Don't go for second best, baby. Put your ILM ARTIST POLL #31: MADONNA to the test.

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34. "DON'T TELL ME" from Music (2000) [15 votes, 284 points]

Johnny Fever, Friday, 8 March 2013 15:42 (eleven years ago) link

i love how surprising these results are so far? maybe they were bound to be

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 8 March 2013 15:43 (eleven years ago) link

"Don't Tell Me" astonished me at the time - the second single was crazier than the first.

Heard the Tracy Young remixes at the gay clubs all the time.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 March 2013 15:43 (eleven years ago) link

feel like 'justify my love' does something similar much better to my ears

Absolutely. I voted for both, but Justify is so obviously the one with a touch of genius.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 8 March 2013 15:50 (eleven years ago) link

I kinda wish they'd kept "Erotica" as the "You Thrill Me" demo.

LeRooLeRoo, Friday, 8 March 2013 15:55 (eleven years ago) link

It has a beautiful melody and it would have sounded less similar to "Justify My Love".

LeRooLeRoo, Friday, 8 March 2013 15:56 (eleven years ago) link

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33. "MATERIAL GIRL" from Like a Virgin (1984) [14 votes, 307 points, 1 first place vote]

Johnny Fever, Friday, 8 March 2013 16:01 (eleven years ago) link

xp OTM. And it totally sums up the pained doomed queer romance angle of the album.

prolego, Friday, 8 March 2013 16:03 (eleven years ago) link

lol at "Material Girl" being so low

"Bellini." (DJP), Friday, 8 March 2013 16:05 (eleven years ago) link

seems pretty high based on the comments in the voting thread. just missed my ballot.

So: The Answers (or something), Friday, 8 March 2013 16:06 (eleven years ago) link

yeah that's kinda where i expected it to be

"Don't Tell Me" too low imo

some dude, Friday, 8 March 2013 16:08 (eleven years ago) link

lol at "Material Girl" being so low

Ya I didn't vote for it but at least expected it to be in the top 15

ferreira rocher (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 8 March 2013 16:11 (eleven years ago) link

in my top 15. love the yelps, the pitch of her voice

Euler, Friday, 8 March 2013 16:12 (eleven years ago) link

regardless of the shit-talking on the other thread, you would expect the song whose title is most-often used to refer to Madonna in the press to place higher that the 30s

"Bellini." (DJP), Friday, 8 March 2013 16:13 (eleven years ago) link

fun karaoke number

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 March 2013 16:13 (eleven years ago) link

I guess "Where Life Begins" isn't going to place.

Euler, Friday, 8 March 2013 16:13 (eleven years ago) link

I have positive memories of the Material Girl video from my youth, but the song itself has aged pretty poorly. As was mentioned in the voting thread, it did more damage to her career in the short-term than was expected. What a horrible nickname to have to carry around..."material girl". But even the song itself is cornball, not in way that's just associated with it coming from 1984, but an ageless type of cornball. Given the opportunity to do things over, I imagine she'd have passed on this one.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 8 March 2013 16:14 (eleven years ago) link

"Don't Tell Me" deserves to place in a thread about songs written that earned some other struggling songwriter a pile of money.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 8 March 2013 16:14 (eleven years ago) link

Ah, not sure how I feel about Material Girl being so low. It too is touched by genius, but it's also hackwork (outstanding hackwork); it's iconic, but by reference more than originality; and while it's a Madonna, it's not the one she turned out to be. And it's a pop classic, but kinda squeaky.

I tied myself in knots over it, and finally I left it off.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 8 March 2013 16:14 (eleven years ago) link

I dunno if she suffered in the short term. In fact, it's a shrewd move! What better way to prepare the audience for your Serious Work ahead than by having ditties like "Material Girl" to rebel against?

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 March 2013 16:15 (eleven years ago) link

fun karaoke number

― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), vendredi 8 mars 2013 16:13 (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

LeRooLeRoo, Friday, 8 March 2013 16:16 (eleven years ago) link

I love Chic's performance on this and "Like a Virgin" tbh

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 March 2013 16:16 (eleven years ago) link

Good point. xp

Johnny Fever, Friday, 8 March 2013 16:16 (eleven years ago) link

and while it's a Madonna, it's not the one she turned out to be

otm

Johnny Fever, Friday, 8 March 2013 16:16 (eleven years ago) link

twenty five years later she finally accepted the moniker with a macy's clothing line under the name, and a put her name on a ton of products to support its truth - shoes, vodka, perfume and most horrifically the hard candy gyms

prolego, Friday, 8 March 2013 16:24 (eleven years ago) link

*also put her name

prolego, Friday, 8 March 2013 16:25 (eleven years ago) link

I don't think I'll ever be able to hear this song anymore without thinking about balls' story from the noms thread:

2) still fourth grade, talent show, i 'perform' 'material girl' by having a rabbit hand puppet lipsync the song while i stand in my suit, expressionless, lipsyncing the 'liv-ing in a material world' backing part.

how's life, Friday, 8 March 2013 16:25 (eleven years ago) link

I missed that story. HA!

