re: the "british sound" as mentioned above: stirmonster (v. occasional glaswegan ILM poster) once mentioned elsewhere [heavy paraphrase ahead] that he found the prettiness of BoC's music a sharp contrast to the dreadful starkness of the north coast of scotland.
― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 21 August 2003 16:14 (twenty years ago) link
― frenchbloke (frenchbloke), Thursday, 21 August 2003 16:36 (twenty years ago) link
Not in the north of Scotland though, just next to Edinburgh. The Pale Saints recorded some of their records near there.
― Keith Watson (kmw), Thursday, 21 August 2003 16:38 (twenty years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 21 August 2003 17:46 (twenty years ago) link
anyhow, classic, "geogaddi" included.
― amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 21 August 2003 17:55 (twenty years ago) link
in some ways i think much of their back catalogue is a bit tainted by the beats. as in, they seem unnecessarily leaden. they certainly date the records to a particular time period (its less apparent on geogaddi i guess). i like pretty much everything still, but the beats detract for me, or, at least, are the worst parts of most of their stuff
― charltonlido (gareth), Sunday, 10 April 2005 09:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― jermaine (jnoble), Sunday, 10 April 2005 09:36 (nineteen years ago) link
― dog latin (dog latin), Sunday, 10 April 2005 10:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― stevo (stevo), Sunday, 10 April 2005 10:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― dog latin (dog latin), Sunday, 10 April 2005 10:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Sunday, 10 April 2005 10:43 (nineteen years ago) link
― dog latin (dog latin), Sunday, 10 April 2005 10:50 (nineteen years ago) link
i can't think of many examples of tracks where the beat seems a real problem to be honest - anyone have any specific examples? it seems like a bit of a shot in the dark otherwise. i can think of many examples where the heaviness of beat compliments what else is going on - 'Whitewater' from 'Boc Maxima' for example - but i can see what is meant by the suggestion that more could've been done with the beats - they just come in and seem to trundle from A to B without varying much of the time, but somehow they manage to seem quite deft rather than leaden (Orange Romeda! Amo Bishop Roden!). it may just be the tempo of most BOC songs that makes the beats seem leaden rather than the sounds used to construct them (muffled, dirty, retro - to match the overall sound).
― $V£N! (blueski), Sunday, 10 April 2005 11:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― Orange, Sunday, 10 April 2005 11:27 (nineteen years ago) link
i think the drums on something like Mort Garson's Plantasia would have been a better approach
― charltonlido (gareth), Sunday, 10 April 2005 12:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― Yngwie AlmsteenMay (sgertz), Sunday, 10 April 2005 15:58 (nineteen years ago) link
i nearly always find the beats a welcome addition, and BOC always seem to have valued electronic rhythm to a fair extent and they tend to prefer it heavy. it's usually one of the last things to come in, which can give the impression the track has been built to support the beat rather than the other way round, no? which is an understandable criticism if true, only i don't hear it as a big problem myself - i don't think it would make a significant difference to how i hear BOC. 'ROYGBIV' seems as good an example as any of the beat being useful, if only for the bit where the bassdrum drops out again just for 4 bars - that's possibly the best bit, but it couldn't work without the beat beforehand.
how about Autechre or Biopshere? do their beats sound better because they're complex or 'modern', or 'lighter'?
what are the drums on 'Plantasia' like (hint)?
― $V£N! (blueski), Sunday, 10 April 2005 16:05 (nineteen years ago) link
It’s pretty coincidental; I listened to Music again last night and it didn’t work for me as well as it usually does. (I believe) I too felt the beats slightly lacking. But hey, some of my favourite moments are things happening to the beats. There is a wonderful bit in ‘Kid For Today’ where the heavier beat enters and plays two snares in a row (so that one is on the spot of a bass drum). And the lo-fi drums at the end of ‘Aquarius’. And the fantastic beat fucking in ‘Pete Standing Alone’. And the sonically beautiful drums in ‘Roygbiv’, ‘Turquoise Hexagon Sun’, ‘Last Walk Around Mirror Lake’... yeah, they’re not so bad after all.
― Orange, Sunday, 10 April 2005 16:49 (nineteen years ago) link
― $V£N! (blueski), Sunday, 10 April 2005 17:09 (nineteen years ago) link
― Hurting (Hurting), Sunday, 10 April 2005 17:17 (nineteen years ago) link
― f-a-b-o-l-o-u-s (adamwest), Sunday, 10 April 2005 20:56 (nineteen years ago) link
― jed_ (jed), Sunday, 10 April 2005 21:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― edd s hurt (ddduncan), Sunday, 10 April 2005 21:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― Hurting (Hurting), Sunday, 10 April 2005 22:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― Amon (eman), Sunday, 10 April 2005 22:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― joseph (joseph), Sunday, 10 April 2005 22:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 10 April 2005 23:18 (nineteen years ago) link
as for BoC, they're like one of those artist everyone Loves and is influenced by, but justifiably. I Love Boards Of Canada, and I don't care what anyone thinks.
