I can probably guess who.
― they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 25 April 2013 10:29 (eleven years ago) link
https://twitter.com/Spinner/status/327858136218206208https://twitter.com/Spinner/status/327858952425574401
― markers, Friday, 26 April 2013 19:02 (eleven years ago) link
what was it?
― Chuck E was a hero to most (s.clover), Friday, 26 April 2013 19:08 (eleven years ago) link
(tweets gone now)
aol shut down spinner effective today
― J0rdan S., Friday, 26 April 2013 19:08 (eleven years ago) link
And AOL Music in general, it seems.
― 誤訳侮辱, Friday, 26 April 2013 19:12 (eleven years ago) link
Say I have what I think is a good idea for a profile piece. However, I'm an untrusted scribe. If I pitch the idea to an editor and they like it, wouldn't they just say "yes, good idea" and then commission one of their trusted scribes to write it? Alternatively, should I go ahead and write the piece and then submit it in full? If I do that, though, I wouldn't be able to say to the subject of the profile that I was writing about them for such-and-such a magazine.
― my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Thursday, 2 May 2013 07:40 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.poynter.org/latest-news/mediawire/214774/spin-lets-its-editor-in-chief-go
― markers, Thursday, 30 May 2013 20:50 (eleven years ago) link
Ouch.
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 30 May 2013 22:10 (eleven years ago) link
http://crumbler.tumblr.com/post/87321590093/the-oral-history-of-music-tumblr-2008-2014
― markers, Saturday, 31 May 2014 14:33 (ten years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLKnCeeAW48&feature=kp
― Just nutted on some dude (Whiney G. Weingarten), Saturday, 31 May 2014 16:47 (ten years ago) link
is "music tumblr" something different from regular tumblr? i've never actually tumbld. i've always hated how tumblr looked.
― scott seward, Saturday, 31 May 2014 17:21 (ten years ago) link
if i read someone lamenting the death of music pinterest in 10 years i will know that i have lived too long.
― scott seward, Saturday, 31 May 2014 17:22 (ten years ago) link
This music tumblr---well, this tumblr of pics and links to music---is good-to-great: http://doomandgloomfromthetomb.tumblr.com/
― dow, Saturday, 31 May 2014 22:49 (ten years ago) link
courtesy ilxor's own tylerw.
― dow, Saturday, 31 May 2014 22:50 (ten years ago) link
this is a big deal
― markers, Sunday, 1 June 2014 00:06 (ten years ago) link
okay, i guess it makes sense. like music blog. i guess i'd never heard it used like that. like, in the title of something like that. so people who tumbl probably don't like it when you call their thing a blog, right?
― scott seward, Sunday, 1 June 2014 02:15 (ten years ago) link
I don't know about that, but tumblr occupied (occupies?) some area in between blogs and message boards.
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Sunday, 1 June 2014 05:05 (ten years ago) link
though that was just where the livejournal crew ended up
number of times the phrase "safe space" comes up there is telling i might suggest
― r|t|c, Sunday, 1 June 2014 08:47 (ten years ago) link
"I’m not sure critics are necessary for musical evaluation purposes as much as they used to be. Which is why, when you see music criticism on Tumblr now, you’ll mostly find discussions about feminism or queer representation or other social and cultural concerns. It’s becoming less about the music and more about the discursive implications of performance and image and art. Which is interesting in some conversations, but also obvious. Like, I get talking about Beyoncé’s feminism or Macklemore’s queer activism, but why isn’t anyone mulling over the discursive elements of a One Republic song? We need to get less obvious, I think.” — nervousacid
word
― r|t|c, Sunday, 1 June 2014 08:52 (ten years ago) link
norm is the best dude in that whole cascade of whatever, otm
doomandgloom a stellar music tumblr also otm
― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Sunday, 1 June 2014 14:06 (ten years ago) link
"number of times the phrase "safe space" comes up there is telling i might suggest"
tumblr is a platform with millions of users who belong to many different demographics. this is the equivalent of saying "number of times #tcot comes up on twitter is telling"
― katherine, Sunday, 1 June 2014 16:25 (ten years ago) link
Extended trailer for Ticket To Write, new doc about rock writers in 60s and 70s, with appearances by many of the same. From director of A Box Full of Rocks, The El Cajon Years of Lester Bangs, also linked on this page, with much other Bangsiana, incl. "Let It Blurt." Director overhypes it a bit, but mostly comments by crits in this nice-sized sample(do we get the whole thing if subscribe to his channel? Haven't tried it yet)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQ1isHKPHbA
― dow, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 16:30 (nine years ago) link
Seems like emphasis is on early to mid-70s with less late '70s (but that's just a guess based on the trailer)
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 17:53 (nine years ago) link
Think so, yes. More info when I get it.
Ron Charles @RonCharles 20m20 minutes ago Manhattan, NY
Ellen Willis's daughter Nona accepts #NBCC Criticism prize for ESSENTIAL ELLEN WILLIS.https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B_7so-_UwAA0vyt.jpg:large
― dow, Thursday, 12 March 2015 23:35 (nine years ago) link
One the first, still one of the best.
Posted this on a freelancers thread but maybe its better here:
http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/6707243/music-journalism-usa-today-times-picayune-daily-news
Music coverage at metropolitan dailies has taken a major hit in recent weeks, with writers at several legacy city papers leaving their full-time positions.
Jim Farber announced on Sept. 17 that he had been let go from the New York Daily News, where he had been covering music since 1990, in a round of layoffs that hit the paper's highest-profile talent particularly hard. New Orleans’ Times-Picayune dissolved its music department in a 21 percent budget slice of the paper's content operation. The Advance Publications-owned title laid off music writer Alison Fensterstock and offered her colleague Keith Spera a metro reporting job that would, according to a Facebook post, allow him to "write the occasional music-related news story."
