Assume Scott also prefers the original Temptation as well. Substance is great but does have flaws.
― brotherlovesdub, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 00:29 (eleven years ago) link
has to be said the Substance 'Sub Culture' is a wretched thing compared to t Low Life one.
I disagree with this so much. The original "Sub Culture" is one of the reasons why I can't listen to Low-Life
― Darth Icky (DJP), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 13:43 (eleven years ago) link
some of the Otis Redding fadeouts made me yell, like WAIT WAIT WAIT THERE'S A WHOLE OTHER PART OF THE SONG YOU'RE GONNA MISS noooooooooooooooooooo
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, March 12, 2013 7:34 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
haha OTM.
― Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 13:45 (eleven years ago) link
Always gotten the sense that once Dan decides he dislikes something he then goes into a cave somewhere and cuts up the bodies of small children with the song on loop for five hours just so he can preserve that negative reaction forever.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 13:49 (eleven years ago) link
loool
― Darth Icky (DJP), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 13:50 (eleven years ago) link
"gambler" was my huge (re)discovery of this poll. i had probably heard it at some point but not so much that i was familiar with it, if i was doing a ballot now it'd prob make it.
(i could only find the extended dance mix, i assume the original is not hugely different?)
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 13:55 (eleven years ago) link
I can't help killing these kids,I go deeper and deeper the more kids I kill.
― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 14:13 (eleven years ago) link
My knife sinks deeper and deeper the harder I stab
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 14:14 (eleven years ago) link
Daddy couldn't be more wrong
― Tim F, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 14:14 (eleven years ago) link
I don't completely hate "Deeper and Deeper" as a song, I just really dislike the production choices aside from the one element Madonna insisted be there.
Shep Pettibone is a menace.
― Darth Icky (DJP), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 14:18 (eleven years ago) link
Not gonna let Shep get away.
― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 14:41 (eleven years ago) link
what's "shep" even short for?
― So: The Answers (or something), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 15:04 (eleven years ago) link
Sheptacular
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 15:04 (eleven years ago) link
otm
― So: The Answers (or something), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 15:06 (eleven years ago) link
apparently "Robert"
― Darth Icky (DJP), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 15:11 (eleven years ago) link
― Darth Icky (DJP), Wednesday, March 13, 2013 10:18 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I have to agree with Dan here. It's a great song! But it's not sheet music. It comes to my ears as sound and the sound of it is a wan hell of the wateriest, weakest aspects of digital synthesis. It sounds like its been copied on a mid-90s color photocopier ten times.
― multi instru mentat list (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 15:34 (eleven years ago) link
And I think a lot of Erotica sounds great.
i feel like the end of "Deeper And Deeper" is taunting me, like "yes, I placed higher than 'Vogue' but here's a reminder of how much better a song that is!"
― some dude, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 15:58 (eleven years ago) link
I just don't like people telling me to "come on" anything.
― toulows-lautrec (how's life), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 15:59 (eleven years ago) link
i dunno, i followed the instructions of "Come On Eileen" and was pretty happy with the results
― some dude, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 16:01 (eleven years ago) link
unless it's a husband, wife, or Quiet Riot.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 16:01 (eleven years ago) link
I like how Shep basically took all of the things that made "Vogue" worked and then beat them into a bloody, misshapen pulp, almost like he was parodying himself
― Darth Icky (DJP), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 16:01 (eleven years ago) link
was he one of main innovators of that pumped up robotic dance sound of the C+C Music Factory era or did it all kind of just happen without too much influence from any one individual?
― some dude, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 16:03 (eleven years ago) link
see also "get to it"
― toulows-lautrec (how's life), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 16:04 (eleven years ago) link
He was one of the main players at the time; I don't know if I would necessarily call him an innovator of that sound just because I don't know the trajectories of all of the producers of that era. He definitely was one of the first "multiple remixes on the single" people.
― Darth Icky (DJP), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 16:06 (eleven years ago) link
I mean, C+C themselves were produced by C+C: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clivill%C3%A9s_and_Cole_production_discography
― Darth Icky (DJP), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 16:07 (eleven years ago) link
before Madonna he was known for New Order-Pet Shop Boys remixes
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 16:09 (eleven years ago) link
C+C were definite innovators! shep not so much.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 16:14 (eleven years ago) link
Steve "Silk" Hurley above all.
― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 16:14 (eleven years ago) link
why do all these guys have dumb nicknames
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 16:17 (eleven years ago) link
you mean dance producers or everyone on ilx
― some dude, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 16:18 (eleven years ago) link
Mutt Petitbone
― multi instru mentat list (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 16:19 (eleven years ago) link
everyone on ilx, you in particular :P
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 16:19 (eleven years ago) link
xpost
i mean there are a ton of new york dance people i would have liked madonna to work with other than shep but its obvious that she liked him and liked working with him so there you go. it worked for THEM. and her. she felt comfortable with him.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 16:20 (eleven years ago) link
the big problem I have with Shep is that he is Satan
― Darth Icky (DJP), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 16:22 (eleven years ago) link
lol
― surm, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 16:23 (eleven years ago) link
i love so much of what C+C did in the 80's it isn't even funny. and it should be noted that they - as new york guys - produced the greatest track on one of the earliest and most influential albums devoted to the chicago house sound.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 16:24 (eleven years ago) link
C+C in the 80s POX, pls?
― multi instru mentat list (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 16:25 (eleven years ago) link
fab remix of Natalie Cole's "Pink Cadillac" and love "Just a Touch" and Aretha's "A Deeper Love."
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 16:38 (eleven years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0k2d6ZEzpdI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUg6ATxY2Ks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFBwYam4-Q8
― scott seward, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 16:43 (eleven years ago) link
The unnamed secret track on Gonna Make You Sweat is all-time awesome
― Darth Icky (DJP), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 16:43 (eleven years ago) link
oh don't get me started i gotta go clean rekkerds!!
brat pack 12 inch is one of my favorite things on earth. that's them and omar santana and others. original do it properly obviously one of the ur-texts of nyc latin house/freestyle and a work of genius. but they really did so much. before their genius chicago/euro formula took them to the top.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 16:47 (eleven years ago) link
well, genius in the sense that they took an already distilled and perfected formula and made it into some sort of international juggernaut of inescapability. there is a genius to that.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 16:48 (eleven years ago) link
they introduced the masses to house music and belgian new beat anyway. even if people grew weary of the jock jam aspects.
― scott seward, Wednesday, 13 March 2013 16:49 (eleven years ago) link
Suffice it to say, I'm on the Shep end of this particular spectrum.
― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 16:49 (eleven years ago) link
"Just a Touch of Love" is a monster, though.
― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 16:50 (eleven years ago) link
^^^ best of the singles
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 16:50 (eleven years ago) link
oh man: forgot Seduction.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 16:51 (eleven years ago) link
C+C's masterpiece:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zxcU4Yxj-w
― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Wednesday, 13 March 2013 16:51 (eleven years ago) link