plus it's nice to have a song with crunchy (though obviously not that crunchy) guitars that doesn't get you worried about when the singer's going to attempt to do their 'growling noise'. Hellooo, 'Diary Of Jane'.

I would also add that the video for CMWYS is such a piss-weak rip-off of 'Helena' that it does make me feel slightly sad. That horrible smirk Amy Lee has on her face as she's going down the staircase... urrgh.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 18 August 2006 19:21 (eighteen years ago) link

Oh, that "New Spins" chart was just for mainstream Top 40, not for all formats.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 18 August 2006 19:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Blood, have you heard "I'm So Sick"? It's not my absolute favorite Flyleaf track, but it's the best of their three singles.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 18 August 2006 19:29 (eighteen years ago) link

"Call Me When You're Sober" has also added 35 new stations with 472 new spins in alternative, 11 new stations with 158 new spins on hot adult contemporary, 10 new stations with 142 new spins on active rock, and 2 stations with 23 new spins on mainstream rock. Sure seems like a hit, doesn't it?

Now, doing a different chart, "Spincrease," on the rhythm charts "Vans" gained 182 plays more than it had before, and is being played on 67 stations; and in mainstream top 40 it gained 141 plays and is being played on 34 stations.

JoJo's "Too Little Too Late" is up by 1,005 spins and is being played on 106 mainstream top 40 stations; and it's up by 181 plays and is being played on 25 rhythmic stations.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 18 August 2006 19:52 (eighteen years ago) link

Kog - I think I must have done at some point, the name's definitely familiar - I think Abby may have pointed me towards them on Launch once. I've just seen their newest video, 'Fully Alive', and was humming along by the end. Launch has put together a tidy wee run actually - that, Plain White T's (I get the feeling I should be hating on that but actually... no), Lillix (who appear to be doing no numbers anywhere, which is a pity) and now the new Buckcherry single, which if nothing else is a massive improvement on 'Crazy Bitch' and actually manages to do something with the guitar noise off The Only Jet Song Anyone Is Ever Going To Have Heard Of.

That, however, is for another thread entirely, I would imagine, so to go scrambling back on topic - P Diddy ft. Nicole Scherzinger's "I Couldn't Give Two Shits What This Is Called, Honestly" is #50 on Hot R&B/Hip-Hop. TS: Scherzinger's "This Bad Boy, bitch" vs. Hogan's "You're all up in my grill".

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Friday, 18 August 2006 19:55 (eighteen years ago) link

Kogan, I got the Latin Urban chart from All Access. It's the composite for all Latin Urban stations, not a specific station.

Blount, the Fergie song is pretty good. Not quite "My Humps" (and if you hate "My Humps" and/or fun, take that with a grain of salt). The production sounds kinda halfway inbetween early 90's jazz-rap (I hate that term, but it conveys what I mean well) and "Hollaback Girl". Her vocals are copped straight from Missy. Couple great lines here and there. Only part that doesn't work is the bridge, which seems really shoehorned. Worth downloading.

By "Fallen", do you mean the Mya song? If so, I find it incredibly bland. (Along with most everything else Mya's done. I just find Mya bland.)

The future of Rodney got a -- (R. J. Greene), Saturday, 19 August 2006 09:11 (eighteen years ago) link

o come on even 'ghetto supastar'??? the 'fallen' i love may only be a remix i think - mya sounded great on it (i've liked her in the past though), even chingy sounded great on it. even chingy. i can very much imagine this guy working some rumplestiltskin on fergie too. re: 'my humps' - sweet fucking jesus - i really really like a black eyed peas song

j blount (papa la bas), Saturday, 19 August 2006 12:33 (eighteen years ago) link

"Chain Hang Low" literally makes my stomach hurt. I can't fathom what's drawing people to it. (Though same is true of Yung Joc, so set me up with one of those "Old Fart" fisherman's caps now, I guess.) When he performs this live, does he have a little children's chorus all adorned in pla'num to sing the refrain?

