Just catching up. Very distinctive images. My favourite song so far is "Who's That Girl," a bit of a surprise I would think.
― clemenza, Thursday, 7 March 2013 22:55 (eleven years ago) link
although I still maintain that her best 00s single is "What It Feels Like For a Girl"
― "Bellini." (DJP)
agree w/ this with the caveat that the album version is so much better than the video (and i guess single?) mix.
― some dude, Thursday, 7 March 2013 22:55 (eleven years ago) link
I love both, tbh
There is plenty of room in my life for both pensive guitar elegies and face-stomping monster trance
― "Bellini." (DJP), Thursday, 7 March 2013 22:57 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, I really don't have a favorite between the two. Remix definitely suits the amazing video better, but the album version is like curling up in a blanket.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 7 March 2013 23:01 (eleven years ago) link
i don't really pay attention to the song mix at all when i watch the "what it feels like for a girl" video, i'm too in awe of the visuals
― prolego, Thursday, 7 March 2013 23:02 (eleven years ago) link
don't get what's any good about the video tbh. vocal is just so much more well matched to the original track. i'm assuming it's still to come, though, we can debate it later i guess.
― some dude, Thursday, 7 March 2013 23:11 (eleven years ago) link
don't get what's any good about the video tbh.
If you don't by simply watching it, no amount of ILM convincing is going to get you there. But really... o_O
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 7 March 2013 23:12 (eleven years ago) link
Hey everyone! Just got here. So sad to be missing all the fun. Thread looks great so far. Love the pictures. Only two from my ballot for now, "Bedtime Story" my #8 and "Get Together" my #5.
― LeRooLeRoo, Thursday, 7 March 2013 23:17 (eleven years ago) link
i dunno maybe the video has a point or an idea that went over my head? on the surface it just seems like the kind of barely coherent, needlessly 'provocative' thing that i'd expect as the worst case scenario of a Madonna/Guy Ritchie collaboration.
― some dude, Thursday, 7 March 2013 23:21 (eleven years ago) link
Re. "Bedtime Story":
and after two consecutive top fives, one of which became her longest-running #1 ever, she thought she could release an "experimental" single and get it into the top forty.― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), jeudi 7 mars 2013 20:29 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), jeudi 7 mars 2013 20:29 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I thought she could too! If anybody could have it was her. She had done it with "Justify My Love" and "Erotica". I think it would've worked had it been the first single off the album.But radio play was never a garanty after Erotica and Sex.
― LeRooLeRoo, Thursday, 7 March 2013 23:26 (eleven years ago) link
It's really all in the details. She does most of the acting with her face. Plus the plates on the car, the water pistol, the french fries, the motel door, the tazer, the zippo, all that stuff. It was like the first video designed with animated gifs in mind.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 7 March 2013 23:37 (eleven years ago) link
did animated gifs even exist yet in 2001?
― some dude, Thursday, 7 March 2013 23:39 (eleven years ago) link
Not the way we think of them today.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 7 March 2013 23:40 (eleven years ago) link
haha. Didn't you have to play them in a media player, iirc?
― how's life, Thursday, 7 March 2013 23:40 (eleven years ago) link
they played in browsers they were just usually burning flames or a rotating logo or a death knight from warcraft 2 spinning around on his horse
― the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Thursday, 7 March 2013 23:43 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.animatedlighting.com/images/SpinningStar.gif
Animated gifs have been around since the earliest days of the internet. Video capture and compression made them what they are now.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 7 March 2013 23:44 (eleven years ago) link
more madonna wink <3
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzre74yeHb1qdpp3so1_250.gif
― prolego, Thursday, 7 March 2013 23:48 (eleven years ago) link
tho this gets me more
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1hfah9djz1r9rem3o1_500.gif
― prolego, Thursday, 7 March 2013 23:52 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, that's my favorite one.