― Tokyo Ghost Stories (Tokyo Ghost Stories), Monday, 11 April 2005 00:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Saturday, 25 June 2005 20:29 (eighteen years ago) link
But I'll say that some of their tunes stick in the head alarmingly well for 'ambient' music. Is there a reason I haven't gone and re-investigated them since? Yes, it's that I actually find their music a little creepy and disturbing.
― fandango (fandango), Saturday, 25 June 2005 21:27 (eighteen years ago) link
Yeah, this is one of the greatest things ever.
― sleep (sleep), Sunday, 26 June 2005 04:55 (eighteen years ago) link
― sleep (sleep), Sunday, 26 June 2005 04:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― fgjfgj, Sunday, 26 June 2005 08:07 (eighteen years ago) link
― oops (Oops), Sunday, 26 June 2005 08:18 (eighteen years ago) link
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Sunday, 26 June 2005 12:17 (eighteen years ago) link
― Taste the Blood of Scrovula (noodle vague), Sunday, 26 June 2005 13:19 (eighteen years ago) link
― nicholas de jong (nicholas de jong), Sunday, 26 June 2005 13:37 (eighteen years ago) link
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Sunday, 26 June 2005 16:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― original bgm, Sunday, 26 June 2005 16:32 (eighteen years ago) link
― original bgm, Sunday, 26 June 2005 16:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 10 August 2005 22:09 (eighteen years ago) link
anyone heard this Cardamar remix of ROYGBIV?
― blueski, Thursday, 13 December 2007 23:07 (sixteen years ago) link
nopeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
― stephen, Friday, 14 December 2007 06:41 (sixteen years ago) link
i think this is one of those bands that more than others, sometimes they are just EXACTLY WHAT YOU NEED
― Surmounter, Tuesday, 4 March 2008 14:52 (sixteen years ago) link
I need a new album from these guys
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 9 April 2010 15:11 (fourteen years ago) link
Classic. I'm pretty sure they're aware at this point how they keep rehashing their sound in every album since MHTRTC, and will probably pull something out of the park... being a little optimistic, but BoC just doesn't strike me as a band that doesn't care about it's legacy.
― kelpolaris, Friday, 9 April 2010 19:01 (fourteen years ago) link
Have you heard Walls on Kompakt? They don't sound the same but have a comparable aesthetic.
And, well, I like both of them.
They've got a ST album coming out soon and an amazing single out already called Burned Sienna.
http://www.myspace.com/wallsjams
― Doran, Friday, 9 April 2010 19:21 (fourteen years ago) link
Anyone know anything about "Chameleon"? Just popped up on iTunes, with the copyright listed as BoC's own Music70, not Warp...
― muus lääv? :D muus dut :( (Telephone thing), Friday, 29 October 2010 22:48 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIadksm7wjE
― i love you but i have chosen snarkness (Steve Shasta), Friday, 29 October 2010 22:53 (thirteen years ago) link
Uploaded: October 13, 2009
― i love you but i have chosen snarkness (Steve Shasta), Friday, 29 October 2010 22:54 (thirteen years ago) link
(sorry, I'm not a believer)
― StanM, Friday, 21 April 2023 16:41 (one year ago) link
There’s been discussion about the recording quality on the BoC forum. Posters who I assume are teenagers are speculating that if this is a 50 year old from Scotland that maybe he doesn’t have access to smart phones and can’t use technology. Which I laughed at but also cried a bit because I resemble that demographic. But it makes sense to me, he’s apparently said he was posting because people didn’t believe he had it. Posting in deliberately low quality helps back up his claim, but if it was a FLAC quality rip it would be all over the net and might open him up to WARP’s solicitors contacting him.
― I am using your worlds, Friday, 21 April 2023 16:53 (one year ago) link
then why not record 1 minute of each track in high quality? Anyway - I've been burned by hoaxes too often, it's safer to not believe :-)
― StanM, Friday, 21 April 2023 17:20 (one year ago) link
Iirc the only previously known snippets of this single/ep was “circle”, shared by BOC themselves.
If that one matches the snippet then it could be legit.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 21 April 2023 18:13 (one year ago) link
Here’s the snippethttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6s-LHQdQnsU
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Friday, 21 April 2023 18:14 (one year ago) link
as any medieval monk worth his salt will tell you, the secret to a good forgery is mixing in actual authentic stuff with the fakes
― brimstead, Friday, 21 April 2023 18:36 (one year ago) link
Turns out this was a fake after all. At least the people responsible didn’t drag it out too long
― I am using your worlds, Friday, 21 April 2023 20:08 (one year ago) link
yep
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiXfSh1tYP0
― StanM, Friday, 21 April 2023 20:52 (one year ago) link
I wish they'd just work with Warp and drop all this old material already and put these bootlegs and BS forgeries to rest finally.
― octobeard, Friday, 21 April 2023 22:01 (one year ago) link
gy!be did it with "all lights..." and it seems to have worked out pretty quietly, which I always understood to be what they wanted, so you never know, maybe one day.
― brain (krakow), Friday, 21 April 2023 22:14 (one year ago) link