I haven't seen Gnarls' "Smiley Faces" on any charts yet; is it not out yet? I'll be really sad if that doesn't chart at all.

Lastly, "London Bridge" is the only hip-hop song I can think of that repeats an entire verse. Yet another accomplishment for "Ferg y Ferg" (nice one, WBS).

Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Saturday, 19 August 2006 19:20 (eighteen years ago) link

"Fallen (Zone 4 Remix)" w/ Chingy is incredible, but I love the original too.

"Chain Hang Low" is funny and allright.

"When You're Mad" was a great song.

I have one Mya album, the name of it escapes me but its pretty great, only a couple bad songs. It has a great song that samples "Out of my Head" by shuggie otis.

deej.. (deej..), Saturday, 19 August 2006 21:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Haha. I totally had my moment of "Fuckit, I'm tired of hating on the Peas" when I "My Humps" came out. And you're right, "Ghetto Supastar" is good. I may have to see if I can find the remix of "Fallen", but the original does nothing for me.

xpostness

The future of Rodney got a -- (R. J. Greene), Sunday, 20 August 2006 01:33 (eighteen years ago) link

'when "My Humps" came out'

The future of Rodney got a -- (R. J. Greene), Sunday, 20 August 2006 01:42 (eighteen years ago) link

Alright, the "Fallen" remix is much better, despite the presence of Chingy, the Great Satan himself. For what its worth, the Pharcyde's "Runnin'" has never done much for me either, even when I was in my rap nerd stage.

The future of Rodney got a -- (R. J. Greene), Sunday, 20 August 2006 01:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Yay slightly altered top 5 - Sean-eh and Cassie switch places at 4 and 6 respectively. Ciara slingshots up to 7 from 21.

Nickelback's "Canadians Have Feelings Too, Y'know" climbs to 11 from 23. Chingy is up to 16, and Danity Kane are new at 17 despite apparently not getting any radio play worth a stuff. "I Am Aware That You Are Seeing It" climbs three to debut in the top 20 at #19.

Evanescence are brand new at #25, just ahead of The Fabulous Bangor Boys. SexyBaaaack sets about making itself cosy at #31, just ahead of Jibbs, and Hinder clamber to #34 from #49 last week. In similarly tedious manner, Blue October go from 47 to 40. 'About Us' may not be the world beater I had been assuming, slumping to 44 from 33, and Chris Brown's 'Say Goodbye' climbs to 48 from 79.

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 24 August 2006 09:19 (eighteen years ago) link

That Sean Paul song is pretty fucking dull.

Rodn y Greene (R. J. Greene), Thursday, 24 August 2006 13:08 (eighteen years ago) link

I predict "SexyBack" shoots into the top 5 next week, much like "Deja Vu" did a #32 --> #4 jump. It just appeared on iTunes, and it's now the most-downloaded song.

jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 24 August 2006 13:45 (eighteen years ago) link

It's doing much better on airplay than Fergface is, so #1 is entirely possible.

Rodn y Greene (R. J. Greene), Thursday, 24 August 2006 16:10 (eighteen years ago) link

Only part that doesn't work is the bridge

Um...

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 24 August 2006 20:08 (eighteen years ago) link

Thought I'd let you know what's doing in my town (Arbitron ratings out today for Denver):

