I like Goodbye Is The New Hello as an album title. But I'm uncertain that it is the title, even though that's Wikip's opinion. Soompi and a couple other sites say the title of the mini-album is Just Go. I'm meh on the new tracks. "Style" and "Masquerade" are the two songs I like a lot in their catalog, maybe 'cause they sound like cheesy American dance tracks from twenty years ago. KNS, the writers/producers of the single "Just Go," have written for Britney (e.g., the pretty good "Brave New Girl") and Gaga and Nick Carter, though haven't created any hits, or much that's sticking in my memory. Their own "Thug Love," on their MySpace page, has a nice low-key early-'00s r&b feel, as if they wanted to resurrect the aura of a Mya B-side.
― Frank Kogan, Saturday, 9 March 2013 14:19 (eleven years ago) link
I like both the two new Rania songs. They're simple enough in a good straightforward pop way. I take to the girls voices in the verses, especially the one who opens the song.
― abcfsk, Saturday, 9 March 2013 14:40 (eleven years ago) link
D-Unit song produced by Block B's Zico. I have that exact same alarm clock. Otherwise, meh.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Sunday, 10 March 2013 05:26 (eleven years ago) link
Meanwhile:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=O0QNZklmJB0
Sorry to post so much non-Kpop (non Idol pop) to the Kpop thread. This is visual like a Kpop song though.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Sunday, 10 March 2013 05:27 (eleven years ago) link
New GLAM. It sounds like a throwback to Kpop from 2011 kind of. Parts of it sound like Dara's "Kiss" and I can hear Hyuna and Hyeran (Brave Girls) in the rap. Feels a bit patched together, but I like it.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 04:33 (eleven years ago) link
At first glance these lyrics don't offer the wit of previous GLAM songs.
― abcfsk, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 06:02 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, they're pretty straightforward. The video is unimaginative too - and cheap - they must have blown the budget on "I Like That".
― hurricane weather (forapper), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 07:15 (eleven years ago) link
G.NA ft. Illhoon - Oops. I'm a sucker for this kind of You Are My Pet older-woman-younger-guy team up, and I think the rap parts keep it from being overly cutesy. But I really wonder why those "oops"es are in there - why not some less-coy "oh"s instead?
― hurricane weather (forapper), Thursday, 14 March 2013 18:21 (eleven years ago) link
new girl's day album!? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUtGJtyoIfg
― 乒乓, Friday, 15 March 2013 14:25 (eleven years ago) link
aaaand https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ok9MLMd7ccE
― 乒乓, Friday, 15 March 2013 14:37 (eleven years ago) link
super bummed I won't be able to see 2NE1 (with the Backstreet Boys! lol) play a free concert in my city this week - have a flight to catch the following morning :( :( :(
― Roz, Monday, 18 March 2013 11:58 (eleven years ago) link
one listen through the girl's day album and I really like it... then again 1. i'm a girls day stan and 2.) i'm love ott bubblegum pop
― 乒乓, Monday, 18 March 2013 16:53 (eleven years ago) link
pull an all nighter and sleep on the plane imo xp
really enjoying that girl's dayo
it made the will.i.am/2ne1 thing sound especially anemic
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 18 March 2013 17:51 (eleven years ago) link
yeah the 2ne1/will.i.am sounds more like a proof of concept than anything
― 乒乓, Monday, 18 March 2013 18:22 (eleven years ago) link
i would but it's just a one hour flight, and then straight to a conference after arrival. :/
I'm still trying to pretend will.i.am doesn't exist.
― Roz, Tuesday, 19 March 2013 03:54 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=rAUwimJaZKU
Short n sweet
― hurricane weather (forapper), Tuesday, 19 March 2013 10:32 (eleven years ago) link
i really like the elite gymnastics k-pop mix and want to hear more. what are the albums to hear? is it more of a singles genre?
― mimosa pudica (clouds), Tuesday, 19 March 2013 21:28 (eleven years ago) link
In some ways. "Mini-albums" / is a popular format, though. What did you particularly like on the mix?
― abcfsk, Tuesday, 19 March 2013 22:48 (eleven years ago) link
Mini albums / EPs
this is the tracklisting to that elite gymnastics mix I think?
kahi* – 돌아와나쁜너4MINUTE – 거울아거울아after school – SHAMPOOgirl's day – 잘해줘봐야IU – 미리 메리 크리스마스 (Featuring 천둥 Of MBLAQ)
*of after school fame
it's a lot of heavy k-pop hitters, you could probably spend a few hours on each of their wikipedia discographies and find lots of good stuff
yeah for me it's mostly a singles/EP/mini-albums genre
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 19 March 2013 23:43 (eleven years ago) link
i cut out all the j-pop from the listing btw
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 19 March 2013 23:44 (eleven years ago) link
currently re-obsessed with this after they included it on their lp https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWpl2CaCnVA
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 19 March 2013 23:48 (eleven years ago) link
@clouds, it's an EPs & mini-albums genre, but there are some strong albums too. It's very visual, so maybe the best place to look is on Youtube.
