i didn't vote open your heart as high as i should have
― plax (ico), Monday, 11 March 2013 21:48 (eleven years ago) link
same
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 11 March 2013 21:50 (eleven years ago) link
tracks:BorderlineLike A PrayerCherishExpress YourselfVogueTill Death Do Us PartDon’t Tell MeSecretWhat It Feels Like For A GirlWhite HeatInto The GroovePhysical AttractionWaitingMaterial GirlEverybodyLove SongHuman NatureOpen Your HeartDrowned World/Substitute For LoveDie Another Day
remixes:Express Yourself (Shep Pettibone video mix)
albums:Like A PrayerMadonnaBedtime StoryAmerican LifeTrue Blue
videos:Express YourselfCherishMaterial GirlSecretVogue
― some dude, Monday, 11 March 2013 21:56 (eleven years ago) link
Great poll/great rollout/great images, JF!
― g simmel, Monday, 11 March 2013 21:57 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i thought drowned world would place, i think it was my #2!!
― plax (ico), Monday, 11 March 2013 22:06 (eleven years ago) link
After yelling TOO LOW at "Dress You Up," I went back realized I didn't even vote for it. Can't believe it. Anyway, great poll, great pix!
Into the Groove - 40Like a Prayer - 36Take a Bow - 33Express Yourself - 30Open Your Heart - 28Crazy for You - 26Borderline - 25Ray of Light - 24Material Girl - 23Cherish - 22Deeper and Deeper - 21Secret - 20Frozen -19What It Feels Like for a Girl - 18Don't Tell Me - 17Lucky Star - 16Bedtime Story - 15Angel -14Live to Tell - 13Who's That Girl - 12
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Monday, 11 March 2013 22:13 (eleven years ago) link
Tracks
1. Borderline: 402. Live to Tell: 363. Deeper and Deeper: 334. Secret Garden: 305. Till Death Do Us Part: 286. Papa Don't Preach: 267. Crazy For You: 258. Cherish: 249. Erotica: 2310. Express Yourself: 2211. The Power of Good-bye: 2112. Open Your Heart: 2013. Oh Father: 1914. Like a Prayer: 1815. Ray of Light: 1716. Rescue Me: 1617. Love Song: 1518. Jimmy Jimmy: 1419. Waiting: 1320. I Love New York: 12
Albums
1. Like a Prayer2. True Blue3. Madonna4. Erotica5. Ray of Light
― Public Brooding Closet (cryptosicko), Monday, 11 March 2013 22:18 (eleven years ago) link
Great poll, fine with 'Into the Groove' as #1.
Lucky Star - 40Live to Tell - 36Oh Father - 33Into the Groove - 30What It Feels Like for a Girl - 28Cherish - 26Secret - 25Take a Bow - 24Swim - 23Crazy for You - 22Deeper and Deeper - 21Borderline - 20Angel - 19Sanctuary - 18Think of Me - 17Material Girl - 16Till Death Do Us Part - 15Burning Up - 14Human Nature - 13Open Your Heart - 12 Albums:1. Bedtime Stories2. Madonna3. Like a Prayer4. Ray of Light5. Music
After listening to it again I think Erotica should have been #5 on my albums ballot.
― Gavin, Leeds, Monday, 11 March 2013 22:34 (eleven years ago) link
I'm giving "Love Tried to Welcome Me" a critical listen right now because of the stanning earlier today and it's nice and all, but it's pretty stock as far as Babyface tunes go. Perhaps part of it's generational, because "Live to Tell" still falls on me like a ton of bricks where this seems like a feather carried on the wind, but I was 12 when "Live to Tell" came out and 20 when "Love Tried to Welcome Me" did and I'd already pretty much made up my mind about Babyface's lameness. If you were 12 and hadn't reached that conclusion, I guess you could reasonably favor this. Still, I have questions.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 11 March 2013 22:42 (eleven years ago) link
balls reminded me: were Madonna to die suddenly in the next year I'd weep as if my mother died.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 11 March 2013 22:43 (eleven years ago) link
xp lol it's not even Babyface! It's fake Babyface!
