NE-YO v THE DREAM

btw i'm starting a favorite song poll cuz i love this album and ilm is real boring today

someone revived a swan lake thread

you know, i find it really weird that this dude hasn't had a really big hit yet (and his profile barely exists in the uk).

haha i was just about to post that video and say something about him taking the shades off being NAGL.

i know right, the O_O to o_o metamorphosis makes his eyes look weird and piggy.

not keen on the video - some of the dance moves are good but the lighting sucks and the split screen effect is lame. but the song is just HUGE, love it so much. i also really really love 'let me see the booty' and 'stripper love' and the mariah one now. so yeah, hugely hyped for the album, though hoping it's not one of those deals where it arrives and i realise i've heard it all already.

also, i haven't heard the explicit version of 'rockin that thang', but i really cannot imagine the chorus going "rockin that shit"

weird cuz i heard "rockin that shit" before "rockin that thang" and now the latter sounds off to me but i deleted "shawty is da shit" off of my itunes because it sounded so wrong after "shawty is a ten"

I agree with Lex, an explicit version of "Rockin That Thing" seems like a bad idea.

But I prefer "Shawty Is Da Shit"...

Maybe it's mostly what you heard first.

i prefer 'shawty is da shit', definitely

also i think i have the clean version of 'stripper love' cuz he sings "tipper love" on the chorus

I'm much more excited for Electrik Red's How To Be A Lady than I am for Love vs. Money. The Electrik Red album sounds a lot more adventurous.... I'm not really feeling "My Love", I mean it's alright but.... whatever.

explicit "shawty" at least rhymes.

weird cuz i heard "rockin that shit" before "rockin that thang" and now the latter sounds off to me but i deleted "shawty is da shit" off of my itunes because it sounded so wrong after "shawty is a ten"

― happy house of representatives (J0rdan S.)

haha yeah i'm in the 'ten' camp too
tim f otm, i heard the clean version at a party for the first time. it supplanted "throw some Ds" with my friends and i, w/r/t overused hip hop phrases

and yeah i think same here re: Elektrik Red, I think he writes for female singers better than for guys (or himself).

electrik red is going to be great too - although i'm kind of wary of them all being really muscular "we fuck you"/"ditch that" style 'Bangers'.

TS ne-yo- vs the dream-penned beyonce songs

the outro of "we fuck you" is insane tho

I really love this new song he wrote for Mario though, "Boom In It":

I wouldn't mind an entire Mario/Dream album...

i heard something about an entire kanye/dream album in the works, not sure whether i imagined it or not

ya it's supposedly called Love King and is supposedly coming out this year, which, you know

Yeah I heard that. Hopefully that doesn't happen.

electrik red is going to be great too - although i'm kind of wary of them all being really muscular "we fuck you"/"ditch that" style 'Bangers'.

― happy house of representatives (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, February 11, 2009 10:05 PM (5 minutes ago)

I dunno, the stuff that leaked is pretty varied... I don't think "So Good" is a 'banger' per se.

talking of electrik red, does anyone have any listenable mp3s of 'freaky freaky' and 'friend lover'? mine say they're 320 but they sound like total ass.

btw i'm feeling that mario tune.

shawty is the shit is better

because the 'shawty is the sh-sh-sh-sh-sugar honey ice tea' line doesnt work without it

the edited version without fabolous is the best one.

I completely ignored "Shawty Is a Ten" until I got into the album so I'm more used to hearing it as "Shawty Is the Shit".

I'm gonna risk sounding like and idiot and ask what he means by "you should tip her" in Shawty is the Shit. I'm assuming he just means don't let her get away or something... probably a phrase that makes more sense if you hit up the strip clubs often.

http://ruletheweb.co.uk/b3ta/bus/VQKNNRQL/I%20AM%20OFTEN%20PLEASED/BY%20RAKIM/AND%20DE%20LA%20SOUL/bus.jpg

that

oops haha

its kind of weird conglomeration of standard putting-the-girl-on-a-pedestal shit crossed with strip club track that i kind of chalk up to the-dream's process of obviously writing his lyrics somewhat improvisationally

I hate when I fail to copy something and it just pastes the last thing on my clipboard. Was supposed to say:

probably a phrase that makes more sense if you hit up the strip clubs often.

^^^that

(not that I do so myself)

I hate when I fail to copy something and it just pastes the last thing on my clipboard. Was supposed to say:

probably a phrase that makes more sense if you hit up the strip clubs often.

^^^that

(not that I do so myself)

― i and i overstand ilx bomboclaat formatting n ting (The Reverend)

interestingly enough the pic kinda made sense... kind of.

Just really noticed these lines from "Falsetto" today. Love 'em.

I wasn't gonna show you up
But then you got that liquor in you
Calling last night a fluke
Acting like you didn't remember

the rap on dude as a bad lyricist was always insane to me

The thing is he does lots of things that can read as lazy or crass, most of which are more immediately apparent than the really brilliant stuff.

i dont think hes a bad lyricist, hes just not a polished one

Yeah, he sort of swings between inspired and lazy. Opposite of Ne-Yo, whose lyrics always feel really honed.

yeah, both otm

When Ne-Yo has lyric problems it's because he tries to polish the occasional turd.

shawty rock 2 da beat 4 ya boy

dream has written just as many good songs as neyo has for others but his own album is a bit shit and seems like yet another terrible attempt to lift hip hop lyrics directly over to R&B songs that have no place being there. hes trying too hard to be thugged out etc etc and still be melodic (theres a lot of potentially good material here but he always tends to drag the tone down somehow). plus, hes called 'the dream' which is hard not to laugh at.

titchysuggestBn51

^^ lame zing for someone whose username is "yellow carded," also setting aside his value judgement that post is absolutely correct

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_q0cWAQxiVKI/SZYqJzzxaYI/AAAAAAAAIVY/V4GbEUQIb7c/s320/the-dream-lovevs.money.jpg

Al think about 1. Who you are agreeing with here and 2. How ridiculous the notion that an r and b singer named 'the dream' is trying to act thugged out is.

is it out there brainwasher?

nope, I just thought I'd post the album cover

ah ok. google led me to a couple of torrent sites that apparently have it but i'm not a torrent guy

lol deej c'mon, the-dream has very obviously patterned himself after the r. kelly R&B thug archetype, even if stuff like his high voice and the more sensitive songs kind of take it in a different direction.

i'm not sure what's going on with that cover. i feel like the title should be "ice cream headache."

font is dope

xp: That's why titchy's criticism is so ridiculous. R&B thug lyrics have been ubiquitous and even a genre standard in some areas since at least the mid-late 90s.

i dont really agree that hes going for that archetype at all! or maybe he is but hes failing, if anything the rap references to soulja boy or whatever come off as 'music nerd/studio rat/trying to sell' rather than 'trying to act hard.' i mean his whole steez is steeped in this 'i am an of-the-industry songwriter' thing where kells was just, like, perving.