Some stuff that sounds like the elite gymnastics list:
2NE1 - To Anyone: happy-sad anthemic exercise music. Late-90s stadium rock / will.i.am / Bangladeshi beats (e.g. "Follow Me"). Sistar - So Cool. If you absolutely must have more 2NE1. Big Bang - Still Alive: like 2NE1 but more clubby, hedonistic, electronic, trend-chasing (LMFAOish), and insane. 4minute - their singles (Hot Issue, HuH, I My Me Mine, Love Tension, Mirror Mirror, Ready Go, Volume Up, Why): Japanese Italodisco / freestyle / poppy pop (but 4minute are style chameleons, really) B2ST - Fact or Fiction: like 4minute, but more introspective and sad-energized and rock-y After School - Playgirlz: melodies borrowed from stadium anthems ("Ya'll Ready for This?") and rewritten to sound more indie. They buy a lot of songs off Norwegian producers. This is a Japanese best-of album, so it's not technically K-pop.
Going a bit further afield into Korean folk sounds: T-ara - Absolute First Album: Britney Spears dirty club pop / trot (Korean traditional music genre that sounds like Eastern European folk music with a disco beat) T-ara - John Travolta Wannabe : More disco and trot and Max Martin, less Britney. Super Junior - the singles (Sorry Sorry, Rokkugo, Bonamana, Mr. Simple, Sexy Free & Single, Spy): trot / disco / wacky novelty songsLay.T - neo-trot (trot + disco). I'm not seeing their albums on wikipedia but they're a high-quality group.
Going more into Eurobeat/Japanese Italodisco sounds: SHINee - Lucifer: futuristic RnB with funky polyrhythms and tightly-produced harmonies / boyband concept album about obsession UKiss - Neverland: Eurotrash gutter-pop with pop-punk vocal harmonies / boyband self-loathing. Basically Emo Club Music, but filtered through Japan. Ukiss are a hit-and-miss but incredibly trashy even when they hit, so YMMV. Sweetune - a songwriting team, not a band. Sounds like Japanese anime soundtracks from the mid-90s that reflect the excesses of music production of the late-80s. More manic: Kara singles (Wanna, Step Up, Pandora) & Rainbow singles (A, Mach); more cheesy: Infinite singles (Be Mine, BTD, Paradise, The Chaser) & Boyfriend singles (Love Style, I Yah); more grown-up: Nine Muses singles (Figaro, News, Ticket, Dolls)
Going more old-school RnB and rap and soul:Big Bang - Remember: Justin Timberlake / K-rock / house beats / boyband concept album about group dysfunction Primary - Primary and the Messengers: throwback to jazzy, funky, early-90s RnB guest-featuring some of SK's most popular rappers. Lee Hi - First Love: more throwback jazzy RnB. Lee Hi is 16 but has a soulful, Adele-like voice. SK discovers audition shows and neo-soul. Miss A - their singles (Bad Girl Good Girl, Goodbye Baby, Touch, I Don't Need a Man): old-school soul with modern production touches. Per Frank Kogan, they are not strong singers and this lends vulnerability to what would otherwise be highly-polished and professional music.
And here's some decent EPs and mini-albums, in no particular order:
2NE1 - 2NE1 and 2NE1 2nd mini album. Produced by Teddy who works a lot with Big Bang as well. Teddy leans hard toward electronic, club, stadium anthem sounds. while co-writer Kush injects rock, reggae, and sadness/vulnerabilySistar19 - Gone Not Around Any Longer. If you absolutely must have more first-EP-era 2NE1. OneTwo - Walala lalale: I think this is Brave Brothers' (Sistar, Big Bang) most cohesive single release. Classic Kpop sounds + reggae + disco + aren't these guys too old to be idol singers? EXID - Hippity Hop, and their singles. Managed by Shinsadong Tiger who also works a lot with 4minute and B2STWonder Girls - Wonder Party. Bratty teen girl pop written by the Soulful JY Park (Miss A, Lee Hi)SPICA - Painkiller. Strong RnB vocalists with advanced production. EXO-K - Mama. More futuristic, experimental RnB with a debt to Michael Jackson and Rock from SM Entertainment (Super Junior, SHINee) BAP - Warrior. These guys are into Linkin Park and Tupac. If that's your thing, this is a pretty strong EP.