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 11 March 2013 22:44 (eleven years ago) link
disingenuous to suggest dave "jam" hall is fake babyface imo
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Monday, 11 March 2013 22:49 (eleven years ago) link
Perhaps he isn't, but that song is.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 11 March 2013 22:50 (eleven years ago) link
madonna can't die perish the thought
― horseshoe, Monday, 11 March 2013 23:31 (eleven years ago) link
she fucking better not
it was bad enough when Michael Jackson died, fuuuuuuuuuuck Madonna would wreck me
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 11 March 2013 23:33 (eleven years ago) link
you know, i haven't listened to ray of light since college, when i wore it out. i had kind of developed a retroactive embarrassment about that album because of all the dumb stuff that was written at the time about how madonna had finally turned demure and classy and learned how to sing, but i listened to it this afternoon because of this poll, and it's really lovely. it's a good thing i didn't have time to vote in this because i have no idea how i would have done it.
― horseshoe, Monday, 11 March 2013 23:34 (eleven years ago) link
yeah Ray Of Light has aged really nicely, I was afraid it would feel strange and dated
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 11 March 2013 23:35 (eleven years ago) link
she's gonna die another day guys, you heard her
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Monday, 11 March 2013 23:35 (eleven years ago) link
lol
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 11 March 2013 23:37 (eleven years ago) link
yr username makes me happy, lex
$10 check is in the mail :)
My ballot
Tracks1 Love Song 402 Bad Girl 36 3 White Heat 334 Angel 305 Til Death 286 Over and Over 267 True Blue 258 Open Your Heart 249 Burning Up 2310 Express Yourself 2211 Papa Don't Preach 2112 Crazy For You 2013 Lucky Star 1914 Like A Prayer 1815 Into The Groove 1716 La Isla Bonita 1617 Holiday 1518 Deeper And Deeper 1419 Like A Virgin 1320 Hung Up 12
Albums1 Erotica2 Like A Virgin3 True Blue4 Madonna5 Like A Prayer
Videos
1 Express Yourself2 Frozen3 Like a Virgin4 Deeper & Deeper5 Justify My Love
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 11 March 2013 23:49 (eleven years ago) link
Top 20 songs:
Deeper And Deeper - 40Borderline - 36Vogue - 33Music - 30Get Together - 28Crazy For You - 26Holiday - 25Bedtime Story - 24Like A Prayer - 23Into The Groove - 22Lucky Star - 21Sky Fits Heaven - 20Forbidden Love (from Confessions) - 19Angel - 18Secret - 17La Isla Bonita - 16Hung Up - 15Cherish - 14Ray Of Light - 13Skin - 12 Top 5 Albums:
Madonna - 10Ray Of Light - 8Confessions On A Dancefloor - 6Erotica - 4Like A Prayer - 2
Top 5 Videos:
Bedtime Story - 10Human Nature - 8Bad Girl - 6Vogue - 4Papa Don’t Preach - 2
― LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 12 March 2013 00:08 (eleven years ago) link
Hey, the album version of "Express Yourself" is different than the video version! This totally fucking rules!
― Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Tuesday, 12 March 2013 00:14 (eleven years ago) link
(sorry, first listen)
haha!
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 12 March 2013 00:17 (eleven years ago) link
I always forget about the album version, but I like it.
"Boy, this sure is a skillful Prince rip...HOLY SHIT, IT IS PRINCE!"
How did a Prince/Madonna collaboration not make the front page of every publication at the time? I don't ever remember hearing that this existed.
― Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Tuesday, 12 March 2013 00:22 (eleven years ago) link
i think it was maybe underwhelming at the time but listening to it recently i found it MUCH better than i remembered, certainly closer to matching the sum of its parts than say chuck d + sonic youth.