Johnny Fever, Friday, 8 March 2013 16:26 (eleven years ago) link

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32. "MUSIC" from Music (2000) [16 votes, 309 points]

Johnny Fever, Friday, 8 March 2013 16:27 (eleven years ago) link

amazing

prolego, Friday, 8 March 2013 16:27 (eleven years ago) link

It's a pretty good, interesting track, less dated and vacant, and more tuneful, than I thought it might be; then I remembered the horrible Ali G video and never even considered voting for it.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 8 March 2013 16:29 (eleven years ago) link

"Don't Tell Me" too low imo

― some dude, Friday, March 8, 2013

sent my ballot in too late but this was my #1. based on totals so far it looks like the only difference that would have made would have been to place it ahead of Music at 32 so I'm afraid it wouldn't have changed much. hoping the same is true for my #2.

inste grammophon (rogermexico.), Friday, 8 March 2013 16:31 (eleven years ago) link

oh i would've been happy if "Don't" had just placed above "Music," that's the real injustice here

some dude, Friday, 8 March 2013 16:34 (eleven years ago) link

amazing

― prolego, Friday, March 8, 2013 1

^^ good album track

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 March 2013 16:37 (eleven years ago) link

"Music" is only 32?! What the fuck, people, have you even heard this song??

ferreira rocher (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 8 March 2013 16:38 (eleven years ago) link

This track is so BIG and MAXIMAL and EXPLOSIVE and multi-layered and fun!!

ferreira rocher (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 8 March 2013 16:39 (eleven years ago) link

"amazing" is what "beautiful stranger" should have sounded like the first time round

prolego, Friday, 8 March 2013 16:40 (eleven years ago) link

"Runaway Lover" is another good'un.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 March 2013 16:40 (eleven years ago) link

"Music" is only 32?! What the fuck, people, have you even heard this song??

yup, that's how it got to #32

"Bellini." (DJP), Friday, 8 March 2013 16:41 (eleven years ago) link

"Music" is the rare dumb song that succeeds as more than kitsch. It's weirdly cool despite all its not-cool stuff.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 8 March 2013 16:42 (eleven years ago) link

It's not heresy to suggest she might have 31 better songs, she's Madonna.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 8 March 2013 16:42 (eleven years ago) link

I mean I guess but idk "Music" to me is her most well-executed OTT mega dance floor banger and manages to transcend tacky kitsch

ferreira rocher (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 8 March 2013 16:44 (eleven years ago) link

when I was little I used to think that "music made the boys run free and the rebel"

ferreira rocher (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 8 March 2013 16:45 (eleven years ago) link

i'm sure its not rebel btw, isnt it "rabble," that makes way more sense right. i mean like "sense"

plax (ico), Friday, 8 March 2013 16:47 (eleven years ago) link

I think "Music" is fine but if I was just ranking Madonna singles, ignoring album tracks, I don't know if I'd put it much higher that #32

"Bellini." (DJP), Friday, 8 March 2013 16:47 (eleven years ago) link

wtf why can't I type today

"Bellini." (DJP), Friday, 8 March 2013 16:47 (eleven years ago) link

It certainly made fans of Madonna the club goddess relieved in 2000, and rode a wave of ROL good will.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 March 2013 16:48 (eleven years ago) link

tiarnan wouldn't it be such a clever and delightful use of syllepsis if it was actually "music makes the boys run free and rebel"?

ferreira rocher (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 8 March 2013 16:50 (eleven years ago) link

It's actually "music makes the bass referee in the treble"

ferreira rocher (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 8 March 2013 16:51 (eleven years ago) link

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31. "LIKE A VIRGIN" from Like a Virgin (1984) [17 votes, 334 points, 1 first place vote]

Johnny Fever, Friday, 8 March 2013 16:53 (eleven years ago) link


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