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it still has apartment ads!!!

maura (maura), Thursday, 2 March 2006 19:41 (eighteen years ago) link

TWAIN 3000, yo

senseiDancer (sexyDancer), Thursday, 2 March 2006 19:41 (eighteen years ago) link

The AP story is unfair (or maybe just dense) to imply that the cheat-sheet story was anything other than transparently made-up. but if the voice was cool with that one, maybe that's why nick thought it would be OK to do something similar in the latest story.

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 2 March 2006 19:42 (eighteen years ago) link

serious, David Caruso at the AP, how can you go from King of New York to dissing an article that mentions blue-tooth wireless true false bras. That's like, sub Jade.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 2 March 2006 19:43 (eighteen years ago) link

that's a really funny article

s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 2 March 2006 19:45 (eighteen years ago) link

a Boston College junior named Simeon Criz who cheated using a specially designed deck of playing cards;

the method:


Criz recently designed a deck of playing cards that, instead of diamonds, spades, clubs, and hearts as suits, has A, B, C, D—all possible answer choices for a test.

"When the teacher comes up to me during a test and says, 'Hey, you're playing cards when you should be taking the test," I tell him to pick a card. Then he picks a card. A quarter of the time that card's got the right answer on it."

AP in non-possession of basic math skills shocker?

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 2 March 2006 19:45 (eighteen years ago) link

trife, where was that dem franchise boyz thing? i couldn't find it....

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 2 March 2006 19:49 (eighteen years ago) link

http://www.thephoenix.com/OnTheDownload/PermaLink.aspx?guid=29600206-8f44-44f5-b2ae-f016ce0d6f2c

Lie defector: Voice blogger accused of telling the truth

(This story was removed from online editions of the Boston Phoenix.)

Lie defector: Voice blogger accused of telling the truth

By Carly Carioli and Matt Ashare

The Village Voice yesterday suspended serial fabriactor Nick "Riff Raff" Sylvester, after it was revealed that elements of a cover story he wrote this week were actually true.

Allegations of truth in Sylvester's writing sent shockwaves through the blogosphere, where Sylvester, a former Harvard Lampoon staffer and Pitchforkmedia.com editor, was widely loved and loathed for his humorous "fictional" interviews with semi-famous musicians on his blog, "Riff Central." On the basis of these so-called "fake" interviews — and perhaps on the basis of an article or two in the pages of the Boston Phoenix — Sylvester was hired last year as the Voice’s chief music blogger, reprising his schtick under the heading "Riff Raff."

"I wish to apologize to the Voice's readers," Sylvester wrote in a tersely-worded statement published Wednesday on the newspaper's web site. "I invented only about one-third of this week's cover story — which was about how girls won't date some dudes I know because they've already heard all the pickup lines we stole from Neil Strauss's book The Game, which we all bought because we thought it was actually about G-Unit. The other two-thirds of the story were the product of factual reporting. I deeply regret this information."

In what might have been the day's most shocking revelation, Sylvester also admitted that all his past "fake" interviews had in fact been real. It turns out that the Hair Police song "Not Raft But Cage" really is the sound of "two gorillas . . . shitting into their own microphone." The Ying Yang twins really did almost change the words to "Wait (The Whisper Song)" from "Ay bitch, wait’ll you see my dick" to "Hey, where’d my dick go?" And both of Ariel Pink’s parents write for Desperate Housewives.

Several Voice colleagues who wished to remain anonymous hinted that there have been newsroom complaints in recent months that Sylvester was "coasting" — going to actual concerts, conducting verifiable interviews, and writing diligent criticism instead of making funny shit up like he was supposed to.

Indeed, it appears that Sylvester's slide down the slippery slope toward the truth in print began even before he arrived at the Voice. It was assumed by Phoenix editors that the "cult folk singer Vashti Bunyan" was a figment of Sylvester’s fertile satiric imagination. But this week the Phoenix's research department turned up disturbing evidence that not only is Bunyan a real person, but she actually came out of retirement to record with Animal Collective.

Sylvester's editors at the Voice were dumbfounded. "We thought we had a really talented liar on our hands," said Voice music editor Chuck Eddy, "but it turns out the kid just lucked out and had a funny chat with the Game."

"We used to say to ourselves, 'You just can't make stuff like this up,' " said Pazz and Jop grand poobah Robert Christgau. "Turns out we were right."