― balls, Tuesday, 12 March 2013 00:51 (eleven years ago) link
yeah Love Song is like the perfect musical venn diagram of Madge + Prince (at least for me, I adoooooore that song)
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 01:19 (eleven years ago) link
Tracks:1. Borderline2. Like a Prayer3. Vogue4. Open Your Heart5. Ray of Light6. Into the Groove7. Live To Tell8. Deeper and Deeper9. Oh Father10. Burning Up11. Beautiful Stranger12. Material Girl13. Swim14. Express Yourself15. Music16. Till Death Do Us Part17. Candy Perfume Girl18. Secret19. Sorry20. Papa Don't Preach Albums:1. Like a Prayer2. The Immaculate Collection3. Ray of Light4. Erotica5. Confessions On A Dancefloor Videos:1. Ray of Light2. Vogue3. Like a Prayer4. Material Girl5. Open Your Heart
― chris_coolidge, Tuesday, 12 March 2013 02:01 (eleven years ago) link
Amazing graphics, can't wait to read this thread in detail. My only comment I wanted to add now is that I still imagine Sleater-Kinney doing an amazing "Ray of Light" cover. Also, I've made the argument for "Borderline" as the best video ever, so if I'd voted in that category, I'd have chosen that. First West Coast breakdancers in a video? East L.A. locations? Madonna casually creating an icon before our eyes? Story and texture? Oh, and I'd choose the one that won for album. My ballot:
Into the Groove - 40Get Together - 36Hung Up - 33Borderline - 30Ray of Light - 28Deeper and Deeper - 26 (Glad this placed higher though, so maybe I should have bumped it up a notch.)Like a Prayer - 25Holiday - 24What It Feels Like for a Girl - 23Human Nature - 22Take a Bow - 21Beautiful Stranger - 20Love Profusion - 194 Minutes - 18I'm Addicted - 17Don't Tell Me - 16Material Girl - 15Secret Garden - 14Lucky Star - 13Papa Don't Preach - 12
― Pete Scholtes, Tuesday, 12 March 2013 02:18 (eleven years ago) link
this is the punk rock "Ray Of Light" that almost makes me like the song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaQ4bQmTILA
― some dude, Tuesday, 12 March 2013 02:19 (eleven years ago) link
I blame Tim F: his assertion that all ballots shd have two tracks from Erotica vs a number of ppl who have only heard two tracks from Erotica xxp
― Josh and D.A.M. (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 11 March 2013 16:12 (Yesterday) Permalink
Given "Justify My Love" isn't an Erotica track (and precedes it by two years) it appears that in fact you only know one track from that album. But blame me for whatever you like if it makes you feel better.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 12 March 2013 02:33 (eleven years ago) link
If and when Madonna actually dies, I hope her headstone just says "And you can dance."
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 02:38 (eleven years ago) link
o man carrie on verses, corin on chorus - man that would work.
― balls, Tuesday, 12 March 2013 02:42 (eleven years ago) link
So, by my count:
7Erotica
6MadonnaTrue BlueLike a Prayer
5None
4Like a VirginBedtime Stories
3Ray of LightMusic
2Who's That GirlConfessions on a Dance Floor
― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 02:59 (eleven years ago) link
Victory.