Add in Girls Generation and this is close to being a physical-album best-seller list from the last couple years.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 00:51 (eleven years ago) link
damn, that's a great post, thanks
― karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Wednesday, 20 March 2013 01:50 (eleven years ago) link
np!
― hurricane weather (forapper), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 02:55 (eleven years ago) link
4minute - top 9 Japanese singlesSuper Junior - top 10 songs as voted by fansUKiss - top 10 songs. Sonically, they are more like a girl-group (dance music + vocals processed in service of the song) Sweetune - introduction mix
And listening again, I think I'd rate After School Playgirlz, T-ara Absolute First Album, SHINee Lucifer, Sistar So Cool, Big Bang Still Alive, 2NE1 To Anyone, in that order, just in terms of album cohesiveness and flow.
Also Z:EA - Spectacular is an underrated but surprisingly strong album! (Here.)
― hurricane weather (forapper), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 04:16 (eleven years ago) link
yes! omg thank you!!
― mimosa pudica (clouds), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 13:34 (eleven years ago) link
forapper and abcfsk, do you find there're any significant differences between what labels will release in japan as opposed to what they'll release in korea
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 13:35 (eleven years ago) link
A+ posts forapper, as always <3 <3
I think I like Sweetune the cheesier they get lol, hadn't realized they did "Ticket" and "Dolls" too though! amazing songs.
― Roz, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 14:43 (eleven years ago) link
i'd say miss a's a class is a great album but it's mostly their first two years of singles anyway
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 16:04 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, the Japanese releases tend to be either full albums or collaborations with Japanese/European producers.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 18:06 (eleven years ago) link
New Infinite is a big ball of fun http://youtu.be/2C-dsCaFJzE
― abcfsk, Thursday, 21 March 2013 05:59 (eleven years ago) link
^ Speaking of Infinite and cheese-leaning songs
Speaking of SWEETUNE, sorry
haha yeah, that's super corny but so very Infinite/Sweetune.
As always, love the way they launch into the choruses - I can't always identify them as individual singers, but their vocals work incredibly well as a unit. kinda think it's why Sweetune saves the cheesiest songs for them too - they're the only group that wouldn't otherwise be overwhelmed by the opulent production.
― Roz, Thursday, 21 March 2013 15:16 (eleven years ago) link
:D
― hurricane weather (forapper), Thursday, 21 March 2013 23:37 (eleven years ago) link
So BoA's great <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5w7RJRMwN2E">I Did For Love</a> was written by and featured Sean Garrett, who is now producing <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5w7RJRMwN2E">his very own boyband</a>. Heh.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Saturday, 23 March 2013 04:27 (eleven years ago) link
I did NOT mean to hit submit on that, sorry everyone ;_;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFny8iYc9L8
― 乒乓, Saturday, 23 March 2013 11:46 (eleven years ago) link
have seen some good press on the mindless behavior album
― 乒乓, Saturday, 23 March 2013 11:47 (eleven years ago) link
That's the one! Thanks 乒乓.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Saturday, 23 March 2013 19:00 (eleven years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/oHXGG9J.jpg
― 乒乓, Saturday, 23 March 2013 23:24 (eleven years ago) link
― hurricane weather (forapper), Sunday, 24 March 2013 02:35 (eleven years ago) link
The other good song on Infinite's EP is about not wanting your gf to wear short skirts: eng sub.
― hurricane weather (forapper), Sunday, 24 March 2013 02:41 (eleven years ago) link
Oh but about Grimes, are there pictures of her with 2NE1 and SNSD too???
(http://actuallygrimes.tumblr.com/post/45979235032/i-was-about-to-cry-from-exhaustion-and-then-i)
― hurricane weather (forapper), Sunday, 24 March 2013 02:46 (eleven years ago) link
love that pic so much. wish I liked Grimes' music more, she's basically my imaginary best friend.
― Roz, Sunday, 24 March 2013 15:21 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKjjXCqVK5s
feels like an H.O.T. throwback ^_^
― 乒乓, Monday, 25 March 2013 12:15 (eleven years ago) link
OFFROAD - 'head banging' much more anemic than the title would suggest
― 乒乓, Monday, 25 March 2013 12:17 (eleven years ago) link
Oh god, we're officially in Spring. The pastel-colored flower boy stuff is going to continue for another three months.
;____;
(Said as someone who quite likes ZE:A)
― hurricane weather (forapper), Tuesday, 26 March 2013 00:40 (eleven years ago) link