DOWNLOAD: AC/DC's "Riff Raff" at Buddyhead.

lovelylurrrker, Thursday, 2 March 2006 19:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Fall from grace or New Times turmoil fallout? You be the judge!

http://thephoenix.com/article_ektid4211.aspx

Edward III (edward iii), Thursday, 2 March 2006 19:54 (eighteen years ago) link

trife, where was that dem franchise boyz thing? i couldn't find it....
-- M@tt He1geson (matt@blah) March 2nd, 2006 2:49 PM.

http://www.villagevoice.com/blogs/riffraff/archives/2006/02/dem_franchize_b.php
the topper is the comments from folks like "I hate rap" egging him on.

Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Thursday, 2 March 2006 20:01 (eighteen years ago) link

One of the things you say in the song, gangsters don't dance--is that true you think?

Well, some gangstas don't. They just lean wit it, rock wit it. They might just set in one place, moving back and forth or moving side to side--or leaning and rocking.

It just seems like gangsters would want to dance. Like, you're a gangster--dance.

gear (gear), Thursday, 2 March 2006 20:04 (eighteen years ago) link

reassert that hierarchy, yo

gear (gear), Thursday, 2 March 2006 20:06 (eighteen years ago) link

he should have asked something along these lines:

I hate that we live in the shadow of "Lean Back." It's OK to dance guys: it's supposed to indicate how well you fuck. Why are you afraid of showing that?

ham'ron (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 2 March 2006 20:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Dance gangster monkey!

Edward III (edward iii), Thursday, 2 March 2006 20:08 (eighteen years ago) link

Thanks for going there, Ed.

Dan (Think Before You Post, People) Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 2 March 2006 20:12 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm suddenly reminded of a 1994 Snoop interview in Select that went something like this:

Select: What about the whole murder/gang/violence allegations surrounding you?

Snoop: That don't matter. Like if I pulled a gun on you right now, you'd be scared, right?

Select: Possibly.

Snoop: But if I dropped a rhyme right now, you'd love me?

Select: Perhaps.

Snoop: Do you wanna hear me bust a rhyme right now?

Select: No.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 2 March 2006 20:13 (eighteen years ago) link

xpost
margaritas all around.

Sterling (Yeah, Like You Always Do) Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 2 March 2006 20:14 (eighteen years ago) link

I can always be counted on to pierce the veil of sensible behavior.

But really, that's the subtext that upsetting people.

Edward III (edward iii), Thursday, 2 March 2006 20:14 (eighteen years ago) link

you think?

Sterling (No Shit!) Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 2 March 2006 20:14 (eighteen years ago) link

Sterling, shouldn't you be somewhere adding threads to your delete fantasy wishlist?

Edward III (edward iii), Thursday, 2 March 2006 20:18 (eighteen years ago) link

thx for the link alex.

now i get it.

that interview was bad.

M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Thursday, 2 March 2006 20:36 (eighteen years ago) link

that dem franchise boys link doesn't work for me, can someone cut & paste it?

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 2 March 2006 20:40 (eighteen years ago) link

do Harvard Lampoon folks typically end up in prominent press/writing gigs that don't involve comedy? it never really seemed to me like he was interested in writing much that wasn't satire or somehow tongue-in-cheek, although I never really thought he was that funny either (ok, we get it, Tony Yayo wears a bucket hat, etc). I'm less confused about the Voice holding him to serious journalistic standards than I am that the fake Riff Central interviews apparently convinced somebody that he should be able to interview people for real and be all kooky and "Kaufman-esque" about it. I don't know him and have a few mutual friends so I try not to pass judgement but in that context dude comes off like a dick for real.

Alex in Baltimore (Alex in Baltimore), Thursday, 2 March 2006 20:40 (eighteen years ago) link

To go along with the music, Dem Franchize Boyz have invented a dance, the "Lean Wit It, Rock Wit It" (video here), which also happens to be a song on their new album, On Top of Our Game. I got one of the Boyz on the phone yesterday to talk about the dance's popularity, and the future of snap.

I want to talk about the dance.

What's going on.

Just the dance.

What about it.

It's the best dance I've ever seen.

We're trendsetters.

Did this come to you in a dream?

No it came from the "White Tee" song. That's what we used to do around the neighborhood. I like to think I added a twist to it, came over the song and everything, and the rest is history. It is what it is.

That's awesome. But why lean wit it first and then rock wit it? Why not rock wit it first?

Because in the dance you lean first, then you rock wit it.

So you're saying it would look pretty funny if you rock first.

Yeah it would look funny if you rock first.

Who's the best at this dance?