Sorry if this is hard to parse, but here are the full tracks results:
Into the Groove 6 48 1330Open Your Heart 2 44 1167Deeper and Deeper 8 42 1110Borderline 7 33 1009Live to Tell 5 35 970Like a Prayer 2 39 938Lucky Star 3 32 805Burning Up 3 29 756Holiday 3 30 753Vogue 2 29 697Crazy For You 1 31 670Ray of Light 1 26 615Papa Don't Preach 1 29 602Hung Up 1 26 600Justify My Love 26 567Dress You Up 1 24 553Human Nature 1 21 465Cherish 1 22 463Express Yourself 21 457Beautiful Stranger 1 17 435Oh Father 1 18 424Bad Girl 17 415Angel 18 409Take a Bow 20 403Frozen 18 381What It Feels Like For a Girl 19 378La Isla Bonita 1 18 367Secret 16 349Everybody 15 344Till Death Do Us Part 16 337Like a Virgin 1 17 334Music 16 309Material Girl 1 14 307Don't Tell Me 15 284Erotica 12 263Get Together 1 11 246True Blue 1 12 240Bedtime Story 13 238Rain 11 217Causing a Commotion 11 201Physical Attraction 10 195Who's That Girl 11 194Waiting 8 189Secret Garden 7 161White Heat 7 161Die Another Day 7 149Keep It Together 9 148The Power of Good-Bye 8 144I'll Remember 6 142Words 7 136This Used to Be My Playground 8 120Over and Over 6 119Love Song 1 6 117Sorry 7 115Think of Me 6 104Where's the Party 1 5 100Dear Jessie 5 96Thief of Hearts 4 93Skin 4 84Drowned World/Substitute for Love 4 82Sky Fits Heaven 4 82Nothing Really Matters 5 79Candy Perfume Girl 4 76Love Tried to Welcome Me 3 72Rescue Me 3 66Jump 4 64Swim 3 57Let It Will Be 3 56Jimmy Jimmy 3 54Fever 2 53Love Profusion 3 49Give Me All Your Luvin' 3 47Bye Bye Baby 2 43Shanti/Ashtangi 2 38Where Life Begins 2 37I Love New York 2 34American Life 1 334 Minutes 2 32Sanctuary 2 32Gambler 2 30He's a Man 2 29I Know It 2 29I'm Addicted 2 29Shoo-Bee-Doo 1 28Love Don't Live Here Anymore 1 26Future Lovers 1 25Hanky Panky 1 23To Have and Not to Hold 1 22Act of Contrition 1 21Inside of Me 1 21Little Star 1 20Forbidden Love (2005) 1 19How High 1 19Impressive Instant 1 19Miles Away 1 19Forbidden Love (1994) 1 18Paradise (Not For Me) 1 17Love Makes the World Go Round 1 16Sidewalk Talk 1 16Sooner or Later 1 15Hollywood 1 14Don't Cry For Me Argentina 1 13Nobody's Perfect 1 13Spotlight 1 13Gang Bang 1 12Gone 1 12
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 12 March 2013 03:02 (eleven years ago) link
1 vote for "Act of Contrition"?
1 vote for "Inside of Me"?
(3 votes for "Give Me All Your Luvin"?)
― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 03:05 (eleven years ago) link
nice to have a reminder that "4 Minutes" got the shaft
― some dude, Tuesday, 12 March 2013 03:06 (eleven years ago) link
look at that cluster of ray of light songs together, lol at hollywood bookended by sooner or later and don't cry for me argentina
― balls, Tuesday, 12 March 2013 03:08 (eleven years ago) link
The haters have this much correct at least: "Deeper & Deeper" is not an objectively-great universal pop song in the same way that "Into Your Groove" or even "Open Your Heart" is.
Each of those songs express a kind of will-to-completeness, a desire for perfect union in love or on the dancefloor which I think is the kind of experience that anyone open to pop music hopefully can relate to and embrace.
"Deeper & Deeper" exhibits those emotions, but they're almost overwhelmed by the competing-yet-complementary senses of shock and relief: this is possible and right. This is possible and right. It's not merely the shock of love, of lust, of captivation on the dancefloor, but the shock of all of those things against a backdrop of a life of self-denial and self-control, of telling yourself that these experiences were both impossible and wrong. It's about subjugation to the law of expectation, and emancipation from that law into a new form of subjugation to the law of desire. In that moment, a transformation that might pass by unnoticed to some observers nonetheless forms one of the crossroad points in your life, a threshold that once passed colours everything ahead and everything behind. I fell in love with "Deeper & Deeper" when I was 15 and I allowed myself to acknowledge my own desires at the same age, and I can pinpoint a second which this song encapsulates for me. And I fell in love when I was 18 and rediscovered the import of this song again.