The 2.8-million circulation national daily USA Today, meanwhile, said goodbye to its longtime music writer Brian Mansfield. The Nashville-based 18-year veteran of the paper reveals his next move will take him out of traditional journalism into a new role as content director at public relations firm Shore Fire Media (Bruce Springsteen, Elvis Costello, St. Vincent).
Saw Alison Fensterstock speak at an EMP re New Orleans bounce music and other subjects, and have read her stuff. Its a shame she has been laid off
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 24 September 2015 19:39 (eight years ago) link
"Music Coverage Endangered" in a world where there's like three Noisey posts on the fucking Future/Drake tape
― posts baloney - whine iverson (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 24 September 2015 19:53 (eight years ago) link
obviously great but not surprising -- the thinking is almost certainly "show previews can run in briefs, national music stories can be wire."
fwiw the person who got me into journalism in the first place is still at the paper but again it's more metro/lifestyle
― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Friday, 25 September 2015 05:51 (eight years ago) link
*NOT great. christ. (as if anyone doesn't know my stance on newspaper layoffs by now)
― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Friday, 25 September 2015 05:52 (eight years ago) link
re: writing for free
I've never done it because I generally don't think we should, but do you all make exceptions for, say, a badass publication that covers great shit and all-around rules but exists largely thanks to the efforts of volunteers? (They do sell ads.)
Like I love this magazine - a sort of fringe-ish but substantial publication in a big city - and pitched a story idea and they say no one gets paid for contributions. Which I don't have any reason to NOT believe.
Should I be more skeptical?
― alpine static, Friday, 23 October 2015 22:53 (eight years ago) link
If it's something like ESOPUS or whatever that clearly exists to exist, the do it.
If it's like Brooklyn Mag or the L Magazine or whatever the version of that is in your city, then pass with a quickness
― bricc baby hitlo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 23 October 2015 23:11 (eight years ago) link
Or just go pick any Vice vertical and they'll pay you a little bit more than free!
― bricc baby hitlo (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 23 October 2015 23:13 (eight years ago) link
more the former than the latter, imo
thanks wgw
(xpost)
― alpine static, Friday, 23 October 2015 23:15 (eight years ago) link
Sometimes I wish there were, or had been, a music publication that worked on a similar model to the old Mean Machines mags I used to read: A small, familiar editorial team; not afraid of being ribald or humorous; two-page major album features including 2-3 capsule reviews by different members of staff representing differences of opinion. Could that have worked?
― canoon fooder (dog latin), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 10:44 (eight years ago) link
Mean Machines? gaming zine
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 14:29 (eight years ago) link
yeah from the early 90s. I used to love it when I was a spotty teen. They weren't afraid of making fun of themselves and the content they were covering. I guess Select had a similar sense of humour in its heyday. But yeah, I never knew why it's always been the case that publications and sites depend on the view of just one person when talking about an album for example.
― canoon fooder (dog latin), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 14:31 (eight years ago) link
Down Beat publishes 3-4 reviews a month where 3 different writers cover each album. But that's jazz so nobody knows about it.
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 14:43 (eight years ago) link
http://www.capitalnewyork.com/article/media/2016/01/8587714/grantland-redux-mtv
5 Grantlanders now at MTV Music News website plus Greg Tate and others
From Jess*ca Hopper tweet--Brian Phillips, David Turner, Hazel Cills, Molly Lambert, Amy Nicholson, Meaghan Garvey are @MTV now.
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 17:40 (eight years ago) link
Oh, and Jessica is now editorial director at MTV news! I guess Pitchfork has some job openings now
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 17:44 (eight years ago) link
Have people ever gone to MTV.com for music writing before this? I can't remember ever reading an article there. I just assumed it was there so people could stream whatever episodes of The Challenge or Teen Wolf they'd missed.
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Wednesday, 13 January 2016 18:15 (eight years ago) link
I never have.
So I missed the old news from November 2015 that Hopper was leaving Pitchforkhttp://www.chicagoreader.com/Bleader/archives/2015/11/13/music-critic-and-editor-jessica-hopper-on-her-departure-from-pitchfork
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 18:21 (eight years ago) link
http://www.mtv.com/news/2727414/brother-from-another-planet/
Greg Tate's piece on David Bowie from the site
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 18:24 (eight years ago) link
jessica was the one who let me do the dollar bin column for pitchfork review. haven't heard anything since she left. so i guess i'm not doing it anymore. it was fun while it lasted!
― scott seward, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 18:38 (eight years ago) link
Don't see who her successor there is, listed online...
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 13 January 2016 19:40 (eight years ago) link
serious question? have things ever been worse? obviously the answer is "no, but you've never" but I can't think of a time in the past... 7-8 years or so with a worse ratio of people who want me dead (via twitter and email, sometimes in those words) to people who want me not-dead (via payment for work)
― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Tuesday, 4 April 2017 16:00 (seven years ago) link
I haven't suffered that (thank goodness) but in terms of pitching and getting responses, I can't begin to imagine the floods people are dealing with on all levels. (Heard an anecdotal story that confirms what it must be like on the editorial front.)
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 4 April 2017 16:13 (seven years ago) link
I can't imagine any freelancing situation that could be described as a "flood"
― a self-reinforcing downward spiral of male-centric indie (katherine), Tuesday, 4 April 2017 16:46 (seven years ago) link
In terms of promo mail to sort through on the one end and pitches on the other? If I'm not in a constant flood myself, I don't know what else to call it.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 4 April 2017 16:47 (seven years ago) link
relevant
https://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2017/mar/31/five-things-i-learned-as-guardian-music-editor-rock-music-writing-michael-hann
― mark e, Tuesday, 4 April 2017 17:43 (seven years ago) link