― Johnny Fever, Thursday, 7 March 2013 23:53 (eleven years ago) link
this will probably come up when we do the video results but i really don't get how she could be so brilliant and enigmatic in her videos but then prove so hopeless on the big screen
i guess because in the latter she wasn't controlling her vision or something?
― prolego, Friday, 8 March 2013 00:04 (eleven years ago) link
I said it on the True Blue poll thread: how can she project so much avidity in the "Open Your Heart" video yet onscreen look the sort of vamp that Carol Burnett would parody?
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 March 2013 00:06 (eleven years ago) link
I'd like to think she was just not very good at choosing material, movie wise? Like she knows her way around her own music choices but I just think she could have been steered in a better direction
don't ask me what
though I still think Desperately Seeking Susan is great, i wouldn't fuck with that
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 8 March 2013 00:08 (eleven years ago) link
Madonna films I've seen:
Dick TracyTruth or DareA League of Their OwnFour RoomsGirl 6 (though I don't remember her)
Madonna films I've not seen:
All the others
Outside of Dick Tracy, which was cartoonish by design, I think she does okay-to-very well in movies. I guess I haven't seen the bad ones, though.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 8 March 2013 00:09 (eleven years ago) link
JF you should watch Desperately Seeking Susan this weekend
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 8 March 2013 00:13 (eleven years ago) link
oh yeah and League is unfuckwithable
I will.
Also, otfm.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 8 March 2013 00:14 (eleven years ago) link
:D
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 8 March 2013 00:18 (eleven years ago) link
JF you should watch Desperately Seeking Susan this weekend― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, March 7, 2013 7:13 PM (22 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, March 7, 2013 7:13 PM (22 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
^
― how's life, Friday, 8 March 2013 00:36 (eleven years ago) link
nothing i voted for so far unless i voted for power of goodbye im not sure, it might have been #21. i sortof expect at least 19 of my ballot to place, i was mad obvious. i dont see how you couldnt be. madonna is severely obvious, it is the best and worst thing about her.
― plax (ico), Friday, 8 March 2013 00:37 (eleven years ago) link
"Rain" seems like one of those tracks that was all over when it came out but has since completely disappeared from the radio or Muzak or any of that. It is one of my favorites
― ferreira rocher (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 7 March 2013 20:41 (Yesterday) Bookmark
yeah so true, the other day i was trying to think when i last heard it irl not of my own volition and idk probably like 1998 at the latest and quite possibly earlier
despite that (and never being too much of a madonna lifer beyond radio) i have still unconsciously sung raaaaaiiiinnnn quietly to myself most times it rained in the last 20 years
― r|t|c, Friday, 8 March 2013 00:46 (eleven years ago) link
Radio programmers probably felt a certain...relief when they got this straightforward track.
By the way, the songwriting credits are curious. Shep Pettibone is credited but I don't think him capable of the music. Unless Madonna had a ghostwriter I tend to credit her for its melody and structure.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 March 2013 00:51 (eleven years ago) link
I think Madonna is absolutely capable of plunking something out on a piano and collaborating with someone else to turn it into what it becomes. If she rode Shep hard to get to what she was hearing in her head, I think it's entirely possible.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 8 March 2013 00:53 (eleven years ago) link
PLEASE do not forget
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJfPgjR_czA
― your fretless ways (Eazy), Friday, 8 March 2013 01:09 (eleven years ago) link
"League" and "DSS" show that she is best not as an anchor/star but as a supporting player, and maybe even as a character actor.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 8 March 2013 02:34 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, she's fine in both of those. There's still the possibility that she'll turn up doing something good in a moody low-budget thing somewhere down the line. Just don't know what the right role would be. Something like Dietrich in Touch of Evil
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Friday, 8 March 2013 03:33 (eleven years ago) link
i refer you to the movie two posts prior. it didn't work out. she's ridiculously good in desperately seeking susan, which i highly recommend to anyone who hasn't seen it - great new york in the 80s flick, totally holds it own w/ the similar zeitgeist after hours and something wild. danceteria pops up in it and there's holy shit cameos galore (check it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desperately_Seeking_Susan)(see also: No Wave Cameos in 'Desperately Seeking Susan').