It's not universal at all. But it's my number one favourite song ever.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 12 March 2013 03:27 (eleven years ago) link
PS. amazing work on this poll Johnny.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 12 March 2013 03:40 (eleven years ago) link
Indeed. "Word up" does not a collaboration make.
― Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Tuesday, 12 March 2013 04:19 (eleven years ago) link
Not enough depth here for a proper rollout outside of the top few, so here are your raw remix subpoll results:
Sorry (Man With Guitar Mix) 9 66Justify My Love (Beast Within Remix) 5 36Open Your Heart Extended Mix 5 28Burning Up 12" Mix 3 22La Isla Bonita (Revenge Rework) 3 22Bedtime Story (Orbital Mix) 3 16What It Feels Like For a Girl (Above & Beyond Remix) 2 16Over and Over (You Can Dance Remix) 2 10Erotica (William Orbit 12" Mix) 1 10Let It Will Be (Paper Faces Remix) 1 10Express Yourself (Shep Pettibone Video Mix) 1 10Music Sounds Better With You vs. Holiday (Stuntmasterz Mix) 1 10Hollywood (Stuart Price Mix) 1 10Ray of Light (Liquid Mix) 1 10Impressive Instant (Peter Rauhofer's Universal Club Mix) 1 10Hollywood (Jacques Lu Cont's Thin White Duck Mix) 2 8Sky Fits Heaven (Sasha's The Drug Fits Face Mix) 1 8Human Nature (Runway Club Mix) 1 8Erotica (Confessions Studio Extended Mix) 1 8Into the Groove (Extended Remix) 1 8Erotica/You Thrill Me (Confessions Tour Mix) 1 8I'll Remember (Guerilla Beach Mix) 1 8Don't Cry For Me Argentina (Miami Mix) 2 6Everybody (You Can Dance Extended Mix) 1 6Drowned World/Substitute For Love (BT and Sasha's Bucklodge Ashram Remix) 1 6Into the Groove (Dub Version) 1 6Keep It Together (Single Remix) 1 6Jump (Jacques Lu Cont Mix) 1 6Get Together (James Holden Remix) 1 4Nothing Really Matters (K&D Mix) 1 4Fever (Edit One with 12" Intro) 1 4Hung Up (Diplo Mix) 1 4Love Don't Live Here Anymore (Remix) 1 4Rain (Razor and Guido Rain Forest Mix) 1 4Secret (Junior's Luscious Club Mix) 1 4Justify My Love (Orbit 12" Mix) 1 4American Life (Felix Da Housecat's Devin Dazzle Radio Edit) 1 4Erotica (Masters at Work Remix) 1 2Ray of Light (Sasha Ultra Violet Mix) 1 2Erotica (Madonna's In My Jeep Mix) 1 2Vogue (The Shep Pettibone Integral Mix) 1 2La Isla Bonita (Extended Remix) 1 2Love Profusion (Ralphi Rosario House Vocal Mix) 1 2
― Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 12 March 2013 06:13 (eleven years ago) link
fantastic remix results // tim f otm re: deeper & deeper
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 08:08 (eleven years ago) link
Impressed by how deep the quality goes. You could have started the countdown at 70 and still had a strong line-up.
― Deafening silence (DL), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 11:57 (eleven years ago) link
who was the Hanky Panky voter?
― how's life, Tuesday, 12 March 2013 12:02 (eleven years ago) link
probably my dad
― the company of wome (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 12:06 (eleven years ago) link
Just played that Open Your Heart remix Alfred was championing. Wow.
― Deafening silence (DL), Tuesday, 12 March 2013 12:47 (eleven years ago) link