Parlae outta the Franchize.

How about among your friends, who's the best?

Oh yeah! Friends, fans, celebrities, athletes, everybody's doing it their own sexy little way. Ain't no exact way to do it. You do it how you want.

Right, like if you want to rock wit it first.

Add your little flavor to it.

Jermaine Dupri is probably pretty bad at this dance.

Oh yeah! He got his own little flavor. That's what I'm trying to tell you. Parlae do it the best.

Do you think the Lean Wit It Rock Wit It is better than the Macarena?

I mean, yeah. You really got to get sweaty, but if you want to get sweaty, you can.

One of the things you say in the song, gangsters don't dance--is that true you think?

Well, some gangstas don't. They just lean wit it, rock wit it. They might just set in one place, moving back and forth or moving side to side--or leaning and rocking.

It just seems like gangsters would want to dance. Like, you're a gangster--dance. Do you have any dances in the works for gangsters?

It just came about. In "White Tee", we were leaning and rocking. Folks started catching on. So Parlae figured out: Name the dance and perfect it, and expose it to the world.

People are calling your dance the Electric Slide of the South.

It's something like that.

Other people are calling it Atlanta's hokey-pokey.

Atlanta's hokey-pokey.

Yeah.

I ain't gonna agree with no hokey-pokey.

Snap music is big now; what's the next snap?

What's the next snap?

Do you think people will start slapping each other on the butt?

Excuse me?

What's the next snap?

If it ain't broke don't fix it.

darin (darin), Thursday, 2 March 2006 20:44 (eighteen years ago) link

Two things that bother me.

1) Nick is now the effigy of the Village Voice for everyone who wants to take a shot at them. This has been picked up for national dailies via the AP.

2) In more Shattered Glass parallels, everyone wants to play the cool snoop role and dig up the huge conspiracy a la Caruso's AP story, which ends with:

In an August story about cheating on college campuses, Sylvester described interviewing a student who spent $500,000 to have a multiplication table tattooed over his entire body; a Harvard Medical School graduate who cheated with Morse code; a Boston College junior named Simeon Criz who cheated using a specially designed deck of playing cards; and a Manhattan doctor named Noam Feldstein who delivers "a hundred newborn babies each day."

Boston College said it had no record of a student named Simeon Criz. The board that licenses doctors in New York said it had no record of a physician named Noam Feldstein.

They're playing themselves in the movie of this in their minds.

Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Thursday, 2 March 2006 20:49 (eighteen years ago) link

xpost holy shit that interview is appalling

geoff (gcannon), Thursday, 2 March 2006 20:54 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't get the "satire," even in the obviously false story about student cheaters. It reads like an attempt to replicate the exact tone and modulations of a certain kind of breathless, know-it-all New York Magazine or NY Observer article. And I agree with some here that it is very very well done. But to what end? Isn't satire supposed to reveal something?

xpost: But who WOULDN'T want to be Peter Sarsgaard in that movie?? Even if he does look exactly like Chloe Sevigny.

One your 1), Chris, yes, that's what happens when you create situations out of whole cloth and run them as fact. Your publication's reputation takes a big fucking hit. This is about much more than NS now.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 2 March 2006 20:54 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah I dont give a shit about journalistic integrity but I'm really glad to hear some bitching about that interview. Somebody needs the living shit slapped out of em for sure.

reacher, Thursday, 2 March 2006 20:54 (eighteen years ago) link

It's aggrandizement at worst. People are using it as an excuse to run their mouths and flex their self-righteous muscles.

Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Thursday, 2 March 2006 20:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Isn't satire supposed to reveal something?

Well Nick's brand reveals that you can get all the way to senior associate editor being pretty much full of shit at all times.

Candicissima (candicissima), Thursday, 2 March 2006 20:58 (eighteen years ago) link

GIS return for "Nick Sylvester":
http://www.danlindblom.com/wp-images/warning.jpg

senseiDancer (sexyDancer), Thursday, 2 March 2006 21:00 (eighteen years ago) link

chris, do you think that people outside of the 'riff central'/'riff raff'/pitchfork fan demographic knew that those old stories weren't just another breathless trend story, but a parody of said breathless genre?

i mean, i wonder how journalists who did actual research for their stories feel about having their bylines held in the same esteem as the "obviously" fake stories. no matter how outre or unbelievable they seemed, those faux-satirical pieces have now cast a shadow on their reputations as well.

that said, my stomach did turn a bit when the e & p story showed up on drudge.