Station/Format/Owner/Sum 05/Fall 05/Win 06/Spr 06/M-J-J 06
KYGO Country Lincoln 6.9 6.0 5.9 6.6 6.7
KQKS Top 40/R Lincoln 5.2 4.7 5.8 5.6 5.5
KOA-A Talk Clear Channel 5.9 6.4 5.5 5.3 5.0
KBCO AAA Clear Channel 4.7 4.9 4.7 4.6 4.8
KXPK Regional Mexican Entravision 3.3 2.7 4.5 4.8 4.7
KOSI AC Entercom 5.1 6.0 5.1 4.4 4.4
KRFX Classic Rock Clear Channel 4.1 4.9 3.9 3.8 4.1
KXKL Oldies CBS Radio 5.3 4.1 3.9 4.2 3.8
KALC Modern AC Entercom 2.9 2.3 2.9 3.0 3.7
KBPI Active Rock Clear Channel 3.2 3.7 3.1 3.8 3.6
KHOW-A Talk Clear Channel 2.8 2.5 2.7 3.1 3.2
KJCD Smooth Jazz Lincoln 2.9 2.7 3.3 3.2 3.1
KTCL Alternative Clear Channel 3.1 3.2 2.8 2.6 2.6
KIMN Hot AC CBS Radio 2.8 2.7 3.2 2.4 2.5
KQMT Classic Rock Entercom 2.6 2.6 2.5 2.9 2.5
KWLI Country CBS Radio 2.4 0.0 1.6 2.6 2.0
KJAC Adult Hits Newspaper Radio 1.9 1.6 2.0 1.8 1.8
KEZW-A Adult Standards Entercom 2.1 2.8 2.2 2.3 1.7
KMGG Spanish Cont Clear Channel 1.8 2.2 2.0 1.8 1.7
KNUS-A Talk Salem 1.3 1.6 2.0 1.8 1.7
KCUV AAA NRC -- -- 0.8 1.3 1.4
KKFN-A Sports Lincoln 1.3 1.8 1.5 1.2 1.4
KJMN Spanish Cont Entravision 1.6 1.6 1.2 1.4 1.3
KKZN-A Talk Clear Channel 1.9 1.8 1.4 1.3 1.1

I'm really astonished at how far ahead of the pack the country station is. The second-place station, described here as Top 40/R (R for rhythmic), is hip-hop/r&b. Also surprised at how poorly the reggaeton station (KMGG) is doing in relation to the Regional Mexican, and how well Triple-A is doing.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 24 August 2006 20:46 (eighteen years ago) link

By contrast, the Dallas leader is the Mainstream Top 40 station, the Houston leader is Urban AC, Minneapolis is classic rock, Pittsburgh is rock, and Cincinnati is talk.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 24 August 2006 20:56 (eighteen years ago) link

Nationally, Cassie and Nelly F. are both in the Top 20 on Latin Urban stations. Switchfoot "Stars" is number 39 in Christian AC (neither Evanescence nor Flyleaf are on that one). Simply Red's "Holding Back the Years" is number 14 in smooth jazz. Evanscence is number 24 on Hot AC. Justin is number 14 rhythmic. The Pack are number 26 rhythmic and seem to have peaked. Flyleaf is number 16 active rock.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 24 August 2006 21:20 (eighteen years ago) link

And in the news you've been waiting to hear, JoJo's "Too Little Too Late" got 17 plays this week on Radio Disney, which is still pretty anemic, but is better than the one play it got last week. It's already in the top 15 on mainstream Top 40, having jumped an impressive 932 spins from 3,940 to 4,872.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Thursday, 24 August 2006 21:41 (eighteen years ago) link

Good. That song (JoJo) deserves to be huge. What I love about it is that isn't afraid to go for the HUGE ending. Pop songs nowadays are so restrained, it really is a breath of fresh air.

The Brainwasher (Twilight), Thursday, 24 August 2006 22:11 (eighteen years ago) link

"Too Little Too Late" is quite likable in its own right but its role on this thread is to further show that the only wonderful or even reasonably good* songs that Radio Disney is now playing (1) have a release date in 2005 or earlier or (2) broke big first on another format before Radio Disney was willing to pick up on them. Top 40 went big on "Too Little Too Late" before Disney would touch it.

So, either young people are going to pot or Disney has its head up its butt promoting in-house product to the neglect of actual good music.

*"Chemicals React" probably qualifies as "reasonably good" and hence is our one and only exception, but it's still not nearly as heart-meltingly beautiful or intense as "Rush," so I have difficulty remembering that it's any good at all.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Friday, 25 August 2006 06:02 (eighteen years ago) link


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