never saw who's that girl, it got horrible reviews and flopped quickly, but coati mundi as apparently the villain is tempting. the wikipedia page for that movie has a possible explanation for why madonna never managed the leap despite clearly being more suited for it than say prince: Madonna was ready to take direction for her part, relying on Foley to give her all the cues.[1] He, on the other hand, felt that in person, Madonna seemed to morph into a whole different body and self. He believed the process to be oddly elusive and commented that her persona morphing seemed to work most dramatically in Madonna's music videos.[1] "You'd think that that would be the perfect attribute to have for screen acting. But although she 'acts' very well sometimes, she doesn't push the right buttons at the right times over the course of the film. The failure of Shanghai Surprise had left its mark", said Foley.[1] Regarding her acting abilities, Foley stressed on the fact that Madonna was very uptight and into every detail, determined to have the correct portrayal. "That's probably why it wasn't so good. In Desperately Seeking Susan, when she didn't know what she was doing, she was being natural and at her best."[13]
― balls, Friday, 8 March 2013 07:45 (eleven years ago) link
glad I helped the Power of Goodbye and Keep It Together place. Physical Attraction is my favorite thing on the list so far, "quintessential early madonna to me, the little shimmery synth noise. could listen to it forever" otm
JF obviously doing a fantastic job with the images, congrats!
― g simmel, Friday, 8 March 2013 15:09 (eleven years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/CGzJVCX.jpg
35. "EROTICA" from Erotica (1992) [12 votes, 263 points]
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 8 March 2013 15:20 (eleven years ago) link
Happy to see all the Erotica songs placing, but getting worried that, "Deeper and Deeper" aside, it will get locked out of the top 20.
― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Friday, 8 March 2013 15:22 (eleven years ago) link
when i did an initial brainstorm this was one of the first names i put down but after listening again it didn't make the cut. feel like 'justify my love' does something similar much better to my ears. love the masters at work remixes tho.
― So: The Answers (or something), Friday, 8 March 2013 15:33 (eleven years ago) link
Considering how much I love the album, my years-long indifference to this one surprises me.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 March 2013 15:35 (eleven years ago) link
looking forward to the rest of this; it's been brilliant so far.
― piscesx, Friday, 8 March 2013 15:39 (eleven years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/5eFjd2Q.jpg
34. "DON'T TELL ME" from Music (2000) [15 votes, 284 points]
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 8 March 2013 15:42 (eleven years ago) link
i love how surprising these results are so far? maybe they were bound to be
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 8 March 2013 15:43 (eleven years ago) link
"Don't Tell Me" astonished me at the time - the second single was crazier than the first.
Heard the Tracy Young remixes at the gay clubs all the time.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 March 2013 15:43 (eleven years ago) link
feel like 'justify my love' does something similar much better to my ears
Absolutely. I voted for both, but Justify is so obviously the one with a touch of genius.
― Ismael Klata, Friday, 8 March 2013 15:50 (eleven years ago) link
I kinda wish they'd kept "Erotica" as the "You Thrill Me" demo.
― LeRooLeRoo, Friday, 8 March 2013 15:55 (eleven years ago) link
It has a beautiful melody and it would have sounded less similar to "Justify My Love".
― LeRooLeRoo, Friday, 8 March 2013 15:56 (eleven years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/jQnQW5c.jpg
33. "MATERIAL GIRL" from Like a Virgin (1984) [14 votes, 307 points, 1 first place vote]
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 8 March 2013 16:01 (eleven years ago) link
xp OTM. And it totally sums up the pained doomed queer romance angle of the album.
― prolego, Friday, 8 March 2013 16:03 (eleven years ago) link