maura (maura), Thursday, 2 March 2006 21:01 (eighteen years ago) link

haha ilx regulars getting into circle jerky willful misreading flamewars is some compulsively ugly reading, but wow being tsk-tsked about "running their mouths" just made it all all right.

geoff (gcannon), Thursday, 2 March 2006 21:03 (eighteen years ago) link

"I don't know how I would have gotten through med school if it weren't for Morse code," says Dr. Conrad Boccuti, a recent Harvard Med grad whose real name has been changed so his patients don't sue him. Medical students are often under intense pressure; Morse code cheating is nearly essential, even after a degree is conferred. "Click click click, clap clap, long-clap—you see, I just told that man over there he has herpes."

If you can't tell this is satire, you probably shouldn't be, like, reading.

Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, 2 March 2006 21:04 (eighteen years ago) link

we always kiss and go out for gelato at the end

ham'ron (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 2 March 2006 21:04 (eighteen years ago) link

thanks eppy! way to miss my point. kisses to you too!

maura (maura), Thursday, 2 March 2006 21:05 (eighteen years ago) link

That's why I shouldn't post to this thread. That and the castration threats.

Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, 2 March 2006 21:07 (eighteen years ago) link

How do "real" musicians feel about "noise" musicians being reviewed side-by-side in the same magazine?

senseiDancer (sexyDancer), Thursday, 2 March 2006 21:08 (eighteen years ago) link

OK so how about "If people outside of the 'riff central'/'riff raff'/pitchfork fan demographic can't tell this is satire, people outside of the 'riff central'/'riff raff'/pitchfork fan demographic probably shouldn't be, like, reading."

Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, 2 March 2006 21:09 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm with ethan, I've never understood the mindset that sez "the only good interviewer is a TOUGH interviewer" (at least where music writing's concerned) - though mark s has interesting things to say on this subject w/r/t john lydon & possibly others

-- Thomas Tallis

was this on a thread here, or what? i'd love to read it. i've got an interview coming up (first non-review work! pat on the back) with a guy who i may disagree with on a lot of issues surrounding his work. i'm sure all the hardened pros can give a cub a tip or two (to make a thread worth a good goddam for once)

geoff (gcannon), Thursday, 2 March 2006 21:11 (eighteen years ago) link

chris ott, do you realize how naive you sound? it's a sizeable news story when village voice pulls a cover story and suspends the reporter. especially when the voice has been going through some pretty public problems. journalists are gonna be writing about it. people are gonna be "running their mouths" about it. i'd suggest you get used to the fact that there's going to be a fair bit of damage done by this one.

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 2 March 2006 21:12 (eighteen years ago) link

xxpost

Musicians, usually supplying entertainment instead of information, aren't held to a code of ethics and standards.

If they were then we would never have David Allen Coe.

Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Thursday, 2 March 2006 21:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Way to limit the audience of the Voice there, Eppy.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 2 March 2006 21:12 (eighteen years ago) link

I know, I'm going to get a letter of reprimand from circ.

Eppy (Eppy), Thursday, 2 March 2006 21:15 (eighteen years ago) link

Sylvester always had infinite boners for the likes of 3xc3pt3r and Gang Gang Dance, but I guess To Live and Shave in LA didn't make the cut


midi sanskrit (sanskrit), Thursday, 2 March 2006 21:15 (eighteen years ago) link

"I had no idea..."
http://www.djoflaeyjan.com/gamalt/owelles.jpg

senseiDancer (sexyDancer), Thursday, 2 March 2006 21:16 (eighteen years ago) link

roffle

midi sanskrit (sanskrit), Thursday, 2 March 2006 21:17 (eighteen years ago) link

Because one trainwreck deserves another:

MARISSA MARCHANT SIGHTED ON PROGRESSIVEHOUSE.COM!!!

Confounded (Confounded), Thursday, 2 March 2006 21:19 (eighteen years ago) link

i've got an interview coming up with a guy who i may disagree with on a lot of issues surrounding his work. i'm sure all the hardened pros can give a cub a tip or two (to make a thread worth a good goddam for once)

Good: "You know, some people might consider a song like that a little mysoginistic"

Bad: "Quite frankly, I think you're a fucking woman-hater and an total douchenozzle, Mr. Mayer!"

Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Thursday, 2 March 2006 21:20 (eighteen years ago) link

not exactly that clear-cut a situation but yeah thx

geoff (gcannon), Thursday, 2 March 2006 21:23 (eighteen